Well, we were told every year WAVO needs to pay $15,000 a year and that was the fund-raising goal, which the station always met. The company would pay the station's other expenses but if they couldn't pay for the music, they would have to go back to talk, which they did in 2018. Billy Graham's organization bought WAVO and its translator and WHVN's translator but not WHVN. WHVN has been on the air since last November, six months after it went off the air, just so it wouldn't have to go off the air permanently, and they've been playing WAVO's music.
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I always forget at least one. While I can't say for sure it was Henry Mancini, I did hear the "Peter Gunn" theme.
Might be the Ray Anthony version who actually had the version that got on the charts. I’ve heard them play that, while I prefer Mancini.
I’ve heard the new owners format plan, don’t know if I can reveal it here so I won’t. Let’s just say I’m in no hurry!
seems I remembering reading WBT stopped Sunday Night Hall of Fame because they didn't want to pay or the show wasn't pulling in enough revenue to pay the music licensing fee. Rockin' Ray was great.
Once again, you'd think someone would find a way to put this online. People keep saying there are formats this good online, but I haven't found anything yet. WERT is pretty much the same if you like rock and roll, which WHVN didn't play much of.
The Standards format was used to keep something on the air and the license warm. I’d love to know how many people were listening and how they found the station. Sure wish someone knew how to make money with the “Standards” format.
The people who like this music wouldn't have known how to find it but I guess word gets around.
63 Big WAYS has some of the same songs but it isn't nearly as good, and the signal is inferior, and non-existent at night. I found it when I pushed a button for Easy 105.9 in Myrtle Beach just before dark, forgetting I had to be east of Concord, but there are other translators there now. And of course a lot of the music is rock and roll.
63 Big WAYS has some of the same songs but it isn't nearly as good, and the signal is inferior, and non-existent at night. I found it when I pushed a button for Easy 105.9 in Myrtle Beach just before dark, forgetting I had to be east of Concord, but there are other translators there now. And of course a lot of the music is rock and roll.
I know people still love what my Dad called 'Good Music'. He played it at WSOC-AM back in the day. I too wish money could be made playing it.
There are some streaming stations worth tuning into...New Standards is one of WNYC's streaming channels. The RatPack channel on Dash Radio is okay. Jazz24 in Seattle is a good straight ahead Jazz channel as is Jazz88 in San Diego.
I am sure you can setup a Pandora channel that would do the trick. SiriusXM has a Sinatra Channel...
If you look you can find it. TuneIn may be in trouble but for now it is a good clearing house for all sorts of radio.
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There are some streaming stations worth tuning into...New Standards is one of WNYC's streaming channels. The RatPack channel on Dash Radio is okay. Jazz24 in Seattle is a good straight ahead Jazz channel as is Jazz88 in San Diego.
I am sure you can setup a Pandora channel that would do the trick. SiriusXM has a Sinatra Channel...
If you look you can find it. TuneIn may be in trouble but for now it is a good clearing house for all sorts of radio.
t123
Music this old isnt really commercially viable unless youve been doing it forever and even then its questionable.. thats why the westwood one adult standards format is more what i call soft adult oldies.
liek standards? buy a staiton, put the format on it or go to pandora
liek standards? buy a staiton, put the format on it or go to pandora
Yes we know must have heard it 100 times from Big A and David E.
The point is there are people out there who have radio, have no interest in Pandora, might not even own a computer or want one. Soft A/C, Standards, and Classic Country are some formats that would have to do better than the typical all sports station.
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Classic country 70s to early 2000's is doing pretty well right now
It's all about if the format can be sold. Sports Talk is a pretty easy sale, so it's easy to bill well. Standards? The average business owner getting ready to retire grew up on rock and identify standards as the music of their parents or even grand parents. And that's selling to the merchant direct. For agency business, older demos are best reached via TV.
A few years back in a small market, I was talking to an owner with a country FM and an AM standards. His FM commanded an $8 rate. The AM standards was 60 cents a spot; 40 cents when purchased in combination with the FM. I know one AM hybrid that is a combination of soft AC from the 60s & 70s plus MOR artists and standards. They were in a small market and billed about $3,200 a month. They had about 45 commercials a week and made most of their money with paid religion, about 7 hours a week. The station was losing money but the two other FMs they owned in towns just out of the county covered the losses. I'm sure some make money but I doubt you'd find many.
A few years back in a small market, I was talking to an owner with a country FM and an AM standards. His FM commanded an $8 rate. The AM standards was 60 cents a spot; 40 cents when purchased in combination with the FM. I know one AM hybrid that is a combination of soft AC from the 60s & 70s plus MOR artists and standards. They were in a small market and billed about $3,200 a month. They had about 45 commercials a week and made most of their money with paid religion, about 7 hours a week. The station was losing money but the two other FMs they owned in towns just out of the county covered the losses. I'm sure some make money but I doubt you'd find many.
That's just not going to do it.
So I tried the new station but I wasn't where I could really hear, so even if I could have understood some words with a superior signal, that's not what I had.
They seemed to be enjoying themselves too much for it to be Christian radio, if that is in fact what Truth Broadcasting is doing.
But then a song was played, and it sounded like Praise and Worship. Pretty bad.
I turned over to the station I discovered after WAVO first changed, 63 Big WAYS. I think there's a thread for it but I'll start here. I heard a few commercials, such as one for a pharmacy where you have your choice of Moderna and Johnson & Johnson, and one for the minor league baseball team in Hickory which is where the station is. Mostly, each hour is sponsored by one advertiser and the owner has three stations and doesn't care about making money.
Here are the songs I heard which I knew, for comparison:
"A Teenager in Love" Dion DiMucci
"Mr. Blue" Fleetwoods
"Shout" Isley Brothers
"I Love How You Love Me" Paris Sisters
"Earth Angel" Penguins
"Sea of Love" Phil Phillips
There was also "Mockingbird" (not Carly Simon and James Taylor) and one song that sounded like the Beach Boys.
And several other songs I just didn't know. One may have had the title "Shine on Me" but it's impossible to find.
They seemed to be enjoying themselves too much for it to be Christian radio, if that is in fact what Truth Broadcasting is doing.
But then a song was played, and it sounded like Praise and Worship. Pretty bad.
I turned over to the station I discovered after WAVO first changed, 63 Big WAYS. I think there's a thread for it but I'll start here. I heard a few commercials, such as one for a pharmacy where you have your choice of Moderna and Johnson & Johnson, and one for the minor league baseball team in Hickory which is where the station is. Mostly, each hour is sponsored by one advertiser and the owner has three stations and doesn't care about making money.
Here are the songs I heard which I knew, for comparison:
"A Teenager in Love" Dion DiMucci
"Mr. Blue" Fleetwoods
"Shout" Isley Brothers
"I Love How You Love Me" Paris Sisters
"Earth Angel" Penguins
"Sea of Love" Phil Phillips
There was also "Mockingbird" (not Carly Simon and James Taylor) and one song that sounded like the Beach Boys.
And several other songs I just didn't know. One may have had the title "Shine on Me" but it's impossible to find.
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Nothing wrong with enjoying yourself in Christian radio nor anything wrong with praise and worship music. The problem with religious radio is frankly being dry and boring as milque toast and preaching to the choir. If you want to attract non practicing religious folks or casual church goers, you take a model like Z88.3 Orlando if youre an all music station.
I'm pretty sure the person who owns WAYS cares about making money or at least not losing money. A blanket statement with no actual knowledge or fact behind it!
If I listen to Christian music, I want to hear Southern gospel with four-part harmony or a choir or soloist with a big church pipe organ or classical orchestra. This sounded more like what is called adult contemporary music on secular radio. Just not a style I can enjoy.
As for the people enjoying themselves, they sounded like they were partying.
Quoting from the first email they sent me:
It is one of 3 stations we own. It is not a money maker. Is it more about keeping alive a time of music that most have forgotten about.
I guarentee its also not losing money...... a single owner cant afford to take a constant hit unless theyre a multi millionaire
Probably. He has a big FM station which mostly plays classic rock.
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