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I presume that back in the Forties when McKeesport was a viable city, 1360 was not too small for it's market. Does anybody see any future for this station? In any format?
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Short answer...no.
In general, a small number of big signals (KD) and stations with major corporate ownership (ESPN 1250) have a chance to compete with FM and play the ratings game for maybe 5-10 years.
Even that isn't a guarantee of success... from your Tampa knowledge, think about how poorly CBS has done with 50,000 watts on 1010 there.
The remaining days of the rest of the AM band will consist of what 1360 is now, brokered and bartered programming, more about selling the time than reaching any particular audience (or for that matter, any audience at all).
And here's another factor.... I work for one of the world's largest electronics manufacturers... the AM, and even FM tuners our engineers are putting into most of our products are getting cheaper (worse) every year. They see no future in radio, and are much more concerned with hitting a price point and including iPod connectivity and streaming capability. Radio's fate might be out of their own hands at some point in the not-so-distant future. For AM, that day has already come.
In general, a small number of big signals (KD) and stations with major corporate ownership (ESPN 1250) have a chance to compete with FM and play the ratings game for maybe 5-10 years.
Even that isn't a guarantee of success... from your Tampa knowledge, think about how poorly CBS has done with 50,000 watts on 1010 there.
The remaining days of the rest of the AM band will consist of what 1360 is now, brokered and bartered programming, more about selling the time than reaching any particular audience (or for that matter, any audience at all).
And here's another factor.... I work for one of the world's largest electronics manufacturers... the AM, and even FM tuners our engineers are putting into most of our products are getting cheaper (worse) every year. They see no future in radio, and are much more concerned with hitting a price point and including iPod connectivity and streaming capability. Radio's fate might be out of their own hands at some point in the not-so-distant future. For AM, that day has already come.
Aside from GE's old "Super Radio" and specialty products like CC Crane, there hasn't been a dime's worth of AM circuitry in most radios in the last 10 years, probably longer.
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I am aware of individuals who think that the new format can bring in the dollars. I think that is absurd. It even failed as a WIXY clone when AM mattered and they had Dick Kemp. Am I right that they are going off all wrong?
To be honest, the only programming to my knowledge that was bringing in money to WPGB (1360) before the format switch to business was Ron Morris. He even lured away their former PD to work for him directly out of radio before launching the change to "Money Talk."
I don't know what's going to happen to 1360, but I'd bet on this: When AM radio is all but dead and gone, and 1360 is running brokered Vietnamese programming, high-speed data streams, or inaudible whistles intended for an audience of dogs, the George Almasi Polka Revue will still be on the air.
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In addition to giving me a great, gut busting laugh- I have to ask-
I once saw where Wisconsin had five polka radio stations. They were the ONLY polka radio stations in the country, but, BY GOLLY- WISCONSIN HAD 'EM!
Where I'm going with this is- has this area ever had a polka radio station? No- I'm not saying WDVE should change their format, or that I would want to listen, but it sounds like something that would have a cult following and, at least in years gone by, I'm sure would have been a good seller.
I once saw where Wisconsin had five polka radio stations. They were the ONLY polka radio stations in the country, but, BY GOLLY- WISCONSIN HAD 'EM!
Where I'm going with this is- has this area ever had a polka radio station? No- I'm not saying WDVE should change their format, or that I would want to listen, but it sounds like something that would have a cult following and, at least in years gone by, I'm sure would have been a good seller.
I don't recall Pittsburgh ever having an all-polka radio station.
620 plays polkas for nine hours on Saturdays, and five hours on Sundays. Those programs get calls from as far away as the Cleveland suburbs and seem to have no trouble getting sponsors. Given the age and ethnicity of the market, I think it might support such a format.
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620 plays polkas for nine hours on Saturdays, and five hours on Sundays. Those programs get calls from as far away as the Cleveland suburbs and seem to have no trouble getting sponsors. Given the age and ethnicity of the market, I think it might support such a format.
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Maybe Tony could flip 1360 to the WAMO AM format.---------Yeah. :'(
cingram said:I don't recall Pittsburgh ever having an all-polka radio station.
620 plays polkas for nine hours on Saturdays, and five hours on Sundays. Those programs get calls from as far away as the Cleveland suburbs and seem to have no trouble getting sponsors. Given the age and ethnicity of the market, I think it might support such a format.
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And 1330 WELW (Merle Polis' last stop) plays polka every afternoon, Saturday mornings and Sunday. They even delay sports programming to get the polka shows in. This area is such a hotbed of polka, it's still on TV every week and the hall of fame is down in Euclid.
Parttimer said:Short answer...no.
In general, a small number of big signals (KD) and stations with major corporate ownership (ESPN 1250) have a chance to compete with FM and play the ratings game for maybe 5-10 years.
Even that isn't a guarantee of success... from your Tampa knowledge, think about how poorly CBS has done with 50,000 watts on 1010 there.
The remaining days of the rest of the AM band will consist of what 1360 is now, brokered and bartered programming, more about selling the time than reaching any particular audience (or for that matter, any audience at all).
And here's another factor.... I work for one of the world's largest electronics manufacturers... the AM, and even FM tuners our engineers are putting into most of our products are getting cheaper (worse) every year. They see no future in radio, and are much more concerned with hitting a price point and including iPod connectivity and streaming capability. Radio's fate might be out of their own hands at some point in the not-so-distant future. For AM, that day has already come.
Let me go the other way, Part.
Today's radios are better equipped to pick up AM than before. I mention this because of the DIGITAL TUNER.
How much I would have loved to have had a digital tuner when trying to listen to the ball game from out of town on AM while growing up.
To take your Tampa reference- let's face it- 1010 isn't really a 50,000 watter the way KDKA is. They turn down the power at night so not to compete with WINS out of New York, I believe, and they also don't have the heritage most stations have.
My God, I think the station's best-known talent ever was "The Fabulous Sports Babe." When that's your legacy, you're doomed to fail no matter what band you're on.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't AM supposed to move into an era when you won't have to power down at night?
I'm not saying in 2020 KQV is going to make a comeback and will knock WDVE out of the top spot. But especially locally, increased power is going to make a major difference.
Some posters on here have been critical of this board for talking so much about AMs- but the fact is that's where the creativity is. You think there's creativity on an FM playing the same 100-300 songs over and over and having voice overs or, at best, DJs that are forced to read liners and nothing else?
There's something to be said for AM- talk/ FM- music. And before you start mentioning 104.7- I would submit to you if KDKA and 104.7 flipped programming, it would be Quinn and Rose, Rush, Hannity, Pirates & Pitt, etc. on 1020 that would absolutely KILL in the ratings book, while the current KDKA lineup would struggle mightily.
Maybe that's why the Obama administration is so gung-ho to try and muzzle talk radio. They see in the future where it can be even more influential than it is now.
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1) It was Ari Fleischer who said Americans need to watch what they say. He didn't work for Obama
2 Bill Maher got pushed to pay TV . Also not under Obama.
3) Comcast moved MSNBC to a higher priced tier last year.
4) FIOS began under Bush.
In all fairness, exactly how is the Obama Administration trying to censor talk radio and TV ? Seems like Rush and Beck can say any outrageous stuff they want with no proof it's true. Obama hates white people is like JFK would take orders from Rome.
2 Bill Maher got pushed to pay TV . Also not under Obama.
3) Comcast moved MSNBC to a higher priced tier last year.
4) FIOS began under Bush.
In all fairness, exactly how is the Obama Administration trying to censor talk radio and TV ? Seems like Rush and Beck can say any outrageous stuff they want with no proof it's true. Obama hates white people is like JFK would take orders from Rome.
MsMusicRadio said:exactly how is the Obama Administration trying to censor talk radio and TV ? Seems like Rush and Beck can say any outrageous stuff they want with no proof it's true. Obama hates white people is like JFK would take orders from Rome.
Ms, I like the cut of your gib. Thanks for your post.
Speaking of increased power. Do you remember when twelve of the 1A clear channel stations petitioned the FCC to increase their power to 750,000 watts. This would have allowed their distance to increase by a factor of almost 4. However, the daytime broadcsters had a fit and were able to prevent it.
Maybe that's why the Obama administration is so gung-ho to try and muzzle talk radio.
This?
This?
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Gee, a totalitarian government sure would want 750,000 watt stations for state propaganda, you betcha! My daughter and her baby sure don't want them.
Those stations could reach Russia. Maybe Putin could rear his head and listen. They are a good idea. Never-mind.
Those stations could reach Russia. Maybe Putin could rear his head and listen. They are a good idea. Never-mind.
Well, Obama has spoken out and tried to defame Hannity and Limbaugh.
One idealogue trying to go after another? Perhaps. But whenever a politician goes after an editorialist he or she doesn't agree with, it never works well.
First, you're just giving the editorialist more attention- making him important. Limbaugh reaches 13.5 million listeners a week- that means more 286.5 million Americans don't listen to him.
So why give him the attention? All you're going to do is give him credibility.
Second, it speaks of trying to silence the press or the media from differing views.
I will refrain from going into right-wing talking points concerning "localism" as I do not wish to get into a lengthy debate about it.
One idealogue trying to go after another? Perhaps. But whenever a politician goes after an editorialist he or she doesn't agree with, it never works well.
First, you're just giving the editorialist more attention- making him important. Limbaugh reaches 13.5 million listeners a week- that means more 286.5 million Americans don't listen to him.
So why give him the attention? All you're going to do is give him credibility.
Second, it speaks of trying to silence the press or the media from differing views.
I will refrain from going into right-wing talking points concerning "localism" as I do not wish to get into a lengthy debate about it.
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