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1560 & 790 Might Have a Chance

When you guys start running your station like pros as opposed to amateurs, which is what is seems like at times, you'll get more run from the press and more money from advertisers. And, I'll wager to say you won't lose that renegade broadcasting moniker you guys are trying to establish.
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I agree with the above statement Adguy. As an example, I was scanning the AM dial and came upon Lance explaining that he was about to play 1 minute worth of audio of an argument between Mel Kiper and Todd McShay about Felix Jones. I really couldn't believe that a "professional" radio station would allow audio from a competing station onto their airwaves. The argument was taken from Mike & Mike in the Morning (ESPN 97.5). No "professional" program director in his/her right mind would have allowed that to air. Am I right? Why give your listeners the opportunity to sample another competitor's product? Their just doesn't seem to be any structure to the topics and way too many tangents for my particular taste. Just one man's opinion.
 
I agree with the above statement Adguy. As an example, I was scanning the AM dial and came upon Lance explaining that he was about to play 1 minute worth of audio of an argument between Mel Kiper and Todd McShay about Felix Jones. I really couldn't believe that a "professional" radio station would allow audio from a competing station onto their airwaves. The argument was taken from Mike & Mike in the Morning (ESPN 97.5). No "professional" program director in his/her right mind would have allowed that to air. Am I right? Why give your listeners the opportunity to sample another competitor's product? Their just doesn't seem to be any structure to the topics and way too many tangents for my particular taste. Just one man's opinion.
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Good point ::). Kind of like when Rush Limbaugh plays a clip from "Meet the Press"? Or when ESPN plays an interview of Terrell Owens recorded by a local station?

Keep up the good work 1560, I enjoy the on air talent. Also, I appreciate the fact that you don't beat us over the head with those horribly painful "Sports flashes" that the other stations run.
 
bigstory12 said:
When you guys start running your station like pros as opposed to amateurs, which is what is seems like at times, you'll get more run from the press and more money from advertisers. And, I'll wager to say you won't lose that renegade broadcasting moniker you guys are trying to establish.
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I agree with the above statement Adguy. As an example, I was scanning the AM dial and came upon Lance explaining that he was about to play 1 minute worth of audio of an argument between Mel Kiper and Todd McShay about Felix Jones. I really couldn't believe that a "professional" radio station would allow audio from a competing station onto their airwaves. The argument was taken from Mike & Mike in the Morning (ESPN 97.5). No "professional" program director in his/her right mind would have allowed that to air. Am I right? Why give your listeners the opportunity to sample another competitor's product? Their just doesn't seem to be any structure to the topics and way too many tangents for my particular taste. Just one man's opinion.
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You sound like 1995. Or 1985. Or 1975. You insult the sports radio listening audience by assuming the rest of the world does not happen. Why give my audience the opportunity to sample? Because I am okay with them sampling it. We are building P1's, not casual listeners. And P1's always come back.

Adguy - You should recommend us. I appreciate your candor and honesty in how you run your business. There is an unlaunched 1560 website that I encourage you to check out. It is 1560.tv and it is our sandbox. It is where we are trying out new stuff. Community-based. Organic. And within the message boards you will find people saying disparaging things about us. Criticisms and the like are there. A "professional" would obviously strike those messages and ban the users. Instead, by letting the community police itself we find that the detractors are ostracized by the loyal listening audience. And when we actively go on air and promote the site it will grow.
 
adguy said:
Actually, I would like to see the information so I could possibly recommend The Game to my clients. They won't look at anything that is not substantiated by a number from an independent survey (ie PPMs). Honestly, I won't either. Two reasons:

(1) I don't take chances because in media that is the same as guessing. When you guess you most likely lose money. I leave that to the amateurs.
(2) I like to assess a value to what I'm buying because most people buying anything want to know what they're getting for their money.

When you guys start running your station like pros as opposed to amateurs, which is what is seems like at times, you'll get more run from the press and more money from advertisers. And, I'll wager to say you won't lose that renegade broadcasting moniker you guys are trying to establish.
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What is this almost obscene fascination with ppm? Do you guys honestly believe in the "accuracy" of ppm. It is rediculous to think that such a small sample could be accurate. Don't you find it odd that initially the minority radio stations complained because they felt that there representation was inaccurate? Soon after almost all of the minorty stations got better "more accurate representation. You guys kill me. ???
 
Hey thegame:

For some reason I have been an on again off again follower of this board...why, I have no idea. What I have come to learn is that 99% of the folks that post on this board are "career radio" people that apparently hate radio. All they do is complain about how bad local radio is, and all would be well with the world if we just went back to the way it was in the "good ol' days." There would appear to be very few people that are just listeners. Probably because we are all logged in at www.1560.tv.

So from someone who is just a listener, keep doing what you're doing. If you like good radio, you listen to 1560...WHO DOESN'T?!
 
I agree with your statement pirsch. Not sure why I read these boards either, but everyone definetly is very negative about just about everything. Keep up the good work 1560.

That video is greatness xX.

justsayin
 
Debbie Brazier was let go and Chance McClain was brought in. I am not sure if he is truelly a replacement.
 
Dragrage said:
What is this almost obscene fascination with ppm? Do you guys honestly believe in the "accuracy" of ppm. It is rediculous to think that such a small sample could be accurate. Don't you find it odd that initially the minority radio stations complained because they felt that there representation was inaccurate? Soon after almost all of the minorty stations got better "more accurate representation. You guys kill me. ???
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Wow... seriously?? The obscene fascination? Uh... how 'bout that its the way that 99% of people that work in radio get paid (excluding those at The Game who get their money off the pure faith of advertisers). I respect your intelligence enough to know that I don't have to completely break down the chess game that is played each day between radio stations and local and national advertisers over ad dollars.

If you follow any discussion at any radio station (that encodes) in the city, most people have questions about PPM and its accuracy but its all we've got for a ratings system right now. There are not many that are completely happy with PPM except for maybe Radio One but please know that all the "minority" stations didn't benefit from that complaining.
 
Just because it's all there is doesn't make it the best . That's like saying living with roaches is the best we can do. It's all we got. Wouldn't that just suck? Almost depressing.
 
Nobody's arguing that it is perfect. Contrary, the PPM is far from, but show me something better that's currently out, in circulation and legitimate. For those that MUST rely on data, PPM is all currently available and ARB does have a long track record of measurement. Again, going on "a hunch" or "trust" is no different that "the check's in the mail" type of reliability. In the absence of anything else, PPM isn't so bad and will get better over time.
 
Some folks make their professional life too formulaic. There is no challenge, fun, worth, or interest in courting a customer that says - "let me see your numbers. OK. I pay X amount for radio stations that perform that way."

I like it our way better.
 
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