60's and 70's Classic Hits with some 50's?

[deltas69]

ringo was released in nov of 64..beatles first hit in jan of 64..so by nov..probably a lot of kids did buy ringo unheard thinking it was beatles related. here in gallatin tn, home of world famous "randy's record shop"..they had two turntables on the counter and when you wanted a record, the ladies would pull it and play it so you could decide if you wanted to buy it..as a 7th grader, a few of us would get to school by 6:30 and take turns playing 45's over the intercom while kids arrived and waited in the lunchroom for class to begin..the original morning bus drive..i distinctly remember playing all those records from 64 and taking requests for chuck and anita, buddy and patty..etc..oh and the contests,,giving away a free popsickle from the cafeteria...there were two of us on the "air" ..so maybe we were the original morning team concept ?? ;D

 

[firepoint525]

Everyone likes to say "google is your friend," well, youtube is my friend!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V7ILiXurQg

 

[deltas69]

i hardly ever go to utube..guess i ought to see whats there more often..noticed it said the song went to #21..but billboard lists it as a #1 hit..humm...wonder if there's a video of the buoys "timothy" ?

 

[deltas69]

wonder if there's a video of the buoys "timothy" ? well..in answer to my own question..for whats it's worth..there is..

 

[muskrat14]

Ringo would go well hand in hand with Jorgen Ingmann's "Apache", Jimmy Dean's "Big Bad John" or even "Tom Dooley" by the Kingston Trio. Great tunes...you just don't hear anymore (early 60's and late 50's).

Gee, I wonder why?

 

[oldies76]

muskrat14 Gee, I wonder why?

Obviously, it's lack of stations providing the hits to 55+ (not the lack of audience). I've been told the reasons a hundred times by the King of Posters here, but I don't necessarily agree with it. And it's not just the hits of 1955 thru 1964, it all the others since then too. Oh Well....

 

[firepoint525]

i hardly ever go to utube..guess i ought to see whats there more often..noticed it said the song went to #21..but billboard lists it as a #1 hit..humm...wonder if there's a video of the buoys "timothy" ?

I saw that, too. Wonder if it was a typo, or a reference to a country chart placing? ???

 

[MusicMaestro]

muskrat14 Gee, I wonder why?

Obviously, it's lack of stations providing the hits to 55+ (not the lack of audience). I've been told the reasons a hundred times by the King of Posters here, but I don't necessarily agree with it. And it's not just the hits of 1955 thru 1964, it all the others since then too. Oh Well....

Look people, just we advance in age doesn't mean we shouldn't have the opportunity to continue to enjoy the music that shaped our lives!(someday you kids will understand that!) If nothing else, exposing the younger people to music that predated their existance will keep the great music from that era alive! I cannot tell you how many times in previous years that I have the opportunity to expose a younger generation to the "Big Band Era" stars & music that they were extremely impressed with the music! Great music is good to hear in ANY YEAR!!!!!

 

[davideduardo]

Look people, just we advance in age doesn't mean we shouldn't have the opportunity to continue to enjoy the music that shaped our lives!(someday you kids will understand that!) If nothing else, exposing the younger people to music that predated their existance will keep the great music from that era alive! I cannot tell you how many times in previous years that I have the opportunity to expose a younger generation to the "Big Band Era" stars & music that they were extremely impressed with the music! Great music is good to hear in ANY YEAR!!!!!

I don't think many people ever acquire a passion for music they did not grow up on. I am of the post-Big Band era, and I can not think of anything more unpleasant than listening to Tommy Dorsey or Gogi Grant or Doris Day or Lester Lanin... except, maybe, hair bands. The more I hear, the less I like it.

"Great Music" is a personal thing. My great music, vallenato and cumbia and salsa, is likely not yours. For the same reason, your great music may suck big time in the view of others.

 

[2MANYHATS]

I host an oldies requrest show five days a week and ,believe it or not, Ringo is requested almost ona daily basis (why, I don't know) Once in awhile I'll pull out my Dr. Demento's greatest Hits cd and play Tha Ballad of Irving.(sometimes someone will even request that one)

 

[oldies76]

DavidEduardo I don't think many people ever acquire a passion for music they did not grow up on. I am of the post-Big Band era, and I can not think of anything more unpleasant than listening to Tommy Dorsey or Gogi Grant or Doris Day or Lester Lanin... except, maybe, hair bands. The more I hear, the less I like it.

"Great Music" is a personal thing. My great music, vallenato and cumbia and salsa, is likely not yours. For the same reason, your great music may suck big time in the view of others.

It may "suck", but like I said 100 times now....you have NO IDEA...what the minds of the countless music fans out there may or may not like...quit interjecting ideas based on what you think and what the vast majority thinks. Everyone has their favorites and I can guarantee you it's far more than YOUR worthless playlist of 300 measly, repetitive, overplayed and boring "hit" songs. All music is timeless and is someone's favorite. Boy, your appreciation of past hits lacks and is evident on some stations these days, like KRTH!

 

[davideduardo]

DavidEduardo I don't think many people ever acquire a passion for music they did not grow up on. I am of the post-Big Band era, and I can not think of anything more unpleasant than listening to Tommy Dorsey or Gogi Grant or Doris Day or Lester Lanin... except, maybe, hair bands. The more I hear, the less I like it.

It may "suck", but like I said 100 times now....you have NO IDEA...what the minds of the countless music fans out there may or may not like...quit interjecting ideas based on what you think and what the vast majority thinks. Everyone has their favorites and I can guarantee you it's far more than YOUR worthless playlist of 300 measly, repetitive, overplayed and boring "hit" songs. All music is timeless and is someone's favorite. Boy, your appreciation of past hits lacks and is evident on some stations these days, like KRTH!

The fact I am trying to get across is that each person has their own tastes. Calling one kind of music great is an opinion... in this case, of yours. It does not match that of all other people, though. And when you try to program for a million or so people as LA stations have to do, you find that there are not that many songs that "everybody" (which really means "everybody who is core to a particular format") likes... so the playlists of all staitons consist of consensus songs, not your iPod.

And each format varies. A hip-hop station may play 100 to 125 songs and any more would kill it. KRTH may play 500 songs. Spanish classic hits KRCD may play 900 songs... each format has a different number of high scoring consensus songs, and we are always looking for as many as the listeners will accept.

As I have told you, I have had the fortune of competing with people who thought they could win with bigger playlists. The last oneI can talk about was beaten by over 10 to 1 in the ratings. I only hope more stations do this, as it makes things easy for me. I know you'd like tons of different songs, but, time after time, the station with the tighter, listener-consulted list wins.

 

[DXMeister]

As much as I wouldn't mind hearing more 50s and 60s music. Dave has a point that is reality. If the agency buys take multiple times to switch over 55+ vs the core demo of 25-54, it does cost more and won't in their view waste their money on trying. They want the spend the least amount with the best results possible. I've read through all 14 pages of this thread, I agree with most of you diehard fans out there about having more selection and such, but we gotta face it. The agency world won't ever see 55+ as a demo to buy in. It started in 2000-2001 when those boomers who are now 62 were 55...and oldies slowly converted to what's now considered classic hits. More to the core demo it'll work in. I personallty like how 101.1 WCBS-FM mixes it up just enough to have it fly. I remember having my mother listen to Golden 101 through the years. Hearing Harry Harrison The Morning Mayor to Dan Ingram, Ron Lundy, Bill Brown and The Brown Bag, Mike Fitzgerald, Bobby Jay, Cousin Bruce on Sunday Nights, Norm N. Nite, Don K. Reed, Dan Taylor, Dandy Dan Daniel and Pat St. John to name the core DJs I heard along with them describing the music from the mid 50s through the 70s. MY father lsitened to 106.7 Lite-FM through the 80s to now...even though now it doesn't sound Lite at all and should move their Classic Lite HD2 channel back to the main signal. As much as I am 26 and in the core demo right now. I do listen to Q104.3, 92.3 K-Rock (wish it had more new rock), 101.9 RXP every so often, 105.5 WDHA out here in Northern NJ, Z-100 doesn't appeal to me like it once used to...was better in the 80s and 90s. 95.5 PLJ used to when they were playing more 80s and early 90s stuff..before they started targeting women. Same for Fresh 102.7 (I still wish it was 102.7 WNEW..I hope it moves from their HD2 signal to the main one and get the call letters back).

Didn't mean to go off on a rant, my point is..my tastes vary across the board and my mp3 collection consists of Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin and the like (thank my grandmother for that) to today's music. I'm sure I'm an anolomy, I know how you guys feel to a point. I just don't see advertisers changing their minds once they're set on this.

 

[oldies76]

DXMeister I'm sure I'm an anolomy, I know how you guys feel to a point. I just don't see advertisers changing their minds once they're set on this.

No anolomy here...just that radio is not set to our tune anymore!! WCBS to an extent though, I'd have to say. They do a very good job on selection, especially on weekends

Same here....my MP3 contains 2900 charted hits since 1955.

 

[rockhitsradio]

I been collecting mp3's! I'm up to 1300 from the 70's and 80's!
I haven't been featuring 50's and 60's tracks, kind of tired of them!
I'm 53 now.

 

[KFodor]

DXMeister I'm sure I'm an anolomy, I know how you guys feel to a point. I just don't see advertisers changing their minds once they're set on this.

No anolomy here...just that radio is not set to our tune anymore!! WCBS to an extent though, I'd have to say. They do a very good job on selection, especially on weekends

Same here....my MP3 contains 2900 charted hits since 1955.

Guess what? You're right! Radio is not set to your tune anymore.

But, radio is not the problem. The advertisers are the problem. Stop blaming radio for what is not its' doing!

Radio has tried to beat this dying horse now for 10 years or more. I know many a radio salesperson who has taken the news articles on the "value of the boomers" straight to clients only to be told, "so...when are you guys gonna add the 80's and 90's so you can get young people to listen?"

So, for the largest part: Beautiful music is almost gone. Adult Standards is going fast. Oldies (in its original form) is right behind it. And Classic Rock/Classic Hits is next. Count on it.

 

[andreajesus]

A great example would be WCBS 101.1 out of NYC. Just an incredible, full & appealing selection of music from mainly the 70's & early 80's, with some 60's and a touch of late 50's. And to top it off, they have music countdowns on Sunday Nights (low listenership), but hey..at least they do it!!

And WCBSFM is a GREAT example of a station that WORKS in terms of the oldies/classic hits format - it did back then and it does ESPECIALLY today...

1) It respects the legacy but it also moves forward (plays a lot of songs that I had NEVER heard the FIRST time around - AND I LOVE IT ALL!)
2) The station plays a LOT of songs that I never thought it would play, but you know what? IT WORKS!!
3) The Sunday Night Top 20 Countdowns are a PERFECT example of my first point - RESPECTING the legacy (countdowns have ALWAYS been such a HUGE part of the station's history....) while moving FORWARD (LOVED the 1983 countdown a couple of weeks ago!)
4) The Sunday Night Radio Greats are another legacy-respecting move - what's good here is that they're getting the guys who were there from the days of "Top 40/Hit Moving/Music Grooving" radio, as I call it (guys like Big Jay Sorensen, Al Bandiero, Harry Nelson) along with the guys that the oldtime fans EXPECT (Max Kinkel, Don K. Reed, Bobby Jay, Ed Baer)...
5) MOST IMPORTANT (at least in my opinion) - they have the RIGHT combination of DJs - the CBSFM vets like Bob Shannon, Dan Taylor, Sue O'Neal, and Pat St. John - along with GREAT people like Rockin' Ron Parker, Broadway Bill Lee, Rick Stacey, "Brooklyn's Own" Joe Causi, Lenny Bloch, Jeff Mazzei - and it's a GOOD THING!!

My point? That it's NOT just the music that makes an Oldies/Classic Hits station work - but the RIGHT combination of personalities as well...CBSFM has found the perfect blend...