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60s on 6 playlist

Right now, (1:26 PM, EST, 7/10/09) "60's on 6" is playing "Itchykoo Park." I think that's about the third time I've heard it this week. What was once considered an "ow wow" nugget is now standard rotation.
Guys...there's 10 years of music to pick from here.
 
storrs19 said:
But then we don't even have a real classic R&B channel that features artists like Big Joe Turner, Lavern Baker and Hank Ballard so I guess it will never happen.
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What a great idea! But of course like all great ideas it'll never see the light of day except in someone's living room on his turntable.


I turned off 60's on 6 right after it got to sounding like my local FM "oldies" stations and those pretty much all sound the same too. Yup the boring repetition is killing me, that's why I went to Satellite radio in the first place
 
I've actually been enjoying the channel more lately since I resubbed than I did before I cancelled due to ad nauseum repetition.
 
scanman1 said:
I've actually been enjoying the channel more lately since I resubbed than I did before I cancelled due to ad nauseum repetition.
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Some songs that hadn't been heard since last winter have been restored to the playlist, but the flip side of that good news is the institution of saturation exposure (three or four plays a day) for hits like "California Dreamin," "Oh, Pretty Woman" and "These Eyes."
 
And the 50's on 5 playlist just keeps getting larger everyday. When the 60's gets boring just flip over to the 50's on 5, or to the 70's on 7, and pretend it's yesterday once more!
 
RadioStarOne said:
And the 50's on 5 playlist just keeps getting larger everyday. When the 60's gets boring just flip over to the 50's on 5, or to the 70's on 7, and pretend it's yesterday once more!
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Both the 50s & 60s channel have improved.
 
I turned on the 60s on 6 this week for the first time in a long time. I had given up on that channel since they were playing what seemed like all Top 10 hits, all songs I knew instantly and had no interest in hearing for the thousandth time.

I'm impressed with whatever changes they have made! They seem to be going deeper, and also playing some songs from the early '60s again.

To those that listen more frequently: Have any of the features returned? I always liked the top 6 countdowns, and wasn't there a Sweet 16 countdown too?

Paul
 
Not much has changed at all. The playlist is indeed a bit deeper but you'll still hear songs 3 or 4 times a week around the same time of day, and sometimes in the same orders they were previously played. The DJ's still have their hands tied, and no "special features" have returned. It's a decent listen as long as you limit yourself to a few minutes a day a couple times a week.
 
I am one of there subscribers who has been unhappy with the 60's channel since the merger. I think many of us have turned more and more to 50's since it plays many 60's tunes right up to 1964. I listen to XM when I'm in the car in the morning and it seems like the same stuff over and over. I'm even tired of many of Phelps "scticks" over and over. Time to try something else. Having said that, I think the morning guy on the 50's is interesting to listen to and spends more time playing the tunes and less time gabbing. To me, that is a good thing. Some of you folks may be able to explain this to me...How does it cost them more to have more songs in rotation? Royality fees? What else comes into play.
 
FRR said:
I am one of there subscribers who has been unhappy with the 60's channel since the merger. I think many of us have turned more and more to 50's since it plays many 60's tunes right up to 1964. I listen to XM when I'm in the car in the morning and it seems like the same stuff over and over. I'm even tired of many of Phelps "scticks" over and over. Time to try something else. Having said that, I think the morning guy on the 50's is interesting to listen to and spends more time playing the tunes and less time gabbing. To me, that is a good thing. Some of you folks may be able to explain this to me...How does it cost them more to have more songs in rotation? Royality fees? What else comes into play.
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Focus groups and other audience research, as well as complaints (largely from Sirius subscribers who prefer all-familiar, all the time) about unfamiliar songs.
 
Unfortunately the focus groups and research are mostly done in the NYC market by a firm hired by Sirius that specializes in consulting New York-based stations. Put some of the consultants in charge of music programming (Steve Blatter for one), and put the brain-numbed New York FM listeners in a focus group and what do you get? The mediocre service we've got now.
 
qunewsguy said:
Unfortunately the focus groups and research are mostly done in the NYC market by a firm hired by Sirius that specializes in consulting New York-based stations. Put some of the consultants in charge of music programming (Steve Blatter for one), and put the brain-numbed New York FM listeners in a focus group and what do you get? The mediocre service we've got now.
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The philosophy at Sirius seems to be "What's good for New York is good for America," forgetting that New York is the No. 1 market strictly because of its population, and that that population's musical preferences are not typical of -- or superior to -- the preferences of the rest of the nation.

Look what happened to the Latin neighborhood after the merger: The only Hispanic music channel on Sirius XM today plays the sort of Hispanic music that's popular in New York City, music that appeals to Puerto Ricans and Dominicans. The channel that programmed Mexican music was killed off; those people don't live in the No. 1 market, so they don't matter to the Karmazins, Greensteins and Blatters who call the shots. Sirius tried to put together an alternative country station, so what did they do? They put rock 'n' roll guy Little Steven in charge of it! A freakin' New Jersey rock dude telling the nation what's good in music from the South and Southwest; yeah, that works. Not.

I'm not saying there isn't some good radio talent making the big bucks in the No. 1 market. There is. But New York FM has been an ultra-safe, slickly produced, dumbed-down, tight-playlisted, steaming heap of you-know-what for years now. Put the people who brought New Yorkers that in charge of a national service and you get what you're hearing now. No wonder listeners are choosing the iPod over this.
 
qunewsguy said:
Unfortunately the focus groups and research are mostly done in the NYC market by a firm hired by Sirius that specializes in consulting New York-based stations. Put some of the consultants in charge of music programming (Steve Blatter for one), and put the brain-numbed New York FM listeners in a focus group and what do you get? The mediocre service we've got now.
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The playlist at WABC was certainly extremely tight, and tighter as the 60s wore on. The playlists on WINS and WMCA were bigger, but WINS dropped Top 40 in 1965 and WMCA, although they sometimes beat WABC in New York City proper, wasn't as big a factor in the suburbs, and dropped Top 40 in 1970.

Not everyone in the focus groups would have grown up in New York, though, so some percentage came from somewhere else. So maybe their opinions about oldies are more formed by WCBS-FM in recent years.

I listened to WABC from 1964-68 and the 60s on 6 playlist often sounds exactly like WABC's.

But I heard Ballad of the Green Berets the other day, a song I figured Sirius had deep-sixed.

Paul
 
RadioStarOne said:
And the 50's on 5 playlist just keeps getting larger everyday. When the 60's gets boring just flip over to the 50's on 5, or to the 70's on 7, and pretend it's yesterday once more!
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My thought too. 50's on 5 was really cookin' this morning! They were playing a lot of songs I like!
 
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