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Why not put 770 on the translator days and the music programming from 620 overnights. That way 94.1 would be music 24/7.
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Not sure what the legalities are on shared translators, but I like the idea. However, Bob can justifiably make more money with his time-brokered shows if he has an FM channel to offer them on.MsMusicRadio said:
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FreddyE1977
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Parttimer said:
Ouch! I don't think that's quite the case. He plays stuff from the mid 50's up through the late 60's, which would put
it square at the upper end of the Baby Boomers (plus some slightly younger people like me who remember hanging out
with older siblings or cousins as a young child, listening to the Groovy Q-vie and WZUM, developing a taste for that music).
Granted I know that the Sales Department is constantly preaching that life ends at 34...
With the exception of a few people on this board, I'd bet Frankie's audience is almost exclusively retirees in the Mon valley.
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Well, I for one know a number of people in Allegheny and Beaver counties (including some in their 20s and 30s) who truly enjoy Frankie Day, know to tune in at 770 AM and appreciate hearing something lively and different. Further evidence is shown by the crowds showing up for sponsored dances as well as the PPM data -- which show cumes on the order of 20,000 and a consistent 0.1 share. Yes, the 0.1 is tiny, but it's consistent and accurate. And all of this is with virtually no promotion on an AM station not licensed to Pittsburgh proper and with no heritage to the frequency.
No, I'm not Frankie, nor am I that regular of a listener. But he deserves his due.
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Well, I for one know a number of people in Allegheny and Beaver counties (including some in their 20s and 30s) who truly enjoy Frankie Day, know to tune in at 770 AM and appreciate hearing something lively and different. Further evidence is shown by the crowds showing up for sponsored dances as well as the PPM data -- which show cumes on the order of 20,000 and a consistent 0.1 share. Yes, the 0.1 is tiny, but it's consistent and accurate. And all of this is with virtually no promotion on an AM station not licensed to Pittsburgh proper and with no heritage to the frequency.
No, I'm not Frankie, nor am I that regular of a listener. But he deserves his due.
GrizzledVet said:
Well, I for one know a number of people in Allegheny and Beaver counties (including some in their 20s and 30s) who truly enjoy Frankie Day, know to tune in at 770 AM and appreciate hearing something lively and different. Further evidence is shown by the crowds showing up for sponsored dances as well as the PPM data -- which show cumes on the order of 20,000 and a consistent 0.1 share. Yes, the 0.1 is tiny, but it's consistent and accurate. And all of this is with virtually no promotion on an AM station not licensed to Pittsburgh proper and with no heritage to the frequency.
No, I'm not Frankie, nor am I that regular of a listener. But he deserves his due.
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You can't tell me the cume can be accurately extrapolated on a 0.1..... Arbitron will say that it can, but a number that small comes from hits on probably 5 meters, maybe fewer. I have nothing against the guy... good for him, really.... but I think this board inflates his success because it's the kind of story a lot of the posters here happen to like.
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FreddyE1977
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I'm just hoping that Tosh.0 guy does not find the dance video on his website...
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keynote9
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I dont understand how anyone on here can say that Frankie Day is a DJ. He buys his own time, he thinks he started certain records in PGH, etc. But instead steals other "Pgh DJs" fine work that was created years ago. He is a no one, useless, there are other things that I can say on here but its just not worth it. I just dont understand.. He is terrible. I look at these postings and I dont understand why everyone thinks he is the god of the oldies. Maybe for the "Frankie Day Fans" that are out there, maybe some of them need to get there head out of there asses and remember who and what started this music in Pittsburgh.
keynote9 said:
I'm gonna play 'devil's advocate' here. There's a lot of difference between a DJ and a bona fide on-air talent. He may be a DJ in the sense that he plays music, perhaps does a few weddings here and there, but does anyone see him on a station where he doesn't have to broker the time, but be hired on as an actual employee?
If you pretty much are interested in doing little more than play the music you and what you think others want to hear, then yeah...you're probably a DJ. Pretty much anyone can be a DJ. True on-air talents are few and far between and that talent pool is diminishing.
kenhawk1160 said:
Not in a million years. He's the kind of guy we used to get tapes from every week and we wouldn't return his calls. He is not a professional air talent.
His enthusiasm and entrepreneurial spirit are separate from his performing talent and are to be commended, he's doing something he loves and maybe making a few bucks doing it.
Personally I find all of these Mon Valley throwbacks unlistenable .
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MsMusicRadio
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Considering that nobody likes Doo-Wop and advertisers hate people over 55, I am amazed at how much is actually played in Pittsburgh. Only WJQB in Spring Hill FL. touches the stuff in Tampa and Tampa is full of codgers and codgettes. I like Frankie Day (cool name) and I listen whenever I am in the Burg. Of course I still drive a 58 Edsel and buy nothing. I still call people cats instead of dudes and I Like Ike.
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FreddyE1977
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if advertisers hate people over 55, why is it that I just can't get away from that
dreadful ad featuring actor Peter Scolari complaining about his E.D. problem?? ???
dreadful ad featuring actor Peter Scolari complaining about his E.D. problem?? ???
FreddyE1977 said:
OMG. I didn't realize that was him. hahahahahaha
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FreddyE1977
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corporateradiosucks said:
sucks to be the less successful half of "Bosom Buddies" eh?
I'm not sure how we got from 620KHB to the man who keeps its sibling 770KFB on the air to the fellow who faded into obscurity after "Newhart" but since we also are mentioning "Mon Valley throwbacks," allow me a couple thoughts.
(1) The Mon Valley still is living in the 1960s, having the oldest demographics in a county, Allegheny, with what is at least the second-oldest demographics in the country (possibly after Dade in Florida). We had seven years of a mayor in the central city, McKeesport, who wanted to "bring it back" and still is trying even though he's now in the state Senate.
(2) In that central city we have the Palisades, which doesn't get its proper due even though there have been more than enough attempts to get people to use that remarkable dance hall.
(3) The Palisades, in turn, still can bring in a crowd, as Terry Lee proved in his series of appearances not so long ago. He well may be a "Mon Valley throwback" but he still knows how to do a show as WLSW listeners find out Thursday nights. (He just couldn't convince WJAS to sell his Sunday show, thus Johnny Angel now is there.)
(4) I would suggest that, without "Mon Valley throwbacks," a lot of radio south and east of Pittsburgh no longer would exist, never mind the passing of an honorary "Mon Valley throwback," WZUM whose final studio location was in West Mifflin.
But what do I know?
(1) The Mon Valley still is living in the 1960s, having the oldest demographics in a county, Allegheny, with what is at least the second-oldest demographics in the country (possibly after Dade in Florida). We had seven years of a mayor in the central city, McKeesport, who wanted to "bring it back" and still is trying even though he's now in the state Senate.
(2) In that central city we have the Palisades, which doesn't get its proper due even though there have been more than enough attempts to get people to use that remarkable dance hall.
(3) The Palisades, in turn, still can bring in a crowd, as Terry Lee proved in his series of appearances not so long ago. He well may be a "Mon Valley throwback" but he still knows how to do a show as WLSW listeners find out Thursday nights. (He just couldn't convince WJAS to sell his Sunday show, thus Johnny Angel now is there.)
(4) I would suggest that, without "Mon Valley throwbacks," a lot of radio south and east of Pittsburgh no longer would exist, never mind the passing of an honorary "Mon Valley throwback," WZUM whose final studio location was in West Mifflin.
But what do I know?
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FreddyE1977
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KeyTimes950 said:
You raise an excellent point. I've talked with people in the Mon Valley who are still sitting around in the
shadow of where the mills used to be, still believing that we can bring it all back and be living in the steel
boom times again. If only we could elect the right politician! :
You raise an excellent point. I've talked with people in the Mon Valley who are still sitting around in the
shadow of where the mills used to be, still believing that we can bring it all back and be living in the steel
boom times again. If only we could elect the right politician! :
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Indeed. It's the same thing I heard in Homestead for years after the U.S. Steel plant there shut down. People kept thinking the mills would return, even after the first stores went up for what now is the Waterfront (one of the very first, interestingly enough, is a McDonald's roughly where my father worked in the old Homestead District Works, God rest his soul).
Sadly, I think it applies to the attitude about radio as well. I don't care if it's AM 770 or AM 810 or FM 103.9, there still is this feeling of "The Way We Were."
Oddly, I think the development of the Waterfront came despite the political leadership of the time in the three Steel Valley boroughs. I think "location, location, location" was most important -- and this location was and is real close to the money in Pittsburgh's Squirrel Hill and Shadyside neighborhoods as well as the colleges of Oakland. But, here I digress again from the original topic.
Frankly, any renaissance in radio south and east of Pittsburgh will take someone who doesn't want to continue to live in the 1960s ... but still doesn't mind living and trying to attract attention to the cities of license that are ignored by any and all who have stations supposedly based there.
keynote9 said:
I'm new to this and just checking out some of the topics on here..find them very interesting. But I can't help but wonder what ax this gentleman has to grind with Mr. Day. If you don't like the guy, his music or his station that''s fine. But the dislike borders on jealousy and out and out hate. He's not "god of the oldies"...just a businessman who has the ability and wherewithal to do something he loves on a small almost insignificant AM radio station. Most of the audience they have likes him. So why not leave it at that? And it doesn't sound like he's "stealing" anything...he always credits other local DJs. Oh well, we must agree to disagree...
tfn35 said:
The "ax this gentleman has to grind with Mr. Day" is very simple. This gentleman knows Porky and TL personally, and he is aware of how they both feel about Mr. Dittig. These two legends put their hearts and careers into radio, and were talented enough to find the greatest music out there and give the public what is known today as Pittsburgh oldies, then someone comes along and, with no talent, takes the music and turns it into a business for himself. He doesn't even know the difference between the Jaggerz and the Jaguars. Just listening to him for 5 minutes (which is all I can stand) I have heard him call himself "the daddio," but he stopped short of finishing the line. He uses the term "Music for Lovers" when he plays the ballads that Terry Lee discovered and made famous on his Music For Young Lovers. I never heard him "credit other local DJs" except to compare himself to them. Then he shouts at the listeners, talking about himself in the third person, and begs for people to send him money. He has always had to buy his own time (as opposed to the real jocks who, even though they may get their own sponsors today, at least were hired for their talent back in the day). The manager of another local station reported that Dittig told him that he was just as good or better than Porky and TL. And he will get some people to believe him, because they are the ones who don't understand why the end of the world didn't happen last Saturday. He doesn't even know the music; he has to have someone in the studio show him what to play. He is profiting off of other's hard work, creativity and talent. And no, we are not going to just "leave it at that." As long as he chooses to be on the radio and make a mockery out of the Pittsburgh oldies, we will say whatever we want about him, because we have that right. However, you are correct about one thing...I am about finished wasting my time on a "small almost insignificant AM radio station" as well as an insignificant wannabe.
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