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64k 100 Slots vs 128k 50 Slots

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DJboutit3

Which server would you rather have they are both the same price

64k 100 slots
128k 50 slots

I am thinking about the 64k server
 
On my WinAmp MP3 player, I have Radio Paradise's two streams bookmarked- 192kbps and 64 kbps and every now and then I will compare the fidelity of each. A sharp audiophile's ears may discern a slight difference, but I don't find it significant. Looks like you're thinking about the right choice.
 
The 64k one.
 
I started my stream almost 2 years ago at 64k and 200 slots. I wasn't happy with the sound quality, so I switched to 128k w/ 100 slots at the same price. It was the smart thing to do. As for streaming in Mono, that might be ok for talk or oldies, but not for music in general. People do notice.
 
64K is the lowest you can do in stereo
 
Yes that is correct
 
I actually enjoy listening to music in mono! But, yeah, you guys are probably right in that most people will notice and not like it. I guess that's why I can hook my computer up to a nice mono amp and listen in mono all I want! :)
 
If the 64Kbps stream was in AAC+ encoded and the 128Kbps was MP3 encoded then their quality would be for the most part the same. Given that, the 64Kbps would be the better deal. The thing to keep in mind is that currently AAC+ encoding is not as widely accepted as MP3 format and your listeners may not have the right player/codec to listen to an AAC+ stream. You'd have to have some understanding of what players the majority of your listeners are using, and see if those support the AAC+ stream. However, if both 64Kbps and 128Kbps streams are to be MP3 encoded, then for my ears (and I don't have perfect hearing) I would pick the 128Kbps in Stereo as I can hear the difference between 64Kbps MP3 and 128Kbps MP3 streams.
 
I'd go with the 128K - and I'd start with less than 100 - why pay for so many when you are beginning. It takes time to build an audience. You can easily add more. Just an e-mail away.

rickity
gulchradio.com
 
I've found generally that switching between 64k Mono, 64k Stereo, 96k Stereo and 128k Stereo MP3 has had no impact on my listening figures. They've remained pretty consistent withe the usual seasonal variations and slow rises either way. Right now I'm 128k MP3 Stereo because I have the bandwidth to do it. I did drop to 96k some time ago, and whilst listener numbers actually rose slightly (I assume less buffering), I did get a real nasty email moaning about the quality. I asked for some contributions to streaming costs and then he went polite and understood.

What does help is being seen as 128k MP3 in directories as people see the higher numbers and assume it's better. I also have a 48k AAC+ stream and see on average only 0.5-1% of my daily listeners using it!
 
SAVE YOUR MONEY!!!!

Don't pay for more slots than you need. As you grow - add more.

64k Stereo sounds great. Keep in mind where our listeners are. Mostly at work.
The 128k might tick off the IT people in the office and get you blocked.

Pay extra close attention to the ripping quality and max out the use of
you plug in's and you will get a great sounding 64k stereo stream.

I use Loud City and tried to stream at 64k (they dont support it) and kept
getting bumped off the server. 64k momo is not a option for my format.
I stream at 96K Stereo (lowest speed the offer in stereo and after fine
tuning the plug in's in sam my 96k sound a lot better than some of the
128k's out there.

Welcome! I wish you good luck!!!


Chris
www.radiookc.com
 
If you do your homework, there are plenty of places that offer 100 slots at 128k for only $20-50 a month
 
LowPayDJ said:
If you do your homework, there are plenty of places that offer 100 slots at 128k for only $20-50 a month
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Remember, you get what you pay for. I could write a book with posts on various forums that lament these deals.!!!! You'll be surprised how many have a great couple of months then all hell breaks lose! Usual problem, the providers oversubscribe the server. You pay for 100 slots but on average only use 20 or so, then one day you get more listeners and so do the others on the server and bang!
 
Even though my streaming server provider has been sold to a bigger company twice in the past year and a half that I've been using them, I still enjoy a cheap rate (100 slots @ 128k for $35 a month)and I have had very few issues. I think their normal rate for new customers is now $50 for that plan, but that's still a good price. You are crazy if you pay much more then that for streaming services. Anyone wants their contact info, just send me a message.
 
radiookc said:
SAVE YOUR MONEY!!!!

I agee with you. 64K is all you need, as far as listeners go. most listen in the office, plus the higher you go in streaming, alot less listeners you'll have even though it does sound better. There is a difference at 128K, but that should be used for your own listening pleasure if you have a successful surround system and apekers. For you basic computer speakers, many potential listeners won't or will have high buffering access to your station if your at 256K or something and will be forced to tune out.


Don't pay for more slots than you need. As you grow - add more.

64k Stereo sounds great. Keep in mind where our listeners are. Mostly at work.
The 128k might tick off the IT people in the office and get you blocked.

Pay extra close attention to the ripping quality and max out the use of
you plug in's and you will get a great sounding 64k stereo stream.

I use Loud City and tried to stream at 64k (they dont support it) and kept
getting bumped off the server. 64k momo is not a option for my format.
I stream at 96K Stereo (lowest speed the offer in stereo and after fine
tuning the plug in's in sam my 96k sound a lot better than some of the
128k's out there.

>>>>I don't understand why people criticize 64K. I've been told it's an artifact decode. I don't understand why people say you should go 32K or 64K in mono.
Sounds fine to me.



Welcome! I wish you good luck!!!


Chris
www.radiookc.com
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I'm sure that any of the people on these boards can hear the difference in streaming rates, but I'll bet that most of your listeners don't have a clue. Most are listening with the speakers that came with their PC which are probably over-priced at $5.00. Sure, some people have better speakers or maybe headphones, but that is the exception, not the rule. None of the usual computer speakers I've ever heard are exactly "audiophile quality," nor are many of the popular ear-bud headphones.

It's your money, but in most situations, I'd go with more listeners and slightly less fidelity. That thought assumes that you are actually providing programming that someone wants to hear.
 
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