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Well, I guess Radio Little Siagon lost their LMA.....I had to drive to Huntsville today...and noticed 880 is simulcasting 1230 Radio Ranchito (sounds better on 880 but then the processing on that xmtr is better than 1230s iirc). Guess Liberman pulled them off....Would be nice if 880 actually PROGRAMMED for Conroe...like it used to when the local family (oh heck brain freeze..I should know their name!) owned it...
 
Owned it and ruined it, the Owens. I was there when it became KIKR after being KMCO AM900. I always found it funny that would sell 106.9 KNRO, in favor of spending all that money on the AM move from 900 to 880. FM was already becoming dominant. They had no foresight at all.
 
CW, I am currently on 880 at 5:00pm and I am listening to what sounds like gospel music. I'm sure that Liberman does not program Gospel. Trying to listen for an ID to make sure this is indeed KJOJ from Conroe, but if it's not, I don't think there are any other stations on 880 here in Texas.
 
My girlfriend is in the cellular business and had a customer who claimed to work for Liberman mention something about a new station in Houston. She told me, knowing I had interest in that kind of thing but I didn't think anything of it. I can't imagine what else is worth programming on that signal besides what was already on it.
 
The only thing you can do with it, is to program it to the area it covers and simulcast it on the internet. Find out what type of programming is needed and make it as local as much as you can. Tell 'em when you get to work in Houston, they're right there on your PC.
 
ILLEGAL, ILLEGAL, ILLEGAL!!!

KJOJ/KQUE simulcast is ID'ing as only KQUE/Houston. Caught it at 8:00. No sign of KJOJ's ID. Shame on you Liberman!
Are your listeners in Conroe not worth your time?
 
Re: ILLEGAL, ILLEGAL, ILLEGAL!!!

purpledevil said:
KJOJ/KQUE simulcast is ID'ing as only KQUE/Houston. Caught it at 8:00. No sign of KJOJ's ID. Shame on you Liberman!
Are your listeners in Conroe not worth your time?

Those listners could be worth more than time, but $$$$.

It's too bad LBI doesn't sell stations, because 880 would be an ideal frequency to sell to someone that was willing to make 880 a live and local station for Montgomery, Walker and Northern Harris Counties. A News - Talk station 5am to 7pm and Adult Standards 7pm to 5am. The News would cover Montgomery County primarily, with the more important stories in Walker and Northern Harris County secondary. The station would have a population of at least 1.5 million in that region. Even if 880 just focused on Conroe, The Woodlands and Spring you would have around 150,000 people in that area, with Conroe 47,415 (2006est), Spring 36,345 (2006est) and The Woodlands 67,725 (2006est). More than ample for AM & PM Drive News Blocks, also a noontime News Block. The other daytime hours have local Talk shows of interest to the region or even certain cities on some days. I chose Adult Standards as the music as it is a format missing in the metro area, but what ever would be the biggest draw should be the format, be it Classic Country or Classical.

The KNRO and KMCO call letters are in use and KCWS (Conroe, Woodlands, Spring) and KCSW are on a Low Power FM's, but the rights to AM could probably be gained. Another possibility is KMHW (Montgomery, Harris, Walker {Counties}) that the Coast Guard is currently using, but will release the call sign.

If whoever bought the station had the assests to build a new array and move it around New Waverly, the station could cover Huntsville at night and still cover Montgomery and northern Harris with an increase of power to 5000 watts. 880 already has a minor lobe to the north of Conroe for about 20 miles.

The station would be a "hit" with the region as it would be the only hometown station, something many stations are going to have to do if they are to become relevant again to listeners. It would be "narrowcasting" since it wouldn't be intended for all of metro Houston, but if 880 just served Conroe, Spring, and The Woodlands, the population of 150,000 would make it the 150th largest city in the US. If they served Montgomery, Walker and Northern Harris Counties with approximately 1.5 million people that would be the 5th largest city in the country. It is a shame that LBI will never do that or give someone else the chance to try the format.

KGBC 1540 Galveston is another station that could be restored to it's former importance if the owners, Siga Broadcasting Corp of Houston, did the same thing for Galveston, Brazoria and Southern Harris County, especially now with their upgrade to 2500 watts daytime. I would think that KGBC could up their nighttime power from 250 watts and cover more than just Galveston at night. It may mean a separate site at night with the antenna array in Northern Galveston County and 2500 watts. The station would start making money again, instead of jumping from one syndicated Spanish or Asian language format every six months and likely losing money.

I wonder what 1380 KRCM will program if they are approved to move to Shenandoah? The station will be a daytimer as the night power and antenna location will not send a signal to any significant amount of people. The 65 watts with a Nighttime Interference Free coverage radius of approximately 1.9 miles is not going to serve many people. The NIF is 15.92mV/m, fairly high and very low power equals very little nighttime coverage. What Sports Network isn't covered?

Mike O
 
Re: ILLEGAL, ILLEGAL, ILLEGAL!!!

purpledevil said:
KJOJ/KQUE simulcast is ID'ing as only KQUE/Houston. Caught it at 8:00. No sign of KJOJ's ID. Shame on you Liberman!
Are your listeners in Conroe not worth your time?
Doesnt surprise me...they were IDing the 98.5/103.3 combo in 2001/2002 as KTJM Port Arthur/KJOJ Freeport-OPPS, they SHOULD have been saying KJOJ-FM!!! But this is usually done by the programming people and they don't know or want to know the rules of the FCC (their "gringo" asst engineer in 2002 got them to correct the IDs by talking with the ops mgr, Gil Garcia who knew him when 107.9 was built for El Dorado...and the PDs were very good to work with...but the then GM was real a**, few people liked him; trying to talk to Lenard is a PITA too...He believes in micromanaging and will not take ideas or info from the lower employees; pity) Maybe a note to the FCC may fix this ID issue..
 
Hey Mike, I'm with you 100% about how cool it would be if 880AM becoming a local station in Conroe, and KGBC returned to its glory days in Galveston.

Look at how well KSHN does in Liberty County and KULP does in Wharton County by doing hyper-local coverage -- I've been told by a reliable source that both of those stations are solid money-makers.

Same goes with KBEC in Waxahachie which barrels into the Metroplex during the day, but maintains its commitment to serving only Waxahachie and Ennis.

Why don't owners who are p***ing away good frequencies realize that there's money to be made serving local, underserved communities that are in the shadow of a metro market...What's it gonna take?
 
dx7 said:
Why don't owners who are p***ing away good frequencies realize that there's money to be made serving local, underserved communities that are in the shadow of a metro market...What's it gonna take?

It is going to take an owner that finally gets fed up with changing formats every six months with syndicated crap and still losing money to either take the "risk" and dive into a format like I proposed for 880 Conroe and 1540 Galveston or sell the station to someone who will.

The problem as we all know too well is programmers are not running the stations, 20 somethings out of college with an Accounting Degree are running the stations. Until someone has the balls to actually take a suburban frequency like 880 Conroe and spend the money and program to the originally intended area and it is a success, which I have no doubt it will be, it will be status quo.

Basically an owner that ignores the bean counters, that are losing them money on many AM stations anyway, to try local broadcasting. Conroe's 880 was not a great frequency for Vietnamese programming to begin with as it has very little signal into Houston at night. Another problem with many Houston AM stations is that they only broker time, not necessarily serving the public.

We can only hope that the owners of the suburban Houston AM's take note of the stations you mentioned and that they can make a profit by spending some money.

Mike O
 
I was involved with the KGBC sale in Galviston and the Owner Siga Broadcasting only knows how to make money of brokerd time and he may not be making crazy money but the station already paid it self so he will keep it that way! 880 i belive could be leased out (the whole 24hrs) but Lib is not cheap no matter how horrible the signal is they will lease it like a Houston station!
 
You know guys, someone that would benefit TRULY from 880 is Roy Henderson. Wouldn't it make since for him to have KJOJ, which actually covers The Woodlands, unlike KTWL, and simulcast Bob on both 105.3 and 880. Just a thought....Knowing Liberman, 880 won't be sold. To update, I guess someone was reading my post about illegal ID's. As of today, the new ID for Radio Ranchito is KQUE/Houston, KJOJ-AM/Conroe. Imagine that! They even added the AM to KJOJ. I would've thought they'd have simulcast KJOJ-FM/AM together as "La Raza", but what do I know? ;D
 
purpledevil said:
You know guys, someone that would benefit TRULY from 880 is Roy Henderson. Wouldn't it make since for him to have KJOJ, which actually covers The Woodlands, unlike KTWL, and simulcast Bob on both 105.3 and 880. Just a thought....Knowing Liberman, 880 won't be sold. To update, I guess someone was reading my post about illegal ID's. As of today, the new ID for Radio Ranchito is KQUE/Houston, KJOJ-AM/Conroe. Imagine that! They even added the AM to KJOJ. I would've thought they'd have simulcast KJOJ-FM/AM together as "La Raza", but what do I know? ;D

Actually, use of KJOJ-AM is illegal...AMs do NOT add the AM suffix...only FMs (remember 93Q and 79Q? KKBQ-FM Pasadena, KKBQ Houston TEXAS was the ID...not KKBQ AM) The callsigns should be changed to match the formats but Liberman wont do that! (De de de!) And Henderson?? He wants a FM (and we know 105.3 will NOT cover The Woodlands no matter how much money he throws at it....aint gonna happen) Forget KJOJ...even though it would be best to cover The Woodlands (it could have its COL changed since there is also 106.9 and 1140 covering Conroe...). The night signal puts as much to the south/Houston at 1KW as the day signal at 10KW does (which is directional NW daytime)..but then the AM stereo gear was still in the rack at 880 last time I saw it....if its still there, would be nice to go stereo on 880 and then it may be good for Henderson...but as you said, Liberman will not sell.

Personally, "I" would change 107.9 to KXOF or something for XO (and 96.9 KIOX to KIXO if possible) and change 98.5/103.3 to KLRZ/KLZA or something similar.....but again, that will NEVER happen with Liberman.
 
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