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89.1

You're all missing the point on separation. The problem is FIRST ADJACENT 88.9 in Tarpon Springs. Thats why 89.1 cant move farther north. As for the translator. Its licensed for OFF AIR pickup of 89.1. Until they are able to receive 89.1 at the translator site, it cant go on the air. The translator license would have to be modified to allow retransmission of 89.7-2.
 
rfrus said:
You're all missing the point on separation. The problem is FIRST ADJACENT 88.9 in Tarpon Springs. Thats why 89.1 cant move farther north. As for the translator. Its licensed for OFF AIR pickup of 89.1. Until they are able to receive 89.1 at the translator site, it cant go on the air. The translator license would have to be modified to allow retransmission of 89.7-2.
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Rfus is right, with it's weak signal where I am, I forgot all about 89.9 in Tarpon Springs.

WSMR is pretty boxed in as far as antenna locations. (much like 98.7 Play)

Which is most likely why the City Island site in Sarasota wasn't considered.
drt
st. petersburg
 
ai4i said:
We do not think you understood our point.

Again, forget about classes (C, C0, C1, C2, etc) below 92 MHz.They mean nothing.
The rules are completely different from the commercial part of the band.
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That is correct. In the 88.1 to 91.9 FM band, stations are assigned, granted and licensed based on whatever power level and antenna height a station may be able to wedge, or shoe-horn in, without causing interference to another station. Ex: if 89.1 can operate at 51kw at 500 feet without causing interference to another station, it will be classified as a C1 simply because it is operating with more that 50kw. This does not, however, automatically allow 89.1 to upgrade to maximum C1 status with 100kw at 981 feet (unless 100kw at 981 feet will work without causing interference to another station) as would be the case in the commercial band where a station is protected to its full class maximum even if said station is operating below said class maximum authorized power levels.
 
I'll stick to the 89.1, WUFT in Gainesville. They got a good stick, probably can pick up in Wesley Chapel on a good evening.... ;D
 
Sometimes WUFT comes in like a local as far south as Temple Terrace, even when the car is in the garage. Hard to see how WSMR can duel with this .
 
vadar said:
I'll stick to the 89.1, WUFT in Gainesville. They got a good stick, probably can pick up in Wesley Chapel on a good evening.... ;D
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For dx'ing purposes, Wesley Chapel could be a battleground between WSMR and WUFT, but if there is a dominant station, it would be WUFT 89.1 with the higher antenna and power.

Listening to WUFT in Wesley Chapel (as opposed to dx'ing) would be less desirable than listening to WJUF at 90.1 (WUFT's repeater for the Nature Coast.)

My second listening post is near the Sumter/Hernando county line and on some radios, the religious repeater (4,000 watts- COL-St. Catherines near the Sumter/Hernando county line) makes 89.1 unlistenable.

drt,
st. petersburg,fl
 
jmtillery said:
ai4i said:
We do not think you understood our point.

Again, forget about classes (C, C0, C1, C2, etc) below 92 MHz. They mean nothing.
The rules are completely different from the commercial part of the band.
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That is correct. In the 88.1 to 91.9 FM band, stations are assigned, granted and licensed based on whatever power level and antenna height a station may be able to wedge, or shoe-horn in, without causing interference to another station. Ex: if 89.1 can operate at 51kw at 500 feet without causing interference to another station, it will be classified as a C1 simply because it is operating with more that 50kw. This does not, however, automatically allow 89.1 to upgrade to maximum C1 status with 100kw at 981 feet (unless 100kw at 981 feet will work without causing interference to another station) as would be the case in the commercial band where a station is protected to its full class maximum even if said station is operating below said class maximum authorized power levels.
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Are you suggesting that the minimum 8Mz. Spacing is irrelevent in the Non-comm?

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
badjef said:
Are you suggesting that the minimum 8Mz. Spacing is irrelevant in the Non-comm?
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Finally figured out that when you say 6MHz or 8MHz, you really mean .6MHz or .8MHz, and no, not @ all, just saying that non-comms are spaced as AM stations are, by contour overlaps and not by mileage between stations with relevant classes of licenses.
 
Would Nov.2011 be a good time to expect them to reach some of the area?
 
89.1 will NEVER have a good signal in Tampa. Compare it with 88.1. 88.1 is running 100kw at 500 ft. They have a stronger signal from near the same location and they have a poor signal in Tampa. 89.1 will be weaker, even at full power. Anyone who thinks 89.1 will be listenable in Tampa is kidding themselves.
 
So this basically will be a Sarasota station and if people want classical on terrestrial radio in Tampa, they would have to hope that some faltering AM outlet might condider it which I presume is ridiculous
 
From yesterday's Bradenton Herald mentioning WSMR 89.1 as well as WMNF:

WUSF Hopes New Antenna to be Installed by Year's End

http://www.bradenton.com/2010/11/11/2729576/wusf-hopes-new-antenna-installed.html

Two comments of my own; of course I think the Bradenton Herald, should have corrected or edited WUSF/WSMR's press release, by saying the current coverage is decent from North Port to Bayshore Gardens (south Bradenton), instead of Sarasota to Tampa.

Second, if WMNF's low power is going to make reception difficult or impossible for Manatee and Sarasota counties, rest assured that the reception will be bad for north Pinellas, most of Pasco and most of Polk county as well.

drt,
st. petersburg
 
rfrus said:
Buy an HD radio and listen to 89.7-2. Thats the thing to do
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Most folks on these boards would rather just bitch.
In Florida alone, an HD radio will provide full time classical music where there otherwise is none in Jacksonville, Orlando, Gainesville, Fort Myers, West Palm Beach, and now the Bay Area. Nothing wrong with that!
 
ai4i said:
rfrus said:
Buy an HD radio and listen to 89.7-2. Thats the thing to do
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Most folks on these boards would rather just bitch.
In Florida alone, an HD radio will provide full time classical music where there otherwise is none in Jacksonville, Orlando, Gainesville, Fort Myers, West Palm Beach, and now the Bay Area. Nothing wrong with that!
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Who sells them at about what price?
 
I bought a Hybrid Digital radio earlier this year at Radio Shack, for under $100. I did have to return it though, because in my location, the digital channels were not locking in as with over the air digital TV, it's an all or nothing proposition. If you are in w/i about 15 miles of Riverview, WUSF's 89.7.2 700 watt digital signal should come in with a relatively stable and usable signal. Otherwise you can experiment with an indoor or outdoor external antenna. (so make sure the model you get has an way to hook up an external antenna.)

Best Buy and Radio Shack both have a limited selection of Hybrid Digital Radios and the prices have come down since even earlier this year, you should be able to get a table top model for somewhere in the $50 - $80 range.

Another alternative is to get an FM transmitter/modulator and rebroadcast the online audio to any radio in your house.

I ended up getting an FM transmitter as the route to go for me and I can re-broadcast anything streaming online within my house and beyond.

Fortunately from my location near downtown St. Petersburg, I can usually receive WSMR 89.1 strong enough to hear them in stereo and even get their RDS display on a good radio. (Sangean PD-R5) on some other radios around the house, WSMR current low power signal is not listenable.

drt
 
drt, what kind of HD radio did you have? I live in Sarasota and can hear 87.9 HD without any problem. Every commercial station and three non-coms in the market run HD now, some even run 3 HD channels. I find myself listening to 105.5-2 or 102.5-2 almost all of the time. Commercial free oldies and rock from the 60-70's. Best Buy has an ipod sized HD portable that works great for $50.
 
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