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89.1

daw said:
It would be funny if they forgot to mention it on HD-2 like they do on HD-1...

I am searching the FCC regs. to see if there is an ID requirement for the HDs. There may not be one - only for the main channel.

But, what provision is there for the elimination of the analogue signal?

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
More importantly, should vocal IDs be necessary now, if a station sends the call sign out 24/7/365 on RBDS and/or HD display?
 
ai4i said:
More importantly, should vocal IDs be necessary now, if a station sends the call sign out 24/7/365 on RBDS and/or HD display?

You ask a very good and thought provoking question.

In addressing that question, one should consider the following: The RBDS display is fine so long as every radio receiver is capable of translating the digital readout to properly identify the station to the listener. However, at the moment, not every receiver has RBDS capabilty, so until each one does, the vocal legal station identification is still necessary. I have some older receivers in my home that does not have RBDS readout capability, so a digital ID only display would not identify the station to me when I'm listening using one of these older receivers.
 
Reception today was the best yet. Totally overode WUFT until I pulled into my garage. sounded totally local at the Brandon Town Center. Arron Copeland rocks
 
Our FCC voluntary compliance inspector and FCC attorney tell us the HD-2 must be identified in voice, just like the main channel, but the HD-1 can use the "FM" id. RDS doesnt count an an id.
 
rfrus said:
Our FCC voluntary compliance inspector and FCC attorney tell us the HD-2 must be identified in voice, just like the main channel,
That must only be in the broadcast band. Public Service has been ID-ing in morse code for years.
but the HD-1 can use the "FM" id. RDS doesnt count an an id.
Not all radios have visual displays capable of RDS.

Then again, not all radios display stereo, either.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
This is an ongoing (will the final chapter ever be written?!)......... the players are USF, ClearChannel, the U.S. Coast Guard, the FCC, Northwestern University and if the signal to the north is too good, the University of Florida could become involved.

So far, it seems to me as ClearChannel is the Knight in Shining Armor (loaning WSMR an aux transmitter and generally assisting WSMR in other ways).

The USF/WSMR website is sparse on technical information; the last update on the new antenna was 22 Dec 2010; whereas they are updating the progress on their new studios several times a week.

At any rate, here is the latest info that the St. Pete Times was able to piece together:

http://www.tampabay.com/features/media/article1148626.ece

drt,
St. Petersburg
 
ai4i said:
More importantly, should vocal IDs be necessary now, if a station sends the call sign out 24/7/365 on RBDS and/or HD display?

If the question is, *are* they necessary now, the answer is yes. (and yes, the digital -HD1/-HD2/-HD3/-HD4 channels must also be IDd verbally and must be IDd as digital. Hence, IDs like "WBBM Chicago and WBBM-HD")

If the question is, *should* they be necessary now, I would concur the answer should be no, as long as the correct callsign is continuously transmitted in RBDS and/or HD-PAD. (similarly, the ID should be "droppable" on TV stations that have their calls in the PSIP, and if the new ADDS scheme is approved for AM, they should be able to ID that way)
 
I read the article in St.Pete Times but I would like to know is where is the Tampa low power signal at 103.9 that WUSF said in September would be the frequency that they would use for the WSMR in Hillsborough County. WUSF reassured everyone back then that 103.9 would blanket the area where 89.1 would not be able to reach. I just would like to know when 103.9 LPFM signal was taken off the table and the weak signal 89.1 from Sarasota was going to be the only signal for WSMR..
 
I am glad that 89.7 HD2 can be heard by all of us with HD Radio's but it's very difficult to understand why 103.9 LPFM which were all told by the end of September would be on the air..That should have been one of things that the St.Pete Times should have had in their story..
 
The FCC approved the CP for 103.9 on the 7th of December 2010; it involves a COL change from Brandon to Tampa, a power increase from 99 watts to 250 (directional with a slight null toward Riverview) and an increased antenna height to approx 315 feet. From what I can piece together, work on the repeater will begin once the finish the 89.1 project.

From the FCC 60 dbu contour map, it looks as though people living north of Hillsborough Ave, east of Dale Mabry and west of U.S. 301 and then north to Lutz and maybe even parts of Wesley Chapel will receive a good signal from 103.9; they must be on the air by July if I'm not mistaken, as part of the CP authorization.

They people in the northern 2/3rd's of Pinellas and the Gulf Beaches north of St. Pete Beach will probably be the big losers and probably not be able to receive either signal decently, the same with most of Pasco, extreme Eastern Hillsborough county as well as Polk county.


drt,
st. petersburg
 
Here is the link to the FCC website on 103.9;

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/fmq?list=0&facid=139236

Actually it's not considered a LPFM, as LPFM's are limited to 100 watts @ 100 feet; the CP for WSMR has to be complete and the station on the air NLT 1201 on the 5th of August 2011, but I think it will be on sooner than that, but I wouldn't expect it on the air before late March or April. (hope I'm wrong and it will be sooner).

Fortunately from where I am in Pinellas 89.1 WSMR is throwing a decent signal right now, of course, if any more tweaking that would improve it in my direction, would be a plus.

drt,
USFSP,
st. petersburg,fl
 
drt said:


drt,
USFSP,
st. petersburg,fl
Did not mean to mislead anyone; I'm in no way related to or employed by USFSP, I meant to put that's approximately where I am (several blocks away from the Bayboro Campus) as to any reception reports. (and that means I'm just as confused about what's going on with WSMR and their repeater as everyone else!)

drt
near USFSP
 
About 2 weeks ago WSMR was coming in so well going north on 75 from Brandon to Temple Terrace I thought they were at full power. Not anymore. Were they testing at full power?
 
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