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91.5 on the air

V.Riley said:
I checked the K-LOVE website, but nothing listed in Columbus, and nothing with 91.5 in Ohio. So, how much does it cost to run a radio station for 5 plus months, when you can't run commercials. Must be eating into someones savings account. ;)

EMF usually updates their websites after they flip a station to their format... so I suspect IF 91.5 goes K-Love we'll hear it before it's seen.

The sticker maybe was for K-Love 91.5 in Louisville, KY.
 
The station is 110% better as of today. Even the sound processing in better. I believe Robb is doing the legal ID's but he seems to have a problem getting it out at the top of the hour.
 
Variety is what everyone has been complaining about lacking on the air here, then someone gives it to us and now we are complaining that the music is unfamiliar... If you don't recognize the song, Google the lyrics. I heard "Woman in Love" by Barbara Streisand while driving down Lane Ave today, that's something you won't hear anywhere else. Some really obscure but cool tunes, and keeping me listening more often than not. The only reason my wife and I tune out is to hear some country...

91.5, keep up the good work! Please don't pull a WINF on us!
 
kevinkelly said:
Variety is what everyone has been complaining about lacking on the air here, then someone gives it to us and now we are complaining that the music is unfamiliar...

I'm also complaining about the lack of personality and creativity! That said, I think the masses dictate that you keep everything sounding mostly familiar. However, I think you can mix in a certain amount obscure tunes in an oldies format as long as the "sound" fits in with the rest of the music. I remember hearing "Six Man Band" by The Association on a 14 KQV aircheck and thinking how great that song sounded even if it didn't go up very high on the charts. I think there are a ton of songs like this that probably would fit the sound of an oldies station even if people don't recognize the tune.

kevinkelly said:
91.5, keep up the good work! Please don't pull a WINF on us!

I must not be the only person who despises Christian radio and they way they abuse the non-commercial spectrum.
 
kevinkelly said:
Variety is what everyone has been complaining about lacking on the air here, then someone gives it to us and now we are complaining that the music is unfamiliar... If you don't recognize the song, Google the lyrics. I heard "Woman in Love" by Barbara Streisand while driving down Lane Ave today, that's something you won't hear anywhere else. Some really obscure but cool tunes, and keeping me listening more often than not. The only reason my wife and I tune out is to hear some country...

91.5, keep up the good work! Please don't pull a WINF on us!

Could not have said it any better!!

He remembers how cool 92X was. I have hundereds of hours of 92X on tape from my childhood I dug out lately, just so I could remember too. It has alot of the same variety, and I hope he keeps it up. The songs I hear on 91.5 are alot of those only on 92X songs.

We shall see!
 
Josh.B said:
He remembers how cool 92X was. I have hundereds of hours of 92X on tape from my childhood I dug out lately, just so I could remember too. It has alot of the same variety, and I hope he keeps it up. The songs I hear on 91.5 are alot of those only on 92X songs.

I know all the business reasons why nobody tries to create a modern-day version of 92-X, but I look at the ratings and, for the life of me, I cant figure out what some throw-away Class-A station like 101.1, 103.1, 107.1, 107.9 or even 105.7 could lose by trying it. It's not like their ratings are setting any records with their current formats ...... could they go any lower?
 
kevinkelly said:
Variety is what everyone has been complaining about lacking on the air here, then someone gives it to us and now we are complaining that the music is unfamiliar.

Dirty_Harry said:
I remember hearing "Six Man Band" by The Association on a 14 KQV aircheck and thinking how great that song sounded even if it didn't go up very high on the charts. I think there are a ton of songs like this that probably would fit the sound of an oldies station even if people don't recognize the tune.

All right, guys, now you're talkin'! Kevin, I think that unfamiliar music is only a problem for some people in 91.5's case because there's no one on the air identifying the songtitle or artist for everybody. Not everyone can or should have to go to work on the Internet to figure those two things out. And Dirty, yeah, "Six Man Band" is a great song, and why stop there with the incredible Association? They had at least seventeen other fantastic tunes that weren't among their six big hits, and that's what WHKC, WODB, WTDA, WYTS, or any of a few other stations could be entertaining us with every day in an unimaginably wonderful way!
Oldies that aren't old, because they haven't been played to death, classic rock that's in a class by itself, and alternative music that was simply a pleasant alternative to all of the disco that surrounded it when it first came out. Wouldn't the Central Ohio music-listening public have a lot more fun with a combination like that than what they've now got instead -- "boring stations playing the same list over and over again with darn little to get excited about," as Inventor989 recently described things in a post?
You're right, Dirty, there's a TON of great songs out there just waiting to be shared with everybody, and the first station that realizes this and goes with them is also going to find itself going straight to the top of our market's ratings and billing charts.
 
jakej said:
You're right, Dirty, there's a TON of great songs out there just waiting to be shared with everybody, and the first station that realizes this and goes with them is also going to find itself going straight to the top of our market's ratings and billing charts.

I would like to see an oldies station programmed on the basis of "sound" as opposed to familiarity. I'm a realist, I know you have to rotate familiar tunes in the mix ......... but the more obscure tunes, provided they have the right sound and tempo, would add some life to the oldies format. Many side-B tunes didn't make it commercially are side-B's for a reason ......... however many others are out there that are gems that should get some more air time.
 
All right, guys, now you're talkin'! Kevin, I think that unfamiliar music is only a problem for some people in 91.5's case because there's no one on the air identifying the songtitle or artist for everybody. Not everyone can or should have to go to work on the Internet to figure those two things out. [/quote]

It's not about a DJ getting on the air and telling me the song title and who sang it - it would still be an unfamiliar song to me. I would've flipped away before the DJ even had the chance to tell me. I flipped to 91.5 this morning and heard nothing that was compelling to me.
 
Todd, if it's an unfamiliar song but you kind of like it and wonder who it's by, aren't you going to hang in there for a minute or two and find that out from a DJ? Or do you just dislike everything that you haven't already heard before, and immediately change stations? And if that's the case, then how did ANYTHING ever get the chance to become familiar music to you?!
 
Re: 91.5 Antenna Info

jtmichaels said:
"For the present, we are broadcasting 80's music as we survey the market to determine how best to serve the radio listeners in central Ohio."

I think this market lacks enough Christian hucksters in the media.
 
jtmichaels said:

That sales article is almost 2 months old. In fact I provided the link myself at some point, although this thread has become so big I could see how that could easily be overlooked.

jtmichaels said:
Enjoy the 80's music while it lasts, folks. Robb has hinted to the media more than once that the 80's music may be only temporary.

"For the present, we are broadcasting 80's music as we survey the market to determine how best to serve the radio listeners in central Ohio."

That's what he's been saying almost since the start. Again, this was discussed earlier in the thread...no surprise there.
 
Dirty_Harry said:
Josh.B said:
He remembers how cool 92X was. I have hundereds of hours of 92X on tape from my childhood I dug out lately, just so I could remember too. It has alot of the same variety, and I hope he keeps it up. The songs I hear on 91.5 are alot of those only on 92X songs.

I know all the business reasons why nobody tries to create a modern-day version of 92-X, but I look at the ratings and, for the life of me, I cant figure out what some throw-away Class-A station like 101.1, 103.1, 107.1, 107.9 or even 105.7 could lose by trying it. It's not like their ratings are setting any records with their current formats ...... could they go any lower?

Harry,

No. The Brew is horrible, and I totally agree. Why not? There is nothing to lose. I hope enough people E-mailed WHKC with those same thoughts. I hope others were listening too. I don't understand why these above mentioned stations program crap and expect everybody to like it. They must think nobody keps the radio on for more than an hour.

Oh well. I am conditioning myself to accept no more "almost 92X" at the beginning of the dial anyway. That is always what happens to a new station in this town.
 
jakej said:
Todd, if it's an unfamiliar song but you kind of like it and wonder who it's by, aren't you going to hang in there for a minute or two and find that out from a DJ? Or do you just dislike everything that you haven't already heard before, and immediately change stations? And if that's the case, then how did ANYTHING ever get the chance to become familiar music to you?!



If the song's not compelling I'm flipping - I don't care who it's by.
 
That's the attitude that corporate radio programs to today... "play my favorite song now, or I'll go somewhere else" ... that's why we have the same 20 songs repeated over and over again. If they only give you 20 to choose from, then your favorite is likely to come up soon, isn't it?

The first radio station I worked for had a gold library of over 1500 songs, and 50 currents. The oldies rotated once every 10 days or so, and the hot rotation currents came up every 6.5 hours. Can you imagine a station playing that much variety today? Oh no, somebody might not recognize two songs in a row and tune out... But wait, our 12+ numbers were always above a 20 share. Wonder how that happened?
 
kevinkelly said:
The first radio station I worked for had a gold library of over 1500 songs, and 50 currents. The oldies rotated once every 10 days or so, and the hot rotation currents came up every 6.5 hours. Can you imagine a station playing that much variety today? Oh no, somebody might not recognize two songs in a row and tune out... But wait, our 12+ numbers were always above a 20 share. Wonder how that happened?
Easy - you were in one of those smaller markets with only a handful of signals, and the competition was playing 1800 songs and 60 currents!


By the way, there are still 20-share stations in a number of places that have relatively few full-market signals; the country stations in the three markets in the eastern half of Tennessee immediately come to mind. And, although I'd have to take a look to be sure, I don't believe a single one of them runs a particularly large library.
 
I have no idea how many songs our competition played, I just know the number 2 station was always at least 10 shares behind us, and the market had between 20 and 30 listenable FM signals, depending on which county you lived in.

It is "conventional wisdom" that you tighten up the playlist to increase your safeness, but there were several examples of southern country stations that did very well with large gold lists, then consultants reduced the size of the library and the audience fatigued of hearing the same songs over and over again. The number one station in Pensacola had a library over 2000 songs at one time. They were up against another 100 kw country in the market, plus WKSJ from Mobile AL. Not exactly hick sticks type competition...

Possibly the best thing 91.5 will contribute to the radio business is getting this discussion raging. My thought is, the more great songs he plays, the better. He plays a lot of songs that haven't been on the air in 20 years. Keep it up!!!
 
Does anyone know where Diane Currington is now? She worked at WFAC back in the 70's & we were good friends but we lost touch when she moved out west. She also used to be called "Coco".
 
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