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93.3 The Bone

Absolutely. In a rotation scheme I had to work with a station we had the old file card system and had the liberty of choosing from the first 4 cards toplay when that catagory came up. WE could play requests as long as the song was not played in 3 hours and we wrote them down. "Gold" (oldies" was used as filler until we got back onto the program clock. It also made it ,believe it or not, easier to back time and when you hit your marks on the second ,it was a source of pride and accomplishment. So you actually worked your shift,instead of a computer working it for you,plus you still had a human element that your listener could relate to,
not a stale liner of the minute.
 
Robert Bass said:
Ummm, well.... If you don't want a specific artist / song to play, then you don't enter it into the music scheduling software. It's that simple. :)

In the day when jocks got to pick whatever song they wanted, from the active library, patterns emerged. Jocks tended to play / overplay their personal favorites from the active list, and ignore the others. It waa essentially biased programming, and listeners typically called in complaints of the same song airing at the same time olf day, and so on.

when configured properly, Music scheduling software removes the bias, and evens the rotations.

R

If you mean the narcissitic and eccentric personal favorites, like egts played on KNON's programs..... then I agree.

But, if you a feel for what a mass audience, that has a real love for music, and not because it's on a hit list, then, you can program groovy music, that more than a sick click gets off on..
 
KPLEXCOMPLEX said:
Absolutely. In a rotation scheme I had to work with a station we had the old file card system and had the liberty of choosing from the first 4 cards toplay when that catagory came up. WE could play requests as long as the song was not played in 3 hours and we wrote them down. "Gold" (oldies" was used as filler until we got back onto the program clock. It also made it ,believe it or not, easier to back time and when you hit your marks on the second ,it was a source of pride and accomplishment. So you actually worked your shift,instead of a computer working it for you,plus you still had a human element that your listener could relate to,
not a stale liner of the minute.

And that's the way it was. We had records instead of the file cards in different slots. Funny how about three of the "first four cards" stayed in front most of the time.
 
TheRover said:
But, if you a feel for what a mass audience, that has a real love for music, and not because it's on a hit list, then, you can program groovy music, that more than a sick click gets off on..

???

Can someone translate this?

R
 
I guess there's no one lined up yet...

>KDBN-FM/Dallas is in search of a new morning show. We’re a music-intensive Classic Rock station looking for creative and energetic people who are compelling, entertaining and can relate to P25-49. Teams welcome. Solos looking for a partner – let’s hear what you’ve got!

If you have an outstanding work ethic, understand what it takes to win, and, most importantly, you have the desire to win in an extremely competitive battle, apply now!

Email your cover letter including salary requirements, resume, aircheck, and anything else that’s relevant to:
[email protected]
 
MikeShannon914 said:
I guess there's no one lined up yet...

>KDBN-FM/Dallas is in search of a new morning show. We’re a music-intensive Classic Rock station looking for creative and energetic people who are compelling, entertaining and can relate to P25-49. Teams welcome. Solos looking for a partner – let’s hear what you’ve got!

If you have an outstanding work ethic, understand what it takes to win, and, most importantly, you have the desire to win in an extremely competitive battle, apply now!

Email your cover letter including salary requirements, resume, aircheck, and anything else that’s relevant to:
[email protected]

Code:

Music Intensive=Cheap Salary

Energy=Looking for young talent.

Cumulus=Cheap
 
Robert Bass said:
TheRover said:
But, if you a feel for what a mass audience, that has a real love for music, and not because it's on a hit list, then, you can program groovy music, that more than a sick click gets off on..

???
Can someone translate this?

Okay, I'll try. As I understand it Rover is saying, "If you build a city on rock and roll, they'll live there. Except the lemmings, who must dwell in corporate sponsored cookie-cutter housing in Drabtown."

Or something like that.
 
jd said:
Robert Bass said:
TheRover said:
But, if you have a feel for what a mass audience that has a real love for music wants, and play music, not because it's on a hit list, then, you can program groovy music, that more than a sick click gets off on..

???
Can someone translate this?

Okay, I'll try. As I understand it Rover is saying, "If you build a city on rock and roll, they'll live there. Except the lemmings, who must dwell in corporate sponsored cookie-cutter housing in Drabtown."

Or something like that.

That's about it..... 8)
 
TheRover said:
jd said:
Robert Bass said:
TheRover said:
But, if you have a feel for what a mass audience that has a real love for music wants, and play music, not because it's on a hit list, then, you can program groovy music, that more than a sick click gets off on..

???
Can someone translate this?

Okay, I'll try. As I understand it Rover is saying, "If you build a city on rock and roll, they'll live there. Except the lemmings, who must dwell in corporate sponsored cookie-cutter housing in Drabtown."

Or something like that.

That's about it..... 8)

We're running into the same problem, AGAIN. Rover, there's no way to define COOL or GROOVY music for the mass audience. As we keep trying to tell you, COOL and GROOVY is subjective.

R
 
TheLaffer said:
Code:

Music Intensive=Cheap Salary
Actually, music intensive is code for 'most know how to STFU"...

Unlike Bo and Jim, who couldn't do a 'quick' break if their lifes depended on it...

I remember a morning show at a past station...the PD kept trying to tell them to be topical/funny/whatever in 4-5 minutes, not 8-10...
 
Robert Bass said:
We're running into the same problem, AGAIN. Rover, there's no way to define COOL or GROOVY music for the mass audience.

R

Sure there is. If Rover likes it it's cool and groovy, If he doesn't, it isn't...

Simple, huh?



(And if Rover knows exactly what music is cool and groovy, I wonder why he's not programming a station or at least doing his own show somewhere...Unless that old saying is true...those that can do. Those that can't, teach, and those that can't teach go into adminsitration. And for those that can't even adminsiter, they sit on teh sidelines and bitch...)
 
little1 said:
Robert Bass said:
We're running into the same problem, AGAIN. Rover, there's no way to define COOL or GROOVY music for the mass audience.

R

Sure there is. If Rover likes it it's cool and groovy, If he doesn't, it isn't...

Simple, huh?



(And if Rover knows exactly what music is cool and groovy, I wonder why he's not programming a station or at least doing his own show somewhere...Unless that old saying is true...those that can do. Those that can't, teach, and those that can't teach go into adminsitration. And for those that can't even adminsiter, they sit on teh sidelines and bitch...)

I said FOR THE MASS AUDIENCE. Rover may like music I, you or any of our neighbors hate, and vice versa.

Therefor what is COOL and GROOVY, is completely subjective.

To put it another way... "One man's trash is another man's treasure".

R
 
Robert Bass said:
little1 said:
Robert Bass said:
We're running into the same problem, AGAIN. Rover, there's no way to define COOL or GROOVY music for the mass audience.

R

Sure there is. If Rover likes it it's cool and groovy, If he doesn't, it isn't...

Simple, huh?



(And if Rover knows exactly what music is cool and groovy, I wonder why he's not programming a station or at least doing his own show somewhere...Unless that old saying is true...those that can do. Those that can't, teach, and those that can't teach go into adminsitration. And for those that can't even adminsiter, they sit on teh sidelines and bitch...)

I said FOR THE MASS AUDIENCE. Rover may like music I, you or any of our neighbors hate, and vice versa.

Therefor what is COOL and GROOVY, is completely subjective.

To put it another way... "One man's trash is another man's treasure".

R

Trash is the key word here.... and the trailer-trash mentality of Classic Rock Radio Programmers is evident in everthing the station/network does.

Some know cool, and others are told what cool is. And that's what CR radio does....
they "tell" there listeners what's cool.

That's how shallow the mass market is that Robert and his kind want to market to.

Go ahead and market.

There's a "silent" majority that loves cool and groovy music, and yet thinks that CR playlists suck. McDonald's would never conede that there's anything better.... then McDonald's..... there sales stats prove it.... Right??? Well you go on and believe what you like based on your stats......

I know in my heart and mind what's crap and what isn't.
All of your stats stacked to the heavens are meaningless to someone who already knows that a Fuddruckers hamburger is better than a McDonalds burger.... and so the same compared to music.... ( for those that need that explained......)
 
TheRover said:
That's how shallow the mass market is that Robert and his kind want to market to.

Now you’re being cynical and presumptuous.

I’m just telling it like it is…

R
 
Robert Bass said:
TheRover said:
That's how shallow the mass market is that Robert and his kind want to market to.

Now you’re being cynical and presumptuous.

I’m just telling it like it is…

R

And I'll tell it like it is.....

In 1973-74.... The "Cool & Groovy" ROCK station, KLBJ-FM 93.3 in Austin played Aerosmith's "Train Kept A Rollin'" (Live Version), but they --did not-- play "Walk This Way". Nor did they play Eri Clapton's commercial hit, "I Shot The Sheriff", which could be heard on jukeboxes at bars. Those frat boys always dine on "the best", now don;t they.

The local FM "Hit" station in 1973-74 played 'Walk This Way", and "I Shot The Sheriff", and they did not play "Train Kept A Rollin'".

Now, the cool and groovy rock stations are gone, and in their place, are "Classic Rock" stations that play mostly hits and a few cool and groovy songs sprinkled in.

This is a downgrade, and it is not an improvement for the lover of cool and groovy music. The biggest demographic was, and still is, the shallow-minded beer-drinking, bar-goers.

What's changed is the total focus on beer drinkers, and the marginalization of those of us that love music, more than beer!

I do not want corporate America deciding what goes on Public radio.
That is way too much cultural influence.

That's how it is, and I do not like it.

Listeners should have the say, and not corporations/advertisers.

But that's the America we live in.

You like it.

I, do not.

That's how it is.
 
TheRover said:
You like it.

I, do not.

That's fine if you don't like it, but don't jump to conclusions about what I actually like / dislike. There are a lot of things about radio today that I do not like.

R
 
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