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94.7 Updates

Jeffrey said:
I hate to beat a dead horse (pardon the pun) but while I agree country is a hugely popular format and appealing to younger demos, those demos are not in New York City. Undoubtedly there is a huge population in the NY suburbs that would love a full market country station, as we can see from PLJ's Facebook page but is it ratings killer? Can it sell on Madison Avenue? I have my doubts but if Cumulus does go country I'm sure they have their reasons why they believe that this time around it will work and/or because of a national network. I'm not optimistic however given the history with country and the forever increasing ethnic demographics of New York and it's suburbs.
I know I sound anti-country. It's clear I'm not a fan so am not rallying around every article and pro-country post in hopes of getting my preferred format on the radio but if it works I'm happy New York will have a more diverse dial. We should be so lucky as to have a radio dial as diverse and with as many stations as Los Angeles but I just don't see songs about church and god with a pop twang as having much appeal to those walking the NYC streets.

I'm not into country music either. I don't hate it, just not into it.

However I think this time around country in NYC MAY have that chance because you have a lot more artists on the mainstream. Now granted, in terms of mainstream, Z-100 may only play Taylor Swift and Lady Antebellum and won't touch other country artists. But I think there could be room here for Dierks Bentley, Jason Aldean, Carrie Underwood, Blake Shelton, Keith Urban, etc on a country formatted station.

It definitely appeals more to the suburban audience but you DO have people in the city "proper" that are into it. Granted, we may not have many country music venues here but for what it's worth, there ARE country fans here and to my knowledge, whatever artists have been performing at MSG have had their venues sold out. So in that case, the demand IS there. Whether that translates to Madison Avenue remains to be seen but this time around I think country can work. For some, the "twang" works :)

The only thing I see as a conflict is the same thing that current based dance fans go through.....today vs. the classics. I would think that whatever country station happens here would be current based and not "old school" such as Merle Haggard, George Strait, George Jones (my father listened to country music when he was alive, that's how I know these artists :) ) and those that like the generation of music that WHN and WKHK had would be upset. Similar in that I think a dance station should be current based and as far as older music, such as freestyle, goes...leave that to 'KTU for their demographics.
 
Jeffrey said:
Barry said:
Today's InsideRadio.com has a very positive article about the country music format's growing appeal to younger listeners. It states among other things, that it is increasing in popularity among the 18-34 demo.
"The format was top five in the demo in nearly two thirds of PPM markets in November."
The piece also mentions that the country audience is less fragmented than many other genres, another big plus. People of various demos are all enjoying the same country artists.

Country Music Striking a Chord With Young People: http://insideradio.com/Article.asp?id=2606264&spid=32060#.UPmJDtgo51s

I hate to beat a dead horse (pardon the pun) but while I agree country is a hugely popular format and appealing to younger demos, those demos are not in New York City. Undoubtedly there is a huge population in the NY suburbs that would love a full market country station, as we can see from PLJ's Facebook page but is it ratings killer? Can it sell on Madison Avenue? I have my doubts but if Cumulus does go country I'm sure they have their reasons why they believe that this time around it will work and/or because of a national network. I'm not optimistic however given the history with country and the forever increasing ethnic demographics of New York and it's suburbs.
I know I sound anti-country. It's clear I'm not a fan so am not rallying around every article and pro-country post in hopes of getting my preferred format on the radio but if it works I'm happy New York will have a more diverse dial. We should be so lucky as to have a radio dial as diverse and with as many stations as Los Angeles but I just don't see songs about church and god with a pop twang as having much appeal to those walking the NYC streets.

I concur. There are more youth driven formats that would do well n the city. Didn't Pulse do well on a limited signal in the city?
 
Jeffrey said:
islndbreze said:
Jeffrey said:
islndbreze said:
I wish people who loved music were in charge but unfortunately it is always numbers and statistic that win in the end and so no real risks are ever taken... Oh well.

I do too but with all the other mediums and online radio stations it really isn't necessary. I like radio because I'm of a certain age and have a history with it but in New York how many 20 year olds identify with radio nowadays? It's a dying animal. You can stream from anywhere nowadays. I can stream from my smart phone to my car radio, etc, etc...

I'm an optimist and I believe deep in my heart that radio will make a comeback... I know locally, after "super-storm" Sandy hit the only thing that really worked were battery operated radios. I didn't lose electric but I didn't have internet, or television, or cell phone service. I depended entirely on radio to find out what was opened and closed and what was going on in the world.


How many people have a battery operated radio nowadays

I do, actually... I also have a few internet radios (the now defunct squeezebox being my favorite) I refuse to pay for radio and I don't want to drain my cell battery streaming it from my phone in the car. I guess mostly I need it for the car but also for places where there is no wi-fi. Besides, who has a portable internet radio that they bring to the park or beach with them even if there were wi-fi in these places? I'm old school about a lot of things... I just finished outfitting my house with rotary dial telephones (that I got on ebay.) And if they weren't so darn expensive I would buy a gramophone in a heartbeat but that's just me.. I love terrestial radio because it has a local flavor and a charm...
 
on it's obscure weak signal at it's best it pulled in a 1.5. Tony would remember better than me.
With EDM/dance being so hot right now, to me that'd make more money. There are certainly alot more cross over dance hits on CHR than country. NOW, Z and KTU are filled with EDM songs in rotation. In fact at times you could think you were listening to a dance station. I always thought NOW might lean that way. I suppose the new dance station out of Boston will show if it's a viable format nowadays but then again who would have thought Boston a dance town?
 
islndbreze said:
Jeffrey said:
islndbreze said:
Jeffrey said:
islndbreze said:
I wish people who loved music were in charge but unfortunately it is always numbers and statistic that win in the end and so no real risks are ever taken... Oh well.

I do too but with all the other mediums and online radio stations it really isn't necessary. I like radio because I'm of a certain age and have a history with it but in New York how many 20 year olds identify with radio nowadays? It's a dying animal. You can stream from anywhere nowadays. I can stream from my smart phone to my car radio, etc, etc...

I'm an optimist and I believe deep in my heart that radio will make a comeback... I know locally, after "super-storm" Sandy hit the only thing that really worked were battery operated radios. I didn't lose electric but I didn't have internet, or television, or cell phone service. I depended entirely on radio to find out what was opened and closed and what was going on in the world.


How many people have a battery operated radio nowadays

I do, actually... I also have a few internet radios (the now defunct squeezebox being my favorite) I refuse to pay for radio and I don't want to drain my cell battery streaming it from my phone in the car. I guess mostly I need it for the car but also for places where there is no wi-fi. Besides, who has a portable internet radio that they bring to the park or beach with them even if there were wi-fi in these places? I'm old school about a lot of things... I just finished outfitting my house with rotary dial telephones (that I got on ebay.) And if they weren't so darn expensive I would buy a gramophone in a heartbeat but that's just me.. I love terrestial radio because it has a local flavor and a charm...

I agree, I love radio w/ local flavor but there's less and less of that now w/ sindication anyway. Also I'd imagine you're not in your 20's. Neither am I and I think if we were we'd be having a whole other conversation.
The point was that it is a dying breed. Maybe not in our lifetimes but 20 years from now imagine what the dial will look like...brokered programming..?? who knows.
 
I think it will go country. Cumulus, in my opinion, is not good at programming rock, but very good at programming Country. I hope it is some form of rock, even if it's AAA like The Peak in Westchester. Q104 is mostly classic rock and leans toward an older demo. While country seems to be getting more popular, I think at this point, a rock station would better serve the population. The last incarnation of WRXP seemed to be embraced by most modern rock fans, but unfortunately, it wasn't on the air long enough to get enough ratings data. Country would probably be easier for them to do. The good thing is, they can always give country a shot and if it fails, have RXP (established brand, maybe easier to sell) as their backup plan.
 
Tony Santiago said:
brlmedia said:
wouldn't that be something Tony? lol. always love your replies to the threads here! always informative, entertaining, and very intelligent!

you will get your dream station soon! wherever it may be!

Thank you! :) To God's ears on that one :)

My thinking is just a shot in the dark buttttttttt one I would wish on somewhere :). Though I still say for the country music fans that if 94.7 does go that way, that you all have been long deserving of it.

Dance/EDM will be here eventually. I think Clear Channel WANTS to do it here pending the Boston numbers on Evolution 101.7. It would probably be at the expense of Power 105.1 should that occur but then again, stranger things have happened.

But what we always have read on this board is that Power 105.1 is there to keep Hot 97 from being on top. Unless a dance station can do that well right now it might not pay off to make such a move for CC.Although,I certainly welcome it.
 
I am not from New York City and Cumulus is free to put any format on 94.7 that they want, but changing the call letters to WRXP just solely to play games with a listener base ( that just had a format they got back taken away from them again after a few months time) , is downright despicable
 
LenoxAve said:
Was anything mentioned on the air about 94.7 this morning with Scott & Todd? I see that neither Facebook page (PLJ or Scott & Todd) has anything about it, which is a departure from the norm over the past few days.
They had their usual banter this morning about letting the listeners decide the format, how their is a pretty even split between modern rock and country, that modern rock was tried twice before and didn't work, to which Todd said "maybe they just didn't do it right"
 
JoeyBagODonuts said:
that modern rock was tried twice before and didn't work, to which Todd said "maybe they just didn't do it right"
They did do it right the 2nd go around. It did not fail. The station was sold for an entirely different purpose. RXP could have had 7.0 rating and it would have flipped to Sports. Merlin needed lump cash now, CBS wanted FAN on FM now. End of story.
 
I hope this is a set up and its modern rock. the WRXP calls are for rock. Country would kill PLJ listeners. I don't understand why CBS never tried Country.
 
Torgo Johnson said:
I am not from New York City and Cumulus is free to put any format on 94.7 that they want, but changing the call letters to WRXP just solely to play games with a listener base ( that just had a format they got back taken away from them again after a few months time) , is downright despicable

I think "despicable" is too strong of a word, but it does seem like they're potentially setting Alternative fans up for disappointment. Before they changed the call letters, I hadn't even thought of Alternative on 94.7 as a strong possibility. I was expecting either Country or CBS Sports Radio, though I think the latter option is out of the question at this point. I'd still be happy for the Country fans if they get their station, but it would be hard for me not to be a little disappointed after having the carrot dangled in front of me. Still, I think it could go either way.

As for Todd's comment, I agree that they didn't do it right the first time around. But I'd say they generally had the right approach the second time (even if the rotations were a little too tight for my liking), and the ratings were picking up quickly. They just didn't give it nearly enough time to develop into a true success.
 
947NashFm.com gives a message that say's "Please come back later". Could be something or could be nothing. Thing's that make you go hummmmm!!
 
Torgo Johnson said:
I am not from New York City and Cumulus is free to put any format on 94.7 that they want, but changing the call letters to WRXP just solely to play games with a listener base ( that just had a format they got back taken away from them again after a few months time) , is downright despicable

I have to agree with you on that... it's cruel and unnecessary....
 
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