94.7's New Calls: WNSH?

[ansky212]

Yea, NYC is REALLY ready for country....

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...r-confederate-flag-earpiece-article-1.1210506

Please. There have been numerous shootings outside the Hot 97 studios over the years and nobody found that offensive. But we're supposed to be worried about a singer's earpiece?? Give me a break.

 

[FightingIrish]

So, maybe with the WGVY calls no longer with the station in Minnesota, this area will get a country trimulcast-WDBY (Kicks 105.5 in NY/CT), WDVY, WGVY? Perhaps The Wolf country simulcast in the Hudson Valley will become part of this? Or WFAS?
Possibilities abound.

That's just coincidence. The WGVX/Y/Z calls are expendable. They're left over from several formats ago, and since the trimulcast has changed formats so many times over the years, they never really bothered with the call signs. Seemed like a good place to park the WNSH calls. If someone, by chance, snags the WGVY calls in the meantime, they'll just change all three call signs to something that goes more with the "Love 105" moniker.

And I am very, very sure that Cumulus has no plans to put country on any of those three signals. They'll get crushed not only by the two big-signalled country stations in the Twin Cities, but also the various rimshots.

 

[Barry]

So, maybe with the WGVY calls no longer with the station in Minnesota, this area will get a country trimulcast-WDBY (Kicks 105.5 in NY/CT), WDVY, WGVY? Perhaps The Wolf country simulcast in the Hudson Valley will become part of this? Or WFAS?
Possibilities abound.

That's just coincidence. The WGVX/Y/Z calls are expendable. They're left over from several formats ago, and since the trimulcast has changed formats so many times over the years, they never really bothered with the call signs. Seemed like a good place to park the WNSH calls. If someone, by chance, snags the WGVY calls in the meantime, they'll just change all three call signs to something that goes more with the "Love 105" moniker.

And I am very, very sure that Cumulus has no plans to put country on any of those three signals. They'll get crushed not only by the two big-signalled country stations in the Twin Cities, but also the various rimshots.

I believe you misunderstood my post. I was speculating that the WGVY call may be used in conjunction with WDVY and WDBY for a country trimulcast in the Hudson Valley, as WDBY is already a country station. I did not say anything about the 3 linked stations in Minnesota switching to country music.
With regard to another post above referencing a NY Daily News article about a country star's earring, here is a link to a more relevant article from the same paper about the popularity of country music in NYC, and the lack of a country station.

New Yorkers spend $$ on Country Music Records and Concerts: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...r-swift-find-fans-big-apple-article-1.1131775

 

[FightingIrish]

So, maybe with the WGVY calls no longer with the station in Minnesota, this area will get a country trimulcast-WDBY (Kicks 105.5 in NY/CT), WDVY, WGVY? Perhaps The Wolf country simulcast in the Hudson Valley will become part of this? Or WFAS?
Possibilities abound.

That's just coincidence. The WGVX/Y/Z calls are expendable. They're left over from several formats ago, and since the trimulcast has changed formats so many times over the years, they never really bothered with the call signs. Seemed like a good place to park the WNSH calls. If someone, by chance, snags the WGVY calls in the meantime, they'll just change all three call signs to something that goes more with the "Love 105" moniker.

And I am very, very sure that Cumulus has no plans to put country on any of those three signals. They'll get crushed not only by the two big-signalled country stations in the Twin Cities, but also the various rimshots.

I believe you misunderstood my post. I was speculating that the WGVY call may be used in conjunction with WDVY and WDBY for a country trimulcast in the Hudson Valley, as WDBY is already a country station. I did not say anything about the 3 linked stations in Minnesota switching to country music.
With regard to another post above referencing a NY Daily News article about a country star's earring, here is a link to a more relevant article from the same paper about the popularity of country music in NYC, and the lack of a country station.

New Yorkers spend $$ on Country Music Records and Concerts: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...r-swift-find-fans-big-apple-article-1.1131775

I'm guessing that the WGVY calls will return to Cambridge once WNSH settles. If they're claimed, they'll change the calls of all three 105s, if they deem it necessary. And the fact that the call sign is WGVY is mere coincidence, going back to when ABC owned it.

 

[Jeffrey]

I know we've beat this dead horse here beyond belief but as the debate goes on I wanted to add some thoughts to the pro country jist of the article.
It stands to reason that country acts would find lot's of fans at concerts in New York because of the 22 million that inhabit the metro area. Furthermore, out of market stations like WWYZ promote and give away tickets to shows in New York. Many country friendly areas border New York like Philadelphia, Allentown, etc...all within an easy drive. How many in the audience are from New York?

Also it's been next to impossible to buy a cd in New York for over a year now with the closing of all cd stores so not sure where these stats are coming from.
The last cd store to close was Virgin in Times Square, an area filled with primarily tourists..

I live in New York and have for most of my life. I don't know any country fans and while you can certainly count on finding some Texas transplant living in the big city I seriously doubt that all this mass country appeal, sales and filled concert venues come from actual New Yorkers.

 

[ansky212]

I live in New York and have for most of my life. I don't know any country fans and while you can certainly count on finding some Texas transplant living in the big city I seriously doubt that all this mass country appeal, sales and filled concert venues come from actual New Yorkers.

It's a Catch-22. The reason there are few country fans is likely because there is no country radio station, thus people have very little exposure to the music.

 

[Seltzer]

I live in New York and have for most of my life. I don't know any country fans and while you can certainly count on finding some Texas transplant living in the big city I seriously doubt that all this mass country appeal, sales and filled concert venues come from actual New Yorkers.

It's a Catch-22. The reason there are few country fans is likely because there is no country radio station, thus people have very little exposure to the music.

New Yorkers do not attend country shows. Show tickets are sold to suburbanites.

 

[Barry]

I this region, country's popularity is probably greatest in the suburban areas.
Nothing wrong with that. Cumulus owned WPLJ's main appeal is in the suburbs. It bills very well.
That could be one of the reasons why there is speculation that Cumulus may put a country format on 94.7. It has a solid signal in the NJ suburbs and much of Rockland County. Thunder Country in NJ has been at or near the top of the ratings in its area for quite a while.

 

[ansky212]

I live in New York and have for most of my life. I don't know any country fans and while you can certainly count on finding some Texas transplant living in the big city I seriously doubt that all this mass country appeal, sales and filled concert venues come from actual New Yorkers.

It's a Catch-22. The reason there are few country fans is likely because there is no country radio station, thus people have very little exposure to the music.

New Yorkers do not attend country shows. Show tickets are sold to suburbanites.

What's your point? I'd be willing to bet most of WXTU's listeners live in the suburbs of Philly. I'll bet most of WWYZ's listeners live in the suburbs of Hartford. Both of these stations are successful and obviously make money or they wouldn't be on the air.

 

[MoldaMania182]

I live in New York and have for most of my life. I don't know any country fans and while you can certainly count on finding some Texas transplant living in the big city I seriously doubt that all this mass country appeal, sales and filled concert venues come from actual New Yorkers.

It's a Catch-22. The reason there are few country fans is likely because there is no country radio station, thus people have very little exposure to the music.

New Yorkers do not attend country shows. Show tickets are sold to suburbanites.

What's your point? I'd be willing to bet most of WXTU's listeners live in the suburbs of Philly. I'll bet most of WWYZ's listeners live in the suburbs of Hartford. Both of these stations are successful and obviously make money or they wouldn't be on the air.

Philly is not NY. XTU's audience while mostly in suburbs also works as Philly is way way more of a blue collar town than NY. Also saying there's no country fans because there's no station is the silliest thing I've heard. As if there isn't CMT on TV, concerts swinging through, countless digital ways to listen to country, mass exposure on all 3000
and counting competition shows etc etc.

I this region, country's popularity is probably greatest in the suburban areas.
Nothing wrong with that. Cumulus owned WPLJ's main appeal is in the suburbs. It bills very well.
That could be one of the reasons why there is speculation that Cumulus may put a country format on 94.7. It has a solid signal in the NJ suburbs and much of Rockland County. Thunder Country in NJ has been at or near the top of the ratings in its area for quite a while.

How does Thunder really bill? That's been the key to everything. Cumulus can garner all the ratings it wants on 94.7, if it doesn't make money it won't last.

 

[ansky212]

Philly is not NY. XTU's audience while mostly in suburbs also works as Philly is way way more of a blue collar town than NY.

With the exception of the Manhattan elite, the other 4 boroughs are about as blue collar as any town can get (particularly Queens, Staten Island, and the Bronx). I'm not following your logic on this one...

 

[MoldaMania182]

Philly is not NY. XTU's audience while mostly in suburbs also works as Philly is way way more of a blue collar town than NY.

With the exception of the Manhattan elite, the other 4 boroughs are about as blue collar as any town can get (particularly Queens, Staten Island, and the Bronx). I'm not following your logic on this one...

Perhaps you should visit Philly a little closer next time, or reexamine how you see NYC. That's I'll explain on here. And if you really feel they are so much alike, I guess NYC should also have 3 successful rock stations, no ethnic stations, but I digress.

 

[reelyreal]

I think a lot of people speak about NYC thinking that the entire market is Midtown Manhattan. We're talking about an incredibly diverse population over a sizable geographic area. Every city is unique, yes, but there are similarities between many east coast cities.

 

[Jeffrey]

I this region, country's popularity is probably greatest in the suburban areas.
Nothing wrong with that. Cumulus owned WPLJ's main appeal is in the suburbs. It bills very well.
That could be one of the reasons why there is speculation that Cumulus may put a country format on 94.7. It has a solid signal in the NJ suburbs and much of Rockland County. Thunder Country in NJ has been at or near the top of the ratings in its area for quite a while.

If country were to make a go of it in market no. 1, 94.7 would certainly be the logical frequency to put it on. As Cumulus however I would be concerned about programming what is a niche format in New York on a frequency that virtually no one is familiar with due the endless years of Family Radio owning the frequency. Additionally I would also think that as 94.7 has it's strongest signal west of the city in northern NJ, just to the north of the successful Thunder 106.3-106.5 of central and southern NJ, that too much competition in that area might scare them off. 94.7 also serves an extremely urban area of NJ just outside of New York.

There are alot of formats I'd like to see on the radio in New York but no one wants to take the chance of programming something risky...I wouldn't and with smart phones and internet radio why would you? I can stream my custom tailored own Pandora stations via bluetooth on my car's media center or in my home on my Tivoli blue tooth radio. Honestly as sad as it is there's very little use for music radio nowadays.

 

[secondchoice]

I can stream my custom tailored own Pandora stations via bluetooth on my car's media center or in my home on my Tivoli blue tooth radio. Honestly as sad as it is there's very little use for music radio nowadays.

I hope you have another plan for music in 2014, Pandora will have run out of shareholders money by then at their current rate of cash burn.

http://data.cnbc.com/quotes/P/tab/7

 

[reelyreal]

The hope is that the Internet Radio Fairness Act goes somewhere to make internet broadcasting something that can actually be viable. At the same time, there's a lot of talk about the Performance Fee coming up in these debates. These should be watched very intently.

 

[luperm]

Your biased stereotypes of country music fans are no more useful than the ones I could point out about dance and rock fans. But that's not really constructive, is it?

 

[LenoxAve]

Your biased stereotypes of country music fans are no more useful than the ones I could point out about dance and rock fans. But that's not really constructive, is it?

I completely agree. However, some advertisers are just as closed-minded and biased.

Ten years ago, I couldn't stand country music. Now, however, it is one of my favorite formats, and I am far from the "stereotypical country fan" misconception. I'm sure there are others who could say the same, although I'm unsure as to how much radio executives or advertisers see that.

 

[ansky212]

Ten years ago, I couldn't stand country music. Now, however, it is one of my favorite formats, and I am far from the "stereotypical country fan" misconception. I'm sure there are others who could say the same, although I'm unsure as to how much radio executives or advertisers see that.

Same thing with me. I started listening to country back in 2005. I was working in central NJ and hit the scan button on my car radio. It picked up Cat Country 96.1 from Allentown and they were playing Mud on the Tires by Brad Paisley. Really liked it.

 

[LenoxAve]

Ten years ago, I couldn't stand country music. Now, however, it is one of my favorite formats, and I am far from the "stereotypical country fan" misconception. I'm sure there are others who could say the same, although I'm unsure as to how much radio executives or advertisers see that.

Same thing with me. I started listening to country back in 2005. I was working in central NJ and hit the scan button on my car radio. It picked up Cat Country 96.1 from Allentown and they were playing Mud on the Tires by Brad Paisley. Really liked it.

It was around the same time for me, around '05 or '06, just around the time when Lady Antebellum burst on the scene. Cat Country (in AC and Allentown) and WXTU from Philadelphia are great stations. IMHO, Thunder in New Jersey sounds very unfocused and too twangy. I've heard more mainstream stations in the Virginia mountains!

A more pop-driven format would be more suitable if 94.7 were to try it. It would likely take a lot of listeners from Thunder in areas where the coverage overlaps.