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94.7's New Calls: WNSH?

I admire Thunder Country. They are not a cookie cutter country station. They break the commercial radio common wisdom by playing lesser known songs, and have a rather upbeat sound. I enjoy their in your face Rockin' Country imaging. It fits NJ.
And Thunder is number one in their market, Monmouth-Ocean. They are apparently pleasing their listeners, and standing out from competing stations in Atlantic City and Philadelphia.
But if they were located in the New York City market, where people tend too be less familiar with country music, I would expect they would be playing just the big hits and use a more A/C presentation. I believe that part of country music's success in large northeastern cities such as Boston is that many people listen to it as a change of pace from the a/c format. Most mainstream country does not sound all that different from it.
I think there is not that much overlap between the signals of Thunder, and WFME. So they probably would not be direct competitors.
But of course, even if country would make sense for 94.7, a huge broadcaster such as Cumulus may have a different agenda for the frequency.
 
As Cumulus however I would be concerned about programming what is a niche format in New York on a frequency that virtually no one is familiar with due the endless years of Family Radio owning the frequency.
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I wouldn't be concerned at all. Country fans found Y-107 at the time and more recently found 106.3 despite years of that frequency having rock-based formats. If 94.7 were to become a country station, that news would spread by email, texts, Twitter and Facebook - as well as radio message boards - very quickly. Cumulus wouldn't have to spend a dime. (In fact, the news would spread about as quickly as mere rumors of other frequencies supposedly going country did all these years.)

I'm still skeptical. Broadcasters have gone out of their way not to put country on a New York area frequency, even to the point of inventing new formats (like "Blink 102.7"). Sports radio on FM is merely the latest method.
 
Barry said:
I admire Thunder Country. They are not a cookie cutter country station. They break the commercial radio common wisdom by playing lesser known songs, and have a rather upbeat sound. I enjoy their in your face Rockin' Country imaging. It fits NJ.
And Thunder is number one in their market, Monmouth-Ocean. They are apparently pleasing their listeners, and standing out from competing stations in Atlantic City and Philadelphia.
But if they were located in the New York City market, where people tend too be less familiar with country music, I would expect they would be playing just the big hits and use a more A/C presentation. I believe that part of country music's success in large northeastern cities such as Boston is that many people listen to it as a change of pace from the a/c format. Most mainstream country does not sound all that different from it.
I think there is not that much overlap between the signals of Thunder, and WFME. So they probably would not be direct competitors.
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There is a huge overlap with the 106.3 frequency! Because of 106.3 short-spaced, everywhere you can hear 106.3, you can hear 94.7 - and well!

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
badjef said:
There is a huge overlap with the 106.3 frequency! Because of 106.3 short-spaced, everywhere you can hear 106.3, you can hear 94.7 - and well!

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
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Totally agree! And I maintain that Thunder does well in Monmouth-Ocean solely because it is the only country station that covers most of the area, so it can be whatever it wants. Put in a mainstream country station like XTU or WPUR on a signal that reaches the same audience as Thunder, and I truly believe people would leave Thunder in a heartbeat. It's a rock station that happens to play country music.
 
NJMark said:
I wouldn't be concerned at all. Country fans found Y-107 at the time and more recently found 106.3 despite years of that frequency having rock-based formats. If 94.7 were to become a country station, that news would spread by email, texts, Twitter and Facebook - as well as radio message boards - very quickly. Cumulus wouldn't have to spend a dime. (In fact, the news would spread about as quickly as mere rumors of other frequencies supposedly going country did all these years.)
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That's how we, the dance music community, did with with Pulse 87! :)

And it was a LOT worse for us because the station was in an unfamiliar dial position (87.7) that certain car stereos didn't even have on their dial with a weaker antenna than 94.7 has. And I would think Cumulus has a lot more financial resources than Mega Media Group ever did. Believe me, you country music fans will be ALL RIGHT!

To that, I also wish all of you country fans the best of luck. :) As bad as it's been for the dance music community, it's been MUCH worse for country fans since Y-107 left. You fans have been LONG DESERVING of this :).
 
Tony Santiago said:
NJMark said:
I wouldn't be concerned at all. Country fans found Y-107 at the time and more recently found 106.3 despite years of that frequency having rock-based formats. If 94.7 were to become a country station, that news would spread by email, texts, Twitter and Facebook - as well as radio message boards - very quickly. Cumulus wouldn't have to spend a dime. (In fact, the news would spread about as quickly as mere rumors of other frequencies supposedly going country did all these years.)
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That's how we, the dance music community, did with with Pulse 87! :)

And it was a LOT worse for us because the station was in an unfamiliar dial position (87.7) that certain car stereos didn't even have on their dial with a weaker antenna than 94.7 has. And I would think Cumulus has a lot more financial resources than Mega Media Group ever did. Believe me, you country music fans will be ALL RIGHT!

To that, I also wish all of you country fans the best of luck. :) As bad as it's been for the dance music community, it's been MUCH worse for country fans since Y-107 left. You fans have been LONG DESERVING of this :).
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The 87.7 frequency has a nice range. It has the advantage of not being short-spaced.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
badjef said:
Tony Santiago said:
NJMark said:
I wouldn't be concerned at all. Country fans found Y-107 at the time and more recently found 106.3 despite years of that frequency having rock-based formats. If 94.7 were to become a country station, that news would spread by email, texts, Twitter and Facebook - as well as radio message boards - very quickly. Cumulus wouldn't have to spend a dime. (In fact, the news would spread about as quickly as mere rumors of other frequencies supposedly going country did all these years.)
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That's how we, the dance music community, did with with Pulse 87! :)

And it was a LOT worse for us because the station was in an unfamiliar dial position (87.7) that certain car stereos didn't even have on their dial with a weaker antenna than 94.7 has. And I would think Cumulus has a lot more financial resources than Mega Media Group ever did. Believe me, you country music fans will be ALL RIGHT!

To that, I also wish all of you country fans the best of luck. :) As bad as it's been for the dance music community, it's been MUCH worse for country fans since Y-107 left. You fans have been LONG DESERVING of this :).
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The 87.7 frequency has a nice range. It has the advantage of not being short-spaced.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
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Only if you're ignoring PVI in Philly who's a digital blowtorch in the space, the plethora of pirates on 87.9, the few stations on 88.1...
 
thataveragejoe said:
badjef said:
Tony Santiago said:
NJMark said:
I wouldn't be concerned at all. Country fans found Y-107 at the time and more recently found 106.3 despite years of that frequency having rock-based formats. If 94.7 were to become a country station, that news would spread by email, texts, Twitter and Facebook - as well as radio message boards - very quickly. Cumulus wouldn't have to spend a dime. (In fact, the news would spread about as quickly as mere rumors of other frequencies supposedly going country did all these years.)
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That's how we, the dance music community, did with with Pulse 87! :)

And it was a LOT worse for us because the station was in an unfamiliar dial position (87.7) that certain car stereos didn't even have on their dial with a weaker antenna than 94.7 has. And I would think Cumulus has a lot more financial resources than Mega Media Group ever did. Believe me, you country music fans will be ALL RIGHT!

To that, I also wish all of you country fans the best of luck. :) As bad as it's been for the dance music community, it's been MUCH worse for country fans since Y-107 left. You fans have been LONG DESERVING of this :).
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The 87.7 frequency has a nice range. It has the advantage of not being short-spaced.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
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Only if you're ignoring PVI in Philly who's a digital blowtorch in the space, the plethora of pirates on 87.9, the few stations on 88.1...
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I have not found WPVI to be an issue in the analogue realm, anymore. Conversely, WPVI DID have a very nice, strong, audio signal well into Monmouth County prior to the wrecking ball.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
I'm wondering once again whether Cumulus will use 94.7 for the new CBS Sports Network.
According to Chicagoland Radio and Media, there is a strong rumor that Cumulus will soon take over Merlin Media's two main stations in the Windy City. The article cites "industry leaks" that they have an agreement with CBS radio to carry their upcoming national sports programming on WIQI.
If that can happen in market #3, it would seem quite possible in New York, with soon to be acquired 94.7.

Media Doings In Chicago (see paragraph #2): http://chicagoradioandmedia.com/new...eber-zander-david-berner-rick-odell-much-more
 
I thought 3-letter calls could only be used if they were being reclaimed by their original holder.

But even if they were available, I don't think a "new country" station in 2013 is going to name itself after one from the 1970s. The possible "brand equity" is minimal, if there's any at all.
 
If they really wanted to, they could get the WWHN-FM calls (there is am AM station in Joilet, IL with that callsign; they also operated a sister station at 102.3 FM with the WWHN-FM callsign at one point)...
 
MusicRadioUSA said:
Are the WHN call letters available ?
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I'm sorry but very few, if any other than the 40-50+ age group on this board know or care what WHN was. We're not going back in time here to recreate radio of the past. To create a new country station in New York would be a risky experiment. Calls would mean nothing accept to those of us on this board and calling it WHN certainly wouldn't help it appeal to the age group they'd be going after who already get most of their music from outlets other than radio, especially in NYC with so little drive time.
 
I would say higher than the 40-50+ age group. Someone 40 was a little kid when WHN was on. I would say 55+ only remembers anything about WHN. I'm talking about non radio geeks, not people like us.
 
WNTIRadio said:
I would say higher than the 40-50+ age group. Someone 40 was a little kid when WHN was on. I would say 55+ only remembers anything about WHN. I'm talking about non radio geeks, not people like us.
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Someone born in 1970 is 42.

WHN bit the dirt on July 1, 1987. That person would have been 16 or 17, at the time.

So, that would be about right, except the normal 16 or 17 year old would have been listening to Z-100 from the time they were 13.

WHN would have been perceived as their parents old time station.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
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