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96.3 new mess! where's el pacha,coco cabrera? they went to hell?

DavidEduardo said:
moreno said:
eduardo is very close to puerto ricans...yeah, he worked in puerto rico for a long time and he has this love.. its ok, i get it! but " papi" your not in puerto rico..this is new york!

You conveniently forget that I also worked in the Dominican Republic... I found these two unemplyed guys named Willy and Marino, in 1956, and put them together in this little show we called El Gobierno de la Mañana... to this day the show is #1 in the República, 23 years later.

This is not about countries or loves or hates. Radio is about pleasing the biggest number of people possible. So there will be a few people, like you, who like it less, and many, many, we hope, who like it more.
you're a dominican hater david! you can fool everyone here, but not me! what did you said about "merengue" on radio revista? do i have to remind you?el pacha had the highest numbers on la kalle and you got rid of him? you nasssty!
 
DavidEduardo said:
moreno said:
eduardo is very close to puerto ricans...yeah, he worked in puerto rico for a long time and he has this love.. its ok, i get it! but " papi" your not in puerto rico..this is new york!

You conveniently forget that I also worked in the Dominican Republic... I found these two unemplyed guys named Willy and Marino, in 1956, and put them together in this little show we called El Gobierno de la Mañana... to this day the show is #1 in the República, 23 years later.

This is not about countries or loves or hates. Radio is about pleasing the biggest number of people possible. So there will be a few people, like you, who like it less, and many, many, we hope, who like it more.
on radio ravista you said: where there is salsa, merengue doesnt fit! isnt that a dominican hater? you still dont have any dominican dj, locutor on 96.3! go to church!
 
moreno said:
DavidEduardo said:
moreno said:
eduardo is very close to puerto ricans...yeah, he worked in puerto rico for a long time and he has this love.. its ok, i get it! but " papi" your not in puerto rico..this is new york!

You conveniently forget that I also worked in the Dominican Republic... I found these two unemplyed guys named Willy and Marino, in 1956, and put them together in this little show we called El Gobierno de la Mañana... to this day the show is #1 in the República, 23 years later.

This is not about countries or loves or hates. Radio is about pleasing the biggest number of people possible. So there will be a few people, like you, who like it less, and many, many, we hope, who like it more.
on radio ravista you said: where there is salsa, merengue doesnt fit! isnt that a dominican hater? you still dont have any dominican dj, locutor on 96.3! go to church!

Don't feel alone, the dance music community is also feeling his wrath of hate to us.
 
Once again, Imperio, if el pacha had any talent or any ratings, he would be the one ruling NYC now. But now that Luis Jimenez is crushing el Vacilon, they have to make sure he's first. Like we've told you several times, your pacha will be back (unfortunately), but you don't want to listen. Now, it's the time el Vacilon is going down fast. They are begging for numbers by paying people to listen to their show (Megatombola). They are severily lacking in production. There's no content or coordination in that show. On the other hand, Luis Jimenez has much more organization and content and it is a much more interesting and entertaining show. So no wonder the numbers are going up for him.
 
sancocho said:
Once again, Imperio, if el pacha had any talent or any ratings, he would be the one ruling NYC now. But now that Luis Jimenez is crushing el Vacilon, they have to make sure he's first. Like we've told you several times, your pacha will be back (unfortunately), but you don't want to listen. Now, it's the time el Vacilon is going down fast. They are begging for numbers by paying people to listen to their show (Megatombola). They are severily lacking in production. There's no content or coordination in that show. On the other hand, Luis Jimenez has much more organization and content and it is a much more interesting and entertaining show. So no wonder the numbers are going up for him.
and now boca chula came back to work with luis, I don't know about el shorty who also showed up on friday...but this show is getting better and better, his biggest drawback was the weak signal but that problem has been solved...can't wait to see the morning ratings..

p.s. moreno, el pacha will come back, just be patient..I even miss el pachatazo, but hey, what can I do.
 
sancocho said:
Once again, Imperio, if el pacha had any talent or any ratings, he would be the one ruling NYC now. But now that Luis Jimenez is crushing el Vacilon, they have to make sure he's first. Like we've told you several times, your pacha will be back (unfortunately), but you don't want to listen. Now, it's the time el Vacilon is going down fast. They are begging for numbers by paying people to listen to their show (Megatombola). They are severily lacking in production. There's no content or coordination in that show. On the other hand, Luis Jimenez has much more organization and content and it is a much more interesting and entertaining show. So no wonder the numbers are going up for him.
luis jimenez, crushing el vacilon? ;D keep dreaming! el pachatazo had a 0.9+ ratings on saturdays, when 96.3 finally decide to put him back those numbers will be gone...is that smart radio? seriously?
 
moreno said:
on radio ravista you said: where there is salsa, merengue doesnt fit! isnt that a dominican hater? you still dont have any dominican dj, locutor on 96.3! go to church!

Of course, I said no such thing. At any given time, the issue is about how many hits there are in the different genres a particular format or station might have, and how many past hits in those genres are still playable. That data is confirmed by consulting with listeners representing all the components (age, gender, origin, etc.) in a station audience.

It there is a wealth of merengues that appeal to Puertoricans, Colombians, Ecuadorians and Dominicans, then there will be many of those songs on the air. And so on for each other style and genre, from salsa to bachata to pop and other styles.

At the time that you totally misconstrued my remarks, there were few playable merengues that crossed the borders of of the different segments of the audience, and thus there was no way a station wishing to appeal to a broad sector of the New York audience could play many merengues.

As with multigenre formats of all kinds, there is no static condition in programming mix. What is the rule at one time may be the exception at another.
 
d21ofnj said:
Don't feel alone, the dance music community is also feeling his wrath of hate to us.

You seem to like to divert attention from the fact that dance is a format that has not worked over time in any US market.

Classical is not a format that is currently working well in any US market on commercial radio. That statement, by your standard, would make me a hater of classical music... yet I have a sizable collection of classical music, have managed a classical station and even owned one in the past.

Oh, yea, I programmed dance in a top 15 market all the way to #1.

My suggestion is that you try harder to see the difference between programming based opinions and personal taste.
 
DavidEduardo said:
Oh, yea, I programmed dance in a top 15 market all the way to #1.

So if you made a dance station reach #1 on the market, then you KNOW dance is a viable format and it could work.


DavidEduardo said:
My suggestion is that you try harder to see the difference between programming based opinions and personal taste.

For a small guy like me programming an internet dance station, and made noise and got noticed in the Jersey Shore with 967party.com should say DANCE IS NEEDED TO FILL THE VOID. For an internet dance station to have over 250 presets on Live365 mind you, and majority were from the shore, what does that tell you. How come when my personal taste is put into my programming decisions, it seems to work well? But you can say that's the internet and not FM, but point is, the difference is I listen to the opinions that MATTER. Ever wonder why people are slowly turning away from terrestrial radio? And you thought HD was gonna bring the listeners back to FM? Look, I do not look at my listeners as dollar signs, for the bills could be paid in other ways. I think Party has proved that local advertising gets the cash rolling. What's the difference between an ad from Pizza Hut and Joey's Pizza?
 
d21ofnj said:
Oh, yeah, I programmed dance in a top 15 market all the way to #1.

So if you made a dance station reach #1 on the market, then you KNOW dance is a viable format and it could work.

No, I know that while that could happen in the 80's and early 90's, it can't happen today.


but point is, the difference is I listen to the opinions that MATTER.

And that is exactly what stations do... they talk to the the people whose opinion matters... the listeners!
 
DavidEduardo said:
No, I know that while that could happen in the 80's and early 90's, it can't happen today.

And why can't it happen today? Because of what the ravers done and how the media completely assulted their lifestyle, therefore stereotyping that all of dance is what ravers listen to?


DavidEduardo said:
And that is exactly what stations do... they talk to the the people whose opinion matters... the listeners!

I think we are talking about different kinds of listeners.
 
d21ofnj said:
And why can't it happen today? Because of what the ravers done and how the media completely assulted their lifestyle, therefore stereotyping that all of dance is what ravers listen to?

No, because both the mood and the tastes of people have moved on and are both more fragmented and less receptive to music forms that have little or no lyric content and are not broad appeal. remember, the "disco" years started when AM was still dominant, and formats were not split up in such small pieces, and that same basic stream flowed until the decline of freestyle in the 90's.

I think we are talking about different kinds of listeners.

And how are there different kinds of listeners? Commercial radio is bought by the number of listeners in the advertiser's target demographic, and it has little or nothing to do with formats and music styles.
 
DavidEduardo said:
moreno said:
on radio ravista you said: where there is salsa, merengue doesnt fit! isnt that a dominican hater? you still dont have any dominican dj, locutor on 96.3! go to church!

Of course, I said no such thing. At any given time, the issue is about how many hits there are in the different genres a particular format or station might have, and how many past hits in those genres are still playable. That data is confirmed by consulting with listeners representing all the components (age, gender, origin, etc.) in a station audience.

It there is a wealth of merengues that appeal to Puertoricans, Colombians, Ecuadorians and Dominicans, then there will be many of those songs on the air. And so on for each other style and genre, from salsa to bachata to pop and other styles.

At the time that you totally misconstrued my remarks, there were few playable merengues that crossed the borders of of the different segments of the audience, and thus there was no way a station wishing to appeal to a broad sector of the New York audience could play many merengues.

As with multigenre formats of all kinds, there is no static condition in programming mix. What is the rule at one time may be the exception at another.
yes you did mr. eduardo! by the way, why did you got rid of el pacha? 0.9+ ratings on saturdays its not enought for you?
 
moreno said:
DavidEduardo said:
moreno said:
on radio ravista you said: where there is salsa, merengue doesnt fit! isnt that a dominican hater? you still dont have any dominican dj, locutor on 96.3! go to church!

Of course, I said no such thing. At any given time, the issue is about how many hits there are in the different genres a particular format or station might have, and how many past hits in those genres are still playable. That data is confirmed by consulting with listeners representing all the components (age, gender, origin, etc.) in a station audience.

It there is a wealth of merengues that appeal to Puertoricans, Colombians, Ecuadorians and Dominicans, then there will be many of those songs on the air. And so on for each other style and genre, from salsa to bachata to pop and other styles.

At the time that you totally misconstrued my remarks, there were few playable merengues that crossed the borders of of the different segments of the audience, and thus there was no way a station wishing to appeal to a broad sector of the New York audience could play many merengues.

As with multigenre formats of all kinds, there is no static condition in programming mix. What is the rule at one time may be the exception at another.
yes you did mr. eduardo! by the way, why did you got rid of el pacha? 0.9+ ratings on saturdays its not enought for you?

man, and he continues with the the pacha issue..David just answer him
 
El Chompiras said:
moreno said:
DavidEduardo said:
moreno said:
on radio ravista you said: where there is salsa, merengue doesnt fit! isnt that a dominican hater? you still dont have any dominican dj, locutor on 96.3! go to church!

Of course, I said no such thing. At any given time, the issue is about how many hits there are in the different genres a particular format or station might have, and how many past hits in those genres are still playable. That data is confirmed by consulting with listeners representing all the components (age, gender, origin, etc.) in a station audience.

It there is a wealth of merengues that appeal to Puertoricans, Colombians, Ecuadorians and Dominicans, then there will be many of those songs on the air. And so on for each other style and genre, from salsa to bachata to pop and other styles.

At the time that you totally misconstrued my remarks, there were few playable merengues that crossed the borders of of the different segments of the audience, and thus there was no way a station wishing to appeal to a broad sector of the New York audience could play many merengues.

As with multigenre formats of all kinds, there is no static condition in programming mix. What is the rule at one time may be the exception at another.
yes you did mr. eduardo! by the way, why did you got rid of el pacha? 0.9+ ratings on saturdays its not enought for you?

man, and he continues with the the pacha issue..David just answer him
HE HASNT ANSWER ME! what that heck is DJ KAZZANOVA doing at 96.3? i mean, what numbers does he has!
 
DavidEduardo said:
moreno said:
HE HASNT ANSWER ME! what that heck is DJ KAZZANOVA doing at 96.3? i mean, what numbers does he has!

Run over to http://www.radio-info.com/site/markets/grid/new-york and check out how WCAA beat WSKQ... and then let's have a little more of your divisive attitude.
david can you please clarify the numbers for me WSKQ has a 3.2 compare to WCAA 0.9, also there is nothing under WXNY (new station la equis)...I was also wondering how Luis jimenez did under the new frequency.
 
David just flip WCAA (if you are in charge of that station) to an Indie rock format...we all know how much you love that music...
 
El Chompiras said:
david can you please clarify the numbers for me WSKQ has a 3.2 compare to WCAA 0.9, also there is nothing under WXNY (new station la equis)...I was also wondering how Luis jimenez did under the new frequency.

The data released today was the Arbitron "October" 28-day period. WCAA 96.3 was listed as a "new" station so the 0.9 was an average of the 4 weeks of the survey, during which WCAA 96.3 was on for 7. Thus, in those 7 days, it got a share of 3.6 (0.9 times 4) and a cume of about 2.1 million.
 
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