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UNTIL DAVID EDUARDO " DR. EVIL" IS THERE... EL PACHA HAS NO CHANCE TO GET BACK TO 96.3.dominick said:
fermin said:
So....what's gonna happen to "El Palo", I wonder. Will it be replaced or will this be an additional local show on 1280? If the latter, that can only be a good thing.
As far as El Pacha doing talk radio....what's so bad about that? Maybe he'd rather do some personality based radio instead of shuffling music files on air.
dominick said:
96.3 is not La Kalle. It is a new station with a new format, appealing to a different audience group in consideration of the 10-fold increase in power over what Kalle had.
Trying to compare the Kalle format and appeal with that of X 96.3 is absurd. This is not about the differences between different countries and nationalities, but the things in common that make up the dynamic New York Latino community!
At the same time, Coco, who had long been on WADO, is reinfoced on the same station by El Pachá, giving even more options than ever to listeners in the area.
Re: 96.3 new mess! where's el pacha,coco cabrera? they went to hell?
I may not agree with David 99% of the time, but I have to say at least these guys are still on the air whether or not if they are on FM or AM. Yes, it sucks they were on FM and aren't a part of X, but if they are on WADO, be happy they are still on the air.
I may not agree with David 99% of the time, but I have to say at least these guys are still on the air whether or not if they are on FM or AM. Yes, it sucks they were on FM and aren't a part of X, but if they are on WADO, be happy they are still on the air.
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DesiArnez6
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I have to comment here. Perhaps youd have to stay in Puerto Rico, and then go visit Dominican Republic. Their radio is VERY different. Did I say Very? Well execs might not admit it, but there is a very good reason Dominican specific pirates keep popping up, and NOT Puerto Rican Pirates. I confess, X96.3 Plays incorporates more music that would be on the dominican dial, not a lot, but more then when they were la kalle 105.9., And CERTAINLY more than 97.9 
Puerto Rican Radio is dominated by Salsa, some hurban, and some merengue / bachata sprinkled on.
Dominican Radio is VERY much dominated by Merengue and Bachata 50%/50% practically. You can go a few hours without hearing Salsa, the bachata and salsa is even from different artists in many cases, less hurban influence, and something you will likely NEVER hear on a puerto Rican station, "Merengue Tipico", like a ranch style merengue (looking for the right words) more accordion based?
Just stream a typical Dominican station youll see the difference. Like Monumental 100.3, La Primera 88.1, SuperK 100.7, Criolla 106.1, Many more I cant remember off hand, 90% are all the same typical format excpt in the capital where theres a bit more diversity (hurban, some more salsa here and there), but even there, people usually just flip from station, because ratings dont seem to exist, so there is (especially in Santiago) the "Dominican Format" on almost every frequency, and it sounds nothing like any Spanish radio in NYC, except for the Dominican Pirates.
Puerto Rican Radio is dominated by Salsa, some hurban, and some merengue / bachata sprinkled on.
Dominican Radio is VERY much dominated by Merengue and Bachata 50%/50% practically. You can go a few hours without hearing Salsa, the bachata and salsa is even from different artists in many cases, less hurban influence, and something you will likely NEVER hear on a puerto Rican station, "Merengue Tipico", like a ranch style merengue (looking for the right words) more accordion based?
Just stream a typical Dominican station youll see the difference. Like Monumental 100.3, La Primera 88.1, SuperK 100.7, Criolla 106.1, Many more I cant remember off hand, 90% are all the same typical format excpt in the capital where theres a bit more diversity (hurban, some more salsa here and there), but even there, people usually just flip from station, because ratings dont seem to exist, so there is (especially in Santiago) the "Dominican Format" on almost every frequency, and it sounds nothing like any Spanish radio in NYC, except for the Dominican Pirates.
DesiArnez6 said:
I've done both, at least for a little while.
Not really. There is only one salsa station, La Z (Salsoul, once a salsa station, is pretty much all talk). There are a bunch of ballad and AC stations, though. Fidelity and Estereotempo being the biggest. And Top 40 has Toca de To' and market leader WKAQ-FM. Talk based Top 40 is at home at La Nueva X and Mega, and Reggaetón 9-4 and Mix are all reggaetón, of course. Radio Nueva Vida, with contemporary Christian music, is a big ratings success. So we have one salsa station of significance, and that means that radio is not dominated by salsa on the Island.
The majority of stations in Sto. Domingo play neither merengue nor bachata... they are pop, ballad, English pop and ballad, talk, etc.
There are ratings... and for more than two decades, they have been dominated by mostly-talk Z 101, starting with the top rated El Gobierno de la Mañana morning show.
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DesiArnez6
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*** I tried to stream the stations I listed and it seems they have streaming problems. Sigh times change I guess, they all used to stream well.
This one is very popular as well and I'm streaming it now, as a comparison to New York Spanish stations
"La N 103.5 FM" http://www.lan103.net/
This one is very popular as well and I'm streaming it now, as a comparison to New York Spanish stations
"La N 103.5 FM" http://www.lan103.net/
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DesiArnez6
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DavidEduardo said:
hurban was meant to be inclusive of reggeton, which has been shifting recently which is why I simplified with the word hurban.
You are right I did underestimate Spanish a/c
Top 40 in Puerto is heavy on Salsa when I heard it
Sto. Domingo is a very different market indeed, and it is also the least "Dominican" It is heavily influenced by foreigners. It is as if saying the Miami market were representative of typical American radio. Santiago is the second largest city in the country, almost no tourism, excpt Dominicans visiting some local family, it is about as purely dominican as it gets. When you ride the guaguas anywhere, you can hear any number of 10 stations or more in a short period, there is no doubt they will be playing merengue or merengue tipico, or bachata. (Puerto Rico I only went for a weekend (even though I was a heavy music listener and could hear the clubs all around)
... And Santo Domingo I went to on holidays and special occasions (still with my walkman), but I lived in Santiago about 10 months out of every year for about 8 years. And Santiago is where Dominican culture has been preserved and isolated. The exact same music is found in Moca, San Francisco de Macoris, La Vega, anywhere in the north except maybe the tourist areas in Puerto Plata Province.
Well, well, I am Dominican and it was about time we have a station with more variety. I like my merengue, bachata, salsa, perico ripiao (I even have my guira to play tipico), but some of you need to understand that many Dominicans have been exposed to listening other type of music or I should say some dominicans are americanize. All my Dominicans friends who I went to college with (SUNY NEW PALTZ), listen to other music besides merengue and bachata. There is more music than just these two; I like some reggeton, hip hop, Alicia keys, shakira, house music, etc, etc…my wife wouldn’t mind listening to bachata all day, but she also wouldn’t mind listening to other songs. X96.3 had a great mix on Thanksgiving Day, my wife said, WAO, THEY ARE REALLY MIXING IT, I LIKE IT. I understand many Dominicans who have no lived here for a long time, are still attach to merengue/bachata/tipico, but what about those like me who wanted a completely different format and now I have it? Even my sister who was born here now turns into x96.3 occasionally because of the Spanish/English mix. She basically listens to hot 97. In my opinion NYC is not only about merengue/bachata. Even though plenty of Dominicans live in the city, we also have to remember those from other hispanic culture.DesiArnez6 said:I have to comment here. Perhaps youd have to stay in Puerto Rico, and then go visit Dominican Republic. Their radio is VERY different. Did I say Very? Well execs might not admit it, but there is a very good reason Dominican specific pirates keep popping up, and NOT Puerto Rican Pirates. I confess, X96.3 Plays incorporates more music that would be on the dominican dial, not a lot, but more then when they were la kalle 105.9., And CERTAINLY more than 97.9
Puerto Rican Radio is dominated by Salsa, some hurban, and some merengue / bachata sprinkled on.
Dominican Radio is VERY much dominated by Merengue and Bachata 50%/50% practically. You can go a few hours without hearing Salsa, the bachata and salsa is even from different artists in many cases, less hurban influence, and something you will likely NEVER hear on a puerto Rican station, "Merengue Tipico", like a ranch style merengue (looking for the right words) more accordion based?
Just stream a typical Dominican station youll see the difference. Like Monumental 100.3, La Primera 88.1, SuperK 100.7, Criolla 106.1, Many more I cant remember off hand, 90% are all the same typical format excpt in the capital where theres a bit more diversity (hurban, some more salsa here and there), but even there, people usually just flip from station, because ratings dont seem to exist, so there is (especially in Santiago) the "Dominican Format" on almost every frequency, and it sounds nothing like any Spanish radio in NYC, except for the Dominican Pirates.
dominick said:
First, it's understood that the merengue calls the Dominican Republic its home (although there is "merengue colombiano" from Colombia). But we are not in the DR, we are in NY and there are people from many places who call NY their home. So any station has to play the songs that all can agree on, not just songs one group likes and that other groups may not enjoy hearing anywhere near as much.
And then... the music in English on stations in La Capital is not there to please tourists... it is there because a large segment of the radio audience in Santo Domingo likes that... just as others like reggaetón or pop or ballads or rock en español.
DesiArnez6 said:
Not really. Mega plays little, Toca de To' plays a few, KQ only if there are salsa hits... sometimes there are none. La Nueva X tends to play a bit more.
And Top 40 by nature is a format that plays the hits of the moment. So if there are salsa hits, they get played, and if there are none, they don't.
I would not say that it is "influenced by foreigners" as much as "it's more metropolitan." Since a third of the population lives there, it can hardly not be in part representative of the country as a whole.
Whenever an effort is made to make people seem more different than they really are, I tend to question the motives. Every time I hear things like "this market i different" or "that won't work here" I get the very strong feeling that it will. Once, even, I was told that a morning show with social content would not work in Santo Domingo... yet I hired Marino and Willy and look what happened.
You still think La X has gone to hell?!
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DesiArnez6
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DavidEduardo said:
Well, I humbly hope that you will spend time in the Cibao region. It is about as different as Alabama, Missouri, Tennessee, and Oklahoma, from NYC, Boston, and Philly, and Baltimore.
Maybe you don't see the differences. I have yet to meet anyone who doesn't see people from "the capital" as "different". Sometimes in a bad way, sometimes an indifferent way. Some things may work in other markets. Reggeton caught on quickly on a few stations in Santiago. (La Kalle was everywhere on a lot of the city car routes, I rode route B often and heard it in nearly every car when it first caught on, EVEN on a OMSA Bus Route #2!
But overwhelmingly Santiago stayed traditonal, as most of the country does. In the countryside, there was no transport at night, so we all just hung out at different colmados in town, put a random station, and danced bachata and merengue till worn out.
I'm just trying to say, like Lite FM is the "safe bet" in new york for supermarkets, or stores, or taxis in much of the city (The default "no offense to anyone" ok for everyone station.....Just like Adult contemporary is our "mainstream safe bet" In most of the dominican republic, that bachata/merengue/tipico mix with a VERY few salsa, spanish a/c just to give people a break on the hour or so
, that is the "safe mix" that "everyone likes" (in quotes because not EVERYone will always like it.) But it is just what we hear on station after station after station, and the dial is as full as you can get.Southerners and northers in DR aren't extremely different, just Very different accent, different politics, different culture, even a noticeable degree of skin color. Even the West has its separate life, but they are VERY isolated. The final southeast region I am not familiar with only that the coast is ultra wealthy and touristy, and ironically also an epicenter for mosquito illness, yikes. I hope im understood, im not trying to divide, but the capital is like an enclave, its just not representative as the country. The cibao is huge, and encompasses most of the biggest radio markets AFTER the Capital.
DesiArnez6 said:
Actually, if you look at the format arrays in each of those markets (and the major cities in each of the four states you compare specific cities with) you will find they are quite similar. The only possible differences have to do with the percentage of various ethnic groups in each market or area, and the single exception of no country station in New York.
Obviously, small markets in Alabama or the other states might have differences when compared to the huge markets of NYC, Boston and Philadelphia... but that is a function of the more limited numbers of stations as you go down in market size... any place in the world, in fact.
But the similarities far outpace the slight differences. In the case of radio, some of the issues involve the perception of smaller market broadcasters as to what they should play, while larger market ones often do research with the audience and have more skilled programming staffers.
The capital has a third of the entire population of the nation; that is as if NYC had a metro population of 100,000,000! No other city has anywhere near the population, so the trends and preferences are for the most part set in the biggest city, just as is the case for Santiago in Chile and Buenos Aires in Argentina and so on...
In any case, as was very perceptively noted in another post, tastes brought from another place, whether within the US or another nation are moderated and blended with the taste of the place of residence, and they further moderate over the years based on lack of exposure to the culture, news, events and styles of the place of origin. Again, stations in NY program to New York, not San Juan or Santo Domingo or Quito or Bogotá.
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