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97× HD-3

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Radio-Bored-Op

Wishing for this.... and
found it by accident.
and It ruled the radio all week
while visiting Disneyland....

It was amazing dance radio .....
done the way a TRUE club fm should sound ....
 
radiofan2023 said:
It's 97.1 HD2, Channel Q and it streams online:
www.audacy.com

CHANNEL Q

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More likely "Firelane" on HD3

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Get the trending news, shows, podcasts & more. See the latest stories online and listen to on any device with the Audacy app.
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Loverofradio said:
I’m still amazed no one finds it weird that the HD1 is all-news and the HD-2 is dance music. This is one of the reasons why I think news isn’t the long term play on 97.1
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Both Channel Q and Firelane are holdovers from Amp Radio being the format on the primary. News isn't going anywhere. Is it any weirder than 106.7 having Alternative on its primary signal to someone visiting LA from New York? It's your perception, not reality.
 
Loverofradio said:
I’m still amazed no one finds it weird that the HD1 is all-news and the HD-2 is dance music. This is one of the reasons why I think news isn’t the long term play on 97.1
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Sorry, but I find that to be a clueless prediction. If Audacy had different plans for 97.1, they wouldn't have used a KNX simulcast as a placeholder, nor would they have subsequently dropped the AM frequency from all of the imaging (both on-air and on the website).

IIRC, the primary HD stream on any station choosing to add digital to their signal is required to be the same programming as the analog.
 
lanceventa said:
More likely "Firelane" on HD3

www.audacy.com

News |

Get the trending news, shows, podcasts & more. See the latest stories online and listen to on any device with the Audacy app.
www.audacy.com


News isn't going anywhere. Is it any weirder than 106.7 having Alternative on its primary signal to someone visiting LA from New York? It's your perception, not reality.
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How come Audacy won’t spend the HD2 on developing something to enhance its news product? Don’t they want listeners for their HD2 as well? Are you certain Audacy wouldn’t flip 97.1 back to music? I didn’t see KNX on any “top billers” lists. Where do they sit in 25-54? If I’m wrong. I’ll eat crow. We keep saying how younger generations in a diverse market like L.A. won’t listen to alternative, but they’ll listen to all-news?
 
Loverofradio said:
How come Audacy won’t spend the HD2 on developing something to enhance its news product? Don’t they want listeners for their HD2 as well? Are you certain Audacy wouldn’t flip 97.1 back to music? I didn’t see KNX on any “top billers” lists. Where do they sit in 25-54? If I’m wrong. I’ll eat crow. We keep saying how younger generations in a diverse market like L.A. won’t listen to alternative, but they’ll listen to all-news?
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Where in all that naïveté do I start?

In general, HD2 streams are used for diversification of program offerings, not something that detracts from its main channel.

Yes, we are certain 97.1 isn't going back to music. I explained that already and no one else with the background to challenge my answer has.

And a station does not have to be on a "top billing" list to be of worth to a cluster. Nor do they have to attract huge 25-54 numbers.

You're not so much wrong as you are uninformed about how the business works.
 
Loverofradio said:
How come Audacy won’t spend the HD2 on developing something to enhance its news product? Don’t they want listeners for their HD2 as well? Are you certain Audacy wouldn’t flip 97.1 back to music? I didn’t see KNX on any “top billers” lists. Where do they sit in 25-54? If I’m wrong. I’ll eat crow.
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There's not enough listenership or awareness of HD Radio to do that. The majority of HD subchannels exists for one of two purposes. 1) To feed a translator. 2) So a streaming channel can get the music licensing rates for a broadcast station.

KNX billed $20.8 million in 2023, which is fifth best in the market. And also the top non-iHeart owned station. Only KIIS, KBIG, KFI and KOST were ahead of it.

Loverofradio said:
We keep saying how younger generations in a diverse market like L.A. won’t listen to alternative, but they’ll listen to all-news?
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Music genres are very fractured.. And Alternative is split between two stations which combined in Los Angeles do quite well compared to many other major markets. That's an apples/oranges comparison. News affects anyone to at least tune in at some point.
 
K.M. Richards said:
Yes, we are certain 97.1 isn't going back to music. I explained that already and no one else with the background to challenge my answer has.

And a station does not have to be on a "top billing" list to be of worth to a cluster. Nor do they have to attract huge 25-54 numbers.

You're not so much wrong as you are uninformed about how the business works.
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Youre only making guesses on here as much as the next guy. What do you know? Do you run a media company?
 
Loverofradio said:
Youre only making guesses on here as much as the next guy. What do you know? Do you run a media company?
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Yes, I am in the business. I am a programming consultant and also directly program KRKE in Albuquerque. I have been in the business for over a half-century (most of that time as a program director and/or operations manager) and in that time, I have probably forgotten more than you have managed to learn looking in from outside the business.

If anyone is "guessing" here, it is you, sir.
 
Loverofradio said:
Youre only making guesses on here as much as the next guy. What do you know? Do you run a media company?
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Making ridiculous comments and then expecting people that actually know how the industry works to prove their merits is not how this site works...
Loverofradio said:
Didn’t realize that. Like I said, if I’m wrong about the profitability of KNX, I’ll eat crow!
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You've already been proven wrong.
 
lanceventa said:
Making ridiculous comments and then expecting people that actually know how the industry works to prove their merits is not how this site works...

You've already been proven wrong.
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It’s not a ridiculous comment. Get over yourself. I work in the industry and do tv as well. It’s a website to discuss opinions. Not what you like
 
Loverofradio said:
It’s not a ridiculous comment. Get over yourself. I work in the industry and do tv as well. It’s a website to discuss opinions. Not what you like
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I've only been doing online radio stuff for 31 years or so, so maybe I'm just naive and new to this, but in my experience, when you get into an argument with the owner of a site (that would be Lance) about how his site is run, you can usually expect to lose that argument.

That having been said, this is a discussion site where we value facts over uninformed opinions, and the facts are these:

KNX remains a very profitable format. All news isn't cheap to run, but it also attracts a premium audience that's extremely valuable to a lot of big-ticket advertisers who won't touch most other radio formats. As the major operator of all-news formats in the US, Audacy understands this and doesn't make random changes to its valuable all-news properties without a lot of thought and research.

Over the last few years, it has moved all of those all-newsers to FM except one (WWJ in Detroit), and it's not retreating from those moves, which have kept the all news formats viable as AM fades away.

As for what's on any given station's HD2, it rarely has much reflection on what's on the main signal. LA was unusual in that it had a bunch of early attempts at spin-off HD subs such as KRTH's 50s/60s oldies, but those strategies have largely failed. These days, the vast majority of subs are either national formats like Channel Q, AM simulcasts, or leased out to ethnic broadcasters.
 
Loverofradio said:
It’s not a ridiculous comment. Get over yourself. I work in the industry and do tv as well. It’s a website to discuss opinions. Not what you like
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In my not-so-humble opinion, the difference between opinions and asking questions -- then challenging answers you don't happen to like -- is the size of the Grand Canyon.

Also IMNSHO, it is never a good idea to tell the Chief Operator to "get over yourself". Either at a station or here.

But those are only my opinions. Which is what you said the site is for, right?
 
fybush said:
I've only been doing online radio stuff for 31 years or so, so maybe I'm just naive and new to this, but in my experience, when you get into an argument with the owner of a site (that would be Lance) about how his site is run, you can usually expect to lose that argument.

That having been said, this is a discussion site where we value facts over uninformed opinions, and the facts are these:

KNX remains a very profitable format. All news isn't cheap to run, but it also attracts a premium audience that's extremely valuable to a lot of big-ticket advertisers who won't touch most other radio formats. As the major operator of all-news formats in the US, Audacy understands this and doesn't make random changes to its valuable all-news properties without a lot of thought and research.

Over the last few years, it has moved all of those all-newsers to FM except one (WWJ in Detroit), and it's not retreating from those moves, which have kept the all news formats viable as AM fades away.

As for what's on any given station's HD2, it rarely has much reflection on what's on the main signal. LA was unusual in that it had a bunch of early attempts at spin-off HD subs such as KRTH's 50s/60s oldies, but those strategies have largely failed. These days, the vast majority of subs are either national formats like Channel Q, AM simulcasts, or leased out to ethnic broadcasters.
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For those, who for some unknown reason, don't really understand all-news radio, a station such as KNX-FM is an absolute necessity, especially in a huge automobile market like LA. The immediacy of live 24/7 news radio is what it's all about particularly in emergency situations. If it's happening now KNX is talking about it! When KNX began simulcasting on 97.1 FM, people were thrilled to have such a resource right there in the middle of the FM band. AM 1070's enormous signal still has it's place, filling in areas where the FM can't penetrate. FM 97.1 makes KNX more relevent than ever. (It's also a blessing as the AM section of my car radio died a few months ago!)
 
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