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97.7 Chuck FM Greenville

LOL That was a good format stunt... Good way to get people talking also... It was right about this time when the flip took place from Oldies to CHR if I remember also... CC1
 
Powell E. Way III W4OPW said:
I can hear this in far NW Newberry County........ ;D
I've gotten it as far as southern Laurens county....the problem is, though, that 97.5 WCOS really starts to eat in on it as you go S/SW. Still, this thing cranks for 250w.

97.7 Chuck FM is a fantastic addition to the Upstate radio landscape, and fills a big void for older music. I am a regular listener.
 
WCOS-FM isn't THAT strong in western Newberry county, although I have no trouble with the HD. I can hear it fine on a radio with DSP, but a DSP has no trouble with super strong FIRST adjacents. It really amazed me that the Grundig G8 does so well on FM.
 
Powell E. Way III W4OPW said:
WCOS-FM isn't THAT strong in western Newberry county, although I have no trouble with the HD. I can hear it fine on a radio with DSP, but a DSP has no trouble with super strong FIRST adjacents. It really amazed me that the Grundig G8 does so well on FM.

On I-26 I was able to listen in Spartanburg County with few problems.
Near Cross Anchor & Enoree it got alot more static but still audiable up til the I-26/I-385 interchange,
and after that headed south I couldn't hear Chuck at all anymore, WCOS bled in on the car radio, near Clinton & Laurens.
I don't see Chuck making it any closer to Columbia unless it was during tropo,
WCOS has a decent signal even up here in Gaffney it can win over WKBC and bleeds into 97.7 as well (so does WPEG).
Still amazing from only a 250 watt transmitter over 40 miles away.
 
Two factors help low power signals better than just about anything else, low or no interference cochannel and first adjacent, and tower and or ground level height. I have seen and heard newer engineers tell people that if you don't want the tower height then just up the power to the same erp. This might look good on paper but in the real world nothing and I mean nothing beats height. Granted it helps to have penetration power for trees and buildings but if it is at the sake of less tower height and you are not a 50k or 100k station then you are wasting your signal.
 
Gatekeeper007 said:
Two factors help low power signals better than just about anything else, low or no interference cochannel and first adjacent, and tower and or ground level height. I have seen and heard newer engineers tell people that if you don't want the tower height then just up the power to the same erp. This might look good on paper but in the real world nothing and I mean nothing beats height. Granted it helps to have penetration power for trees and buildings but if it is at the sake of less tower height and you are not a 50k or 100k station then you are wasting your signal.

Well said, Gatekeeper007...It does appear that the 50 dbu contour on 97.7 Chuck is the 'magic' contour,
due to line of sight 30 miles away from Paris Mountain. I can hear Chuck FM in Western parts of Spartanburg mostly static free,
it does better there than Hot 98.1 and it's just as strong as 1st adjacent Power 98.
It's also listenable at least up to the town of Cowpens, a few miles away from my location,
I tune into Chuck right after passing thru Cowpens every time I goto Spartanburg.
 
freqdev said:
i listened some today. the audio quality is horrible. is it because it is a rebroadcast of a stream?
I didn't listen today, but it's always sounded good to me. Their online stream is poor quality (as are most Cox streams) compared to most, but I doubt they are feeding it with that. I am not sure if translators receive their audio differently than traditional sticks.
 
Since it is a fill-in translator of WJMZ, it can be fed by any method they like, probably an STL of some sort from their Greenville studios to Paris Mt. I would imagine few HD-FM and even fewer AM translators are fed by over the air signals.
 
I'm almost certain they're picking that up off the HD radio receiver. Being an HD-3 there is data compression at play there that you are hearing causing the swimmy streaming sound. As I'm told often, MOST radio listeners will never notice that. I'd say all-in-all Cox is to be commended for pulling this out of their hat of tricks. Stand by for a possible DMG suprise. OK, you may wanna sit - could be a minute.
 
I'd love to hear something other than Spanish on 103.9. Since that's DMG's specialty, though, I doubt it. Is the Spanish speaking population here that large? Just sayin' :D

I can't tell a difference between 97.7 and the other FM's, except that it sounds better than the Entercom stations to my relatively untrained ear not listening on a really good system. Agree that it was a smart move on Cox's part.
 
CraigD said:
I'm almost certain they're picking that up off the HD radio receiver. Being an HD-3 there is data compression at play there that you are hearing causing the swimmy streaming sound. As I'm told often, MOST radio listeners will never notice that. I'd say all-in-all Cox is to be commended for pulling this out of their hat of tricks. Stand by for a possible DMG suprise. OK, you may wanna sit - could be a minute.
I'm wondering if "that swimmy streaming sound" is what I used to hear when I would try to listen to Paul Harvey online when I somehow missed his show on my local station. That's one reason I refused to even try streaming for years.

Another is the fact I could only access the Interent at a library. Now that I have it at home, I decided sound just complicated things and a stream would slow down my already slow Internet. Plus I avoid all but a few select sites here.
 
97.7 Chuck is fed uncompressed via a T-1. It can switch to a HD tuner in the event of a fault on the T-1.
107.3 HD-3 Chuck is also fed uncompressed via a Harris HD Link digital STL.

The HD channels on WJMZ are all at 32k bitrate.

Chuck's music came directly from TM Century's Gold Wave music library in .wav format.


For what it's worth .....
 
Anyone notice a dip in Chuck's signal strength this week? Used to get them crystal clear in the Five Forks/Simpsonville area, but now there's a fair amount of cross interference.
 
I listened yesterday and they sounded fine in the north Greenville area (Poinsett Hwy, N Pleasantburg area) down towards Fountain Inn. Are you getting anything strong on 97.5 or 97.9? Could be the weather, who knows.
 
carolinaradio said:
I listened yesterday and they sounded fine in the north Greenville area (Poinsett Hwy, N Pleasantburg area) down towards Fountain Inn. Are you getting anything strong on 97.5 or 97.9? Could be the weather, who knows.

I'll have to try again on the way home. Hopefully something temporary/weather related caused it.
 
It might start getting weird as the weather warms even more. I got Project 96.1 from Atlanta crystal clear instead of Channel 96.1 the other day. Since their signal isn't a powerhouse already, they might be vulnerable to interference/tropospheric conditions.
 
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