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98 Rock Suxs

scottsvb5 said:
BTW you go to every ratings format in each city and see Active Rock beats out Alternative Rock in every market. People dont want to hear the crap of the 90s cause it was mostly crap...and only good in its day cause it was a change..and people like change every now and then.

I think the only person here wanting the kind of change you advocate is you....and maybe DIZGUY. But thanks for speaking for the rest of us. ??? ::)

Are you aware that Active is an offshoot of the alternative format?

G
 
This is how neutered the station I grew up with has become...the front page of 98rock.com has the word "Shocking" right about the Lex and Terry logo...to the left is a graphic of the actual shocker gesture with a "censored" banner over it. Clear Channel has really squeezed rock radio into a bland broth of what it used to be.

Sometimes I wish Janet Jackson would've just kept her nipple hidden.

On another note, Scotty there are plenty of 90s bands that would sound just fine following an 80s tune. Pearl Jam, Candlebox, Alice in Chains, Smashing Pumpkins (up until 1979) etc. all have roots in the late 80s rock scene. But I've listened to a lot of what you've posted in your Top 20s, and most of it doesn't have any legs, other than a specialty show. Of course I moved on from the over usage of distortion and 7-string guitars when I discovered something called melody.
 
upstate29651 said:
scottsvb5 said:
BTW you go to every ratings format in each city and see Active Rock beats out Alternative Rock in every market. People dont want to hear the crap of the 90s cause it was mostly crap...and only good in its day cause it was a change..and people like change every now and then.

I think the only person here wanting the kind of change you advocate is you....and maybe DIZGUY. But thanks for speaking for the rest of us. ??? ::)

Are you aware that Active is an offshoot of the alternative format?

G


Sorry G..but your nerd rock is fading across most of America!
 
Kunta said:
This is how neutered the station I grew up with has become...the front page of 98rock.com has the word "Shocking" right about the Lex and Terry logo...to the left is a graphic of the actual shocker gesture with a "censored" banner over it. Clear Channel has really squeezed rock radio into a bland broth of what it used to be.

Sometimes I wish Janet Jackson would've just kept her nipple hidden.

On another note, Scotty there are plenty of 90s bands that would sound just fine following an 80s tune. Pearl Jam, Candlebox, Alice in Chains, Smashing Pumpkins (up until 1979) etc. all have roots in the late 80s rock scene. But I've listened to a lot of what you've posted in your Top 20s, and most of it doesn't have any legs, other than a specialty show. Of course I moved on from the over usage of distortion and 7-string guitars when I discovered something called melody.


I would still play all them bands you mentioned. But not as even close to whats being played now. Maybe 1-2 times a day unless its a new song...like Candlebox new song "Stand" will get about 6 spins a day. Again the top 30 songs are not my personal favorite list, but songs I would play cause they are in other markets doing well including ours. Look at billboards and R&R all but maybe 1-2 songs are in the top 40 for Active Rock....but 98Rock has only about 8-10 songs.
 
Everyone keep sticking up for your alternative rock scene.. 2.3 average ratings nationally in all markets compared to 3.7 for Active Rock station. 98rock just did a 2.9........WOW very impressive.. NOT!
 
Ummmm...

upstate29651
Are you aware that Active is an offshoot of the alternative format?


I'd like to know how you came up with that. Active was an offshoot of AOR. Traditional rock stations were playing less and less current "ROCK" music. There were a few stations that started to play more current, popular "ROCK" music and they became known as the "Active Rock" stations. "Active" was the natural evolution from "AOR".

Back then, there was a BIG difference between "Rock" and "Alternative". But now, you can't even tell the difference. Anyway. I'd really like to know how you came to the conclusion that you quoted

-B
 
July 29th-Aug 4th


....LOUD ROCK
RANK ARTIST SONG WEEKS #1
1 ..Hinder .."Use Me"
2 ..Staind .."Believe"
3 ..Apocalytica .."I Don't Care
4 ..Slipknot .."Psychosocial" (2)
5 ..Jet Black Stare .."Ready To Roll"
6 ..Bullet For My Valentine .."Hearts Burst Into Fire"
7 ..Buckcherry .."Too Drunk"
8 ..Five Finger Death Punch .."Never Enough" (2)
9 ..Black Stone Cherry .."Blind Man"
10 ..Disturbed .."Inside The Fire" (3)
11 ..Sixx A.M. .."Tomorrow"
12 ..Pop Evil .."Hero"
13 ..Sevendust .."The Past"
14 ..Royal Bliss .."Save Me"
15 ..Linkin Park .."Leave Out All The Rest" (NEW)
16 ..Shinedown .."Devour" (3)
17 ..Metallica .."Remember Tomorrow"
18 ..Dragonforce .."Heroes Of Our Time"
19 ..P.O.D. .."Shine With Me"
20 ..Another Black Day .."Another Black Day" (NEW)
21 ..Motley Crue .."Saints Of Los Angeles" (1)
22 ..Anew Revoluation .."Done" (NEW)
23 ..Theory Of A Deadman .."Bad Girlfriend"
24 ..Black Tide .."Let Me"
25 ..12 Stones .."Adrenaline"
26 ..Atreyu .."Slow Burn"
27 ..Seether .."Rise Above This" (3)
28 ..Taproot .."Wherever I Stand" (NEW)
29 ..AlterBridge .."Before Tomorrow Comes"
30 ..Candlebox .."Stand"


List of Songs 98Rock-WJRR should play that are from many different charts such as Billboard,R@R,Metal Edge, European Rock, KHTQ,WJJO,KZRR and couple others. 98Rock suxs cause they need a harder edge with the current music that's out there in other citys outside of this market. Hardin is stuck in the 90s.
 
Just want to mention a couple good stations that play alot of Classic Hard Rock with New Rock.....


WHQG out of Milwaukee plays some New Rock in their top 20 but alot of bands from not only the 90s but alot of Hairbands.... they have been running a 5.2 share avg over the past year and latest was a 5.8.... no real great morning show... just good music. Company owned Saga corp.


KZRR out of Albuquerque is a simular station but maybe slightly more 80s classic rock.


Some of the best New Rock stations are WJJO-Madison and KHTQ-Spokane playing most New Hard Rock/classic Metal.
 
MDs uses soundscan to format their playlists? I know of soundscan and they/inform Billboard of the markets sales,etc but I never thought that works for a stations playlist.

I would rather keep my music playlist on what is current and play new music and play classics on what is requested the most. On soundscan, people in your market wont be picking up artists CDs,DVDS, etc if your not playing that music.....and if your not playing that music...soundscan will show its almost nonexisant.

So to say you wont play a rock band like "Airbourne" (just a example), they have/had 2 songs in the top 20 nationally, but your market wont play it on regular rotation cause Soundscan shows little if any sales in your market just dont make sense. It wont be sold in your market cause your not playing that band/song...DUH! If you play the band/song, people will catch on.

Rock music revenue is down, we all agree with that, I feel its cause of 3 main problems. 1 there are more outlets to listen to music and dL it on the internet instead of buying it. And 2nd, There are too many bands out there on too many record labels fighting for revenue that are signed. Instead of having 80 rock artists with singles out, maybe cut it back 25% so there is less to choose from. Finally I feel RockRadio needs to go 1 direction in music. If its active rock, put the 90s grunge scene underground with the hairbands and off the radio. If its Alternative or grunge, then do away with the active rock scene. Active Rock is running 3.6 compared to Alternative 2.4 nationally.. but I dont see them getting rid of 1 or the other.
 
Aug 4th-Aug10th


....LOUD ROCK
RANK ARTIST SONG WEEKS #1
1 ..Hinder .."Use Me" (2)
2 ..Staind .."Believe"
3 ..Buckcherry .."Too Drunk"
4 ..Slipknot .."Psychosocial" (2)
5 ..Apocalytica .."I Don't Care"
6 ..PoP Evil .."Hero"
7 ..Black Stone Cherry .."Blind Man"
8 ..Five Finger Death Punch .."Never Enough" (2)
9 ..Sevendust .."The Past"
10 ..Disturbed .."Inside The Fire" (3)
11 ..Sixx A.M. .."Tomorrow"
12 ..Jet Black Stare .."Ready To Roll"
13 ..Another Black Day .."Another Black Day"
14 ..Bullet For My Valentine .."Hearts Burst Into Fire"
15 ..P.O.D .."Shine With Me"
16 ..Shinedown .."Devour" (3)
17 ..Anew Revolution .."Done"
18 ..Dragonforce .."Heroes Of Our Time"
19 ..Linkin Park .."Leave Out All The Rest"
20 ..Drowning Pool .."37 Stiches" (NEW)
21 ..Royal Bliss .."Save Me"
22 ..Saving Abel .."18 Days" (NEW)
23 ..Theory Of A Deadman .."Bad Girlfriend"
24 ..In This Moment .."Forever" (NEW)
25 ..12 Stones .."Adrenaline"
26 ..Atreyu .."Slow Burn"
27 ..Seether .."Rise Above This" (3)
28 ..Black Tide .."Let Me"
29 ..AlterBridge .."Before Tomorrow Comes"
30 ..Metallica .."Remember Tomorrow"


List of Songs 98Rock-WJRR should play that are from many different charts such as Billboard,R@R,Metal Edge, European Rock, KHTQ,WJJO,KZRR and couple others. 98Rock suxs cause they need a harder edge with the current music that's out there in other citys outside of this market.MD based on Soundcast dont show real results cause if you dont play the band, it wont sell in your market. Hardin is stuck in the 90s.
 
I would love to see the revenue +/- of any radio station... (not just 98rock). Revenue at radio stations in general are on a decline recently due to a few good reasons. I'm wondering on a seperate issue if 98rock is meeting their expectations. Ratings are horrible, and I will keep posting these weekly countdowns until 98rock makes a change in Music and PD. Lex and Terry will probably stay for awhile, but shows are needed and updated music playlist to more current music (instead of 4-6months old songs)..
People in Tampa Bay Need a New Pure Hit Rock Station, Playing more New Active Rock Per Hour, Playing a few Hardrock Classics that you dont hear anymore(80s-early90s) and Great Shows that let the DJs get the listeners involved.


Aug 11th-Aug-18th


....LOUD ROCK
RANK ARTIST SONG WEEKS #1
1 ..Hinder .."Use Me" (3)
2 ..Staind .."Believe"
3 ..Buckcherry .."Too Drunk"
4 ..Slipknot .."Psychosocial" (2)
5 ..Black Stone Cherry .."Blind Man"
6 ..PoP Evil .."Hero"
7 ..Sevendust .."The Past"
8 ..Five Finger Death Punch .."Never Enough" (2)
9 ..Apocalyptica .."I Don't Care"
10 ..Another Black Day .."Another Black Day"
11 ..Sixx A.M. .."Tomorrow"
12 ..Dragonforce .."Heroes Of Our Time"
13 ..Another Black Day .."Another Black Day"
14 ..Bullet For My Valentine .."Hearts Burst Into Fire"
15 ..Drowning Pool .."37 Stiches"
16 ..Shinedown .."Devour" (3)
17 ..Anew Revolution .."Done"
18 ..In This Moment .."Forever"
19 ..Disturbed .."Indestructible" (NEW)
20 ..Motley Crue .."Saints Of Los Angeles" (2)
21 ..Royal Bliss .."Save Me"
22 ..Saving Abel .."18 Days"
23 ..Theory Of A Deadman .."Bad Girlfriend"
24 ..P.O.D. .."Shine With Me"
25 ..12 Stones .."Adrenaline"
26 ..Atreyu .."Slow Burn"
27 ..Seether .."Breakdown" (NEW)
28 ..Puddle Of Mud .."Livin' On Borrowed Time" (NEW)
29 ..Tesla .."I Wanna Live" (NEW)
30 ..Jet Black Stare .."Ready To Roll"


List of Songs 98Rock-WJRR should play that are from many different charts such as Billboard,R@R,Metal Edge, European Rock, KHTQ,WJJO,KZRR and couple others. 98Rock suxs cause they need a harder edge with the current music that's out there in other citys outside of this market.MD based on Soundcast dont show real results cause if you dont play the band, it wont sell in your market. Hardin is stuck in the 90s.
 
People in Tampa Bay Need a New Pure Hit Rock Station, Playing more New Active Rock Per Hour, Playing a few Hardrock Classics that you dont hear anymore(80s-early90s) and Great Shows that let the DJs get the listeners involved.

Aug 20th-Aug-27th


....LOUD ROCK
RANK ARTIST SONG WEEKS #1
1 ..Buckcherry .."Too Drunk"
2 ..Staind .."Believe"
3 ..Hinder .."Use Me" (3)
4 ..Slipknot .."Psychosocial" (2)
5 ..Black Stone Cherry .."Blind Man"
6 ..PoP Evil .."Hero"
7 ..Disturbed .."Indestructible"
8 ..Five Finger Death Punch .."Never Enough" (2)
9 ..Drowning Pool .."37 Stiches"
10 ..Metallica .."The Day That Never Comes" (NEW)
11 ..Another Black Day .."Another Black Day"
12 ..Dragonforce .."Heroes Of Our Time"
13 ..In This Moment .."Forever"
14 ..Bullet For My Valentine .."Hearts Burst Into Fire"
15 ..Ac/Dc .."Rock N' Roll Train" (NEW)
16 ..Sevendust .."The Past"
17 ..Anew Revolution .."Done"
18 ..Saving Abel .."18 Days"
19 ..Tesla .."I Wanna Live"
20 ..Shinedown .."Devour" (3)
21 ..Royal Bliss .."Save Me"
22 ..Puddle Of Mud .."Livin' On Borrowed Time"
23 ..Theory Of A Deadman .."Bad Girlfriend"
24 ..Seether .."Breakdown"
25 ..Sixx A.M. .."Tomorrow"
26 ..Apocolyptica .."I Don't Care"
27 ..P.O.D. .."Shine With Me"
28 ..Lipstick Magazine .."Against The Wall" (NEW)
29 ..Motley Crue .."Saints Of Los Angeles" (2)
30 ..Jet Black Stare .."Ready To Roll"


List of Songs 98Rock-WJRR should play that are from many different charts such as Billboard,R@R,Metal Edge, European Rock, KHTQ,WJJO,KZRR and couple others. 98Rock suxs cause they need a harder edge with the current music that's out there in other citys outside of this market.MD based on Soundcast dont show real results cause if you dont play the band, it wont sell in your market. Hardin is stuck in the 90s!
 
Listen Scott with all due respect why don't you come sown to the station so I can really explain this as simply as possible. I've tried when you reached out via myspace but I may as well be talking to my 4 year old cause you just don't want to listen. A 2.9 12+ does not mean mean anything brother. Any programmer on here will tell you that when you are drilling your demo which we are doing well right now. Especially in the newest trend in the month of July. I love your passion but seriously.....

R
 
I love you Big Rig...LOL Seriously, I think Big Rig is the best DJ on 98Rock and better than alot of DJs everywhere!, but Ronnie, your right, but,Give give the people what they want,More New Rock Music Per Hour- (for a active rock station) instead of the same crap songs that are overplayed nonstop, get out of the grunge scene (like the rest of the country has) and play some tunes now and then that you dont hear anymore that was big back in the early days of 98rock, hairbands-metal-whatever. There are sooo many Rock bands that are on the top 30 list above that are doing well nationally that aren't being play by 98rock. We dont want to hear the excuses of it not doing well here now or in the past cause its not Pushed Here!. You said to me on myspace that Mayhem was a bad turnout here. Well it was not only a workday (tuesday) but also most dont know bands like Dragonforce, Blacktide,Airbourne cause 98Rock dont play them, but at the same time, are well known nationally cause they are on regular rotation in alot of markets. Anyways I still love ya Big Rig ( not in a gay way..lol)
 
People in Tampa Bay Need a New Pure Hit Rock Station, Playing more New Active Rock Per Hour, Playing a few Hardrock Classics that you dont hear anymore(80s-early90s) and Great Shows that let the DJs get the listeners involved.

Aug 27th-Sept 4th


....LOUD ROCK
RANK ARTIST SONG WEEKS #1
1 ..Metallica .."The Day That Never Comes"
2 ..Buckcherry .."Too Drunk"(1)
3 ..Hinder .."Use Me" (3)
4 ..Staind .."Believe"
5 ..Slipknot .."Psychosocial" (2)
6 ..Black Stone Cherry .."Blind Man"
7 ..Sevendust .."The Past"
8 ..Disturbed .."Indestructible"
9 ..Five Finger Death Punch .."Never Enough" (2)
10 ..Drowning Pool .."37 Stiches"
11 ..Another Black Day .."Another Black Day"
12 ..Saving Abel .."18 Days"
13 ..Ac/Dc .."Rock-N-Roll Train"
14 ..In This Moment .."Forever"
15 ..Bullet For My Valentine .."Hearts Burst Into Fire"
16 ..Dragonforce .."Heroes Of Our Time"
17 ..Apocolyptica .."I Don't Care"
18 ..Puddle Of Mud .."Livin' On Borrowed Time"
19 ..Shinedown .."Second Chance" (NEW)
20 ..Tesla .."I Wanna Live"
21 ..Motley Crue .."Murther F'ker Of The Year" (New Re-entry)
22 ..Seether .."Breakdown"
23 ..Pop Evil .."Hero"
24 ..Theory Of A Deadman .."Bad Girlfriend"
25 ..Anew Revolution .."Done"
26 ..Sixx A.M. .."Tomorrow"
27 ..Royal Bliss .."Save Me"
28 ..Shinedown .."Devour" (3)
29 ..Lipstick Magazine .."Against The Wall"
30 ..Rev Theory .."Hell Ya" (New Re-entry)


List of Songs 98Rock-WJRR should play that are from many different charts such as Billboard,R@R,Metal Edge, European Rock, KHTQ,WJJO,KZRR and couple others. 98Rock suxs cause they need a harder edge with the current music that's out there in other citys outside of this market.MD based on Soundcast dont show real results cause if you dont play the band, it wont sell in your market. Hardin is stuck in the 90s
 
Scott... let the topic die man. Seriously. Posting the latest "loud rock" chart on a radio message board like this isn't gonna change things. Face it... whatever you think of 98 Rock or even what Big Rig says isn't gonna satisfy you. Do yourself a favor... get an XM or Sirius receiver and fire up some Liquid Metal or Octane. You like that music and that's cool... but banging the message board with the latest charts isn't gonna change the format direction of 97.9.

And as a side note to Big Rig... I admire your passion and respect your work... and as far as ratings go the last few years, I really feel sorry for you and the guys at WXTB. But face the facts man... it aint what it used to be and things are not getting better fast or enough. You're one of the good guys. And as bright of a future you might paint here in this thread, we all know it's not gonna get much better. Here's hoping you find a good place to continue your work or at least a place somewhere in the cluster to use your skills.
 
that's what I love about this board...the NEGATIVE :). The old saying goes.."if you think you're dead..you are". I love the fact everyone keeps counting us out. We had the chance to turd out this last trend. We did not and put in double digit numbers 18-34 and we were way up 25-54 for the month. When we roll off that turd from May I think things will look a lot different on the 19th of September ;-). We are a great radio station that regardless of what a few might think is still pounding @ the rock and still will.
However I know all of the haters here will continue to pound and bitch about us so knock yourselves out LOL. It's when you talk of us no more I will worry......well not really :-*

r
 
BIGRIGGER said:
that's what I love about this board...the NEGATIVE :). The old saying goes.."if you think you're dead..you are". I love the fact everyone keeps counting us out. We had the chance to turd out this last trend. We did not and put in double digit numbers 18-34 and we were way up 25-54 for the month. When we roll off that turd from May I think things will look a lot different on the 19th of September ;-). We are a great radio station that regardless of what a few might think is still pounding @ the rock and still will.
However I know all of the haters here will continue to pound and bitch about us so knock yourselves out LOL. It's when you talk of us no more I will worry......well not really :-*

r

Listen bill, We all know you love that Alternative Nerd Crap and the Classic Redneck Rock of the 70s, if you dont like the topic then dont read it or post. I get PMs you know that say they like my ideas and post but dont want to start crap on the message board. When I stop posting on this thread, it will be when I'm bored with it and when a idiot like you dont tell me to not keep going. I know its not going to change 98rocks direction, its just the point of 98rock should be killing us with New Music thats being played nationwide.

also sorry Big Rig but I have to LMFAO @ you saying 98rock is "Pounding The Rock" 98Rock hasn't pounded the Rock in years. And yeah 98rock was still great in the grunge era cause that music was in..., well Active Rock is in now and its hardly played, alot of local listeners dont know alot of the bands that are being played to death nationwide cause it's not pushed here, and listen up and tell your MD/PD this, YOU DONT BEAT 97X BY PLAYING THEIR ALTERNATIVE MUSIC, YOU BEAT THEM WITH PLAYING MORE 'NEW ROCK PER HOUR' OF A 'ACTIVE ROCK FORMAT' afterall 97x ratings are a meager .1-.2 only ahead of you guys @ 98Rock. Active Rock and Metal is in today, And listen up, ratings do count more than what you say.
 
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