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99.9 Hank FM Tallahassee singal

I'm guessing WNFI/99.9 and WOOF/99.7 were the reasons the Tallahassee 99.9 was limited to 50kW when it was built. Even so, there was interference with WNFI as you went north of Gainesville. The WNFI signal was an absolute monster. Before 99.9 went on in Tally, I could carry WNFI almost to Tally on a car radio.
 
The was no doubt about it that WNFY / WNFI 99.9 Palatka - Daytona Beach had a monster signal. I remember back in the early and mid 80s that station could be heard over virtually the entire state. I often wondered what affect 99.9 Daytona may have had on the newer 99.9 Tallahassee.
 
level42 said:
Yes, it was the Live Oak station that was preventing us from going back to 50kw omni in Wacissa. Kind of a shame...since the Wacissa tower still has the antenna and feedline on it...and is in pretty good shape overall. Would love to see another station back on that tower. Right now, it's just holding a 2 meter ham repeater.
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Couldn't the WANK licensee propose a frequency move (provided a suitable substitute channel is available) for the Live Oak 100.1 "A" vacant channel making it possible for 99.9 to move back to its former tower at the full 50kw omni directional?
 
That big stick in Espinola, Florida blanketed the state. From West Palm to Savannah to Destin. we had it nailed. I used to clean out that site. Cleanest transmitter site you'd ever find.
 
I lived in Tallahassee in 97-98 when 99.9 was 50kW from Wacissa. Very bad signal. Couldn't get inside most downtown office buildings, and it also had multipath problems on the east side. I'm sure the area around I-10 and Meridian was bad as well with the overload.

It's funny we're discussing this, because I remember a thread many moons ago on here about 99.9's bad signal and whether they would be better off as a class A. Their choice was a big signal that's hard to hear in the city or a small signal that covers the most important part of the market. Seems like their only hope for improvement is if there's a spot that a B1 would work or sending WOOF a truckload of cash.

IMHO, the best FM facility in Tallahassee is WGLF. No problems with building penetration and a huge signal.
 
Neil Griffin said:
I lived in Tallahassee in 97-98 when 99.9 was 50kW from Wacissa. Very bad signal. Couldn't get inside most downtown office buildings, and it also had multipath problems on the east side. I'm sure the area around I-10 and Meridian was bad as well with the overload.
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That sounds like bad engineering, plain & simple.

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WGLF always had/has a great signal. Back in the day, I could get them loud and clear in Lake City, close to Gainesville. Still Tally's Rock Station?
 
I have no dog in this fight, but Hernando & Citrus County now have talk WXJB 99.9 (6 kW?)....this might have affected the Tallahassee grading.

Was in Tampa/Clearwater about 4 weeks ago, and noticed on my FM car radio two Tallahassee-area stations audible: 102.3 & 103.1. Not living there, I wonder if the former 99.9 with the bigger signal for Tallahassee made it across the Gulf often into TB.

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WXJB has no effect on anything in Tallahassee as it is too far away. It is the new class A channel assignment on second adjacent 100.1 in Live Oak that is the reason WANK cannot return to 50kw omni-directional from the former tower site. I'm sure a C3 operation (C3 and B1 are the same in power and antenna height, however class B's are only assigned in the Northeast, Southern California, the San Francisco Bay area, the U. S. Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico. All other places, known as Zone III, are assigned class C's and its sub classes C0, C1, C2 and C3) may be possible for WANK; However, I'm not sure any gain will be realized over Tallahassee proper since, most likely, the tower would need to be moved outside of town which defeats the purpose behind the upgrade in the first place.
 
Neil Griffin said:
IMHO, the best FM facility in Tallahassee is WGLF. No problems with building penetration and a huge signal.
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WGLF has, by far, the best FM signal of all the other Tallahassee FM signals. I can hear it in Gainesville, Cedar Key, Lake City and Live Oak with no problem. I cannot, however, hear it in Ocala as co-channel WTKS Cocoa Beach - Orlando has a strong signel in Marion County.
 
Thanks... I meant C3. :)

As for tropo between Tallahassee and Tampa, I had a friend that lived in Pacso County during the 80's and remembers hearing WJAD 97.3 from Bainbridge, GA. During the summer I lived in Tallahassee, WMNF 88.5 and WHPT 102.5 were in about as much as they were out. It's probably less noticeable these days with all of the newer stations blocking what used to be open channels.

Getting back to 99.9, how is it doing ratings-wise? I'm sure it's cheap to run since it is basically a jukebox (or was all of the years in lived in that region).
 
Neil: 99.9 ranked 10th during the last ratings, which was done by Nielsen, with a share in the mid 2 neighborhood.

Vadar: Yes, WGLF is still the rock station, and still is branded as Gulf 104. It is part of the Cumulus cluster.
 
Before 104.1/Cocoa Beach moved to the Bithlo antenna farm, WGLF was listenable on car radios in Ocala on most days. Before 104.1/Atmore, AL upgraded and moved into Mobile, you could carry WGLF as far west as Walton County. Now, of course, it suffers from having a move-in, drop-in, shoehorn-in, or translator restrict it's range in every direction. It's also been downgraded to Class C0, just barely missing the new Class C minimum height by something like 20 meters.
 
WTKS moved to the Bithlo tower farm in 1984 as WSSP, so it has been 100kw at 1,600+ feet for the past 26-years. However, there were times I have heard WGLF override WTKS in Ocala. Interstingly, before WGLF upgraded to its present tower, Gulf 104 was a very good Top 40 station flipping to AOR, I believe, sometime in the 1980s.
 
Do these "Hank, Jack and Alice" formats work? "We play anything/everything", seriously, do they make a difference, are they significant in any market?
 
jmtillery said:
WTKS moved to the Bithlo tower farm in 1984 as WSSP, so it has been 100kw at 1,600+ feet for the past 26-years. However, there were times I have heard WGLF override WTKS in Ocala. Interstingly, before WGLF upgraded to its present tower, Gulf 104 was a very good Top 40 station flipping to AOR, I believe, sometime in the 1980s.
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Were they a full 100kW when they were WSSP? Seems to me they were a lot stronger in Ocala after Press bought them and they became "Real Radio 104.1." Maybe not, though (?)

WGLF will override WTKS pretty easily in Ocala if there's any sort of opening to the north. Same with WTNT taking over 94.9 from Tampa.
 
vadar said:
Do these "Hank, Jack and Alice" formats work? "We play anything/everything", seriously, do they make a difference, are they significant in any market?
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The new moniker of the future is Elmo Radio coming to a market near you.
 
Elmo radio is sure to be full of giggles:)
 
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