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990 AM

I was driving tonight and thought, what the hey....let's see how the WALE is doing.....I switch over to 990 and damn it...there was something there.....unfotunately for radiowaves, it was WLGZ out of Rochester NY coming in loud & clear.....got to love those night patterns! Heard a jingle and Roberta Flack "Killing Me Softly" before I got home
 
I'll never forgive radiowavesri for building peoples' hopes up. I even dropped off an aircheck & production samples at the Manton Avenue Wendy's drive-up window.
 
WLGZ's night pattern is pointed right at Providence. It has 6 towers with 2500 watts day and night. I'd hear it on the air monitor when the then WEAN 990 was 500 watts at night.

Dave Gardiner

WVCH 740/WNWR 1540

Philadelphia
 
I would like to see time run out and someone try to move the towers to North Providence.
Any chance of a big company Greaater Media,Entercom etc. do a signal test to see if it can be done.
If my memory serves me correctly 750 am in Providence is available but I think that would be like a current 990. 5 or 6 towers directional and a pain in the A$$ to get off the ground and maintain.Reason why nobody is jumping on it.
 
kenwood101 said:
I would like to see time run out and someone try to move the towers to North Providence.
Any chance of a big company Greaater Media,Entercom etc. do a signal test to see if it can be done.
If my memory serves me correctly 750 am in Providence is available but I think that would be like a current 990. 5 or 6 towers directional and a pain in the A$$ to get off the ground and maintain.Reason why nobody is jumping on it.

With the state of radio in Providence, why would a big company bother? Entercom is currently entrenched w/ WEEI FM and with the PRO AM Juggernaught, what is left to bring into the market at a sizeable cost for startup...
 
Assuming for a moment that a willing buyer is out there for 990 (preferably a responsible, community minded one)......What exactly ARE the rules and regs regarding the sale of a silent broadcast property?

Would Peter Arpin & friends / cronies / whomever need to get the place back up and running before selling off?

It feels as though this 990 soap opera has been running longer than "The Guiding Light"......only without the money and power of Procter & Gamble behind it......LOL.

As for the suggestion about the vacant frequency at 750 here in the area......Wouldn't Alex Langer / Langer Broadcasting have already snapped that up if they thought it would be more feasable than the current CP for 1140 for Greenville?

Now that I think of it......1140 in Greenville......yet another possibility for a 990 diplex??

DR
 
1140 would be a possibilty, but again the towers would be electrically short on 990. Short towers usually don't radiate as well towers of at least 1/4 wavelength.You'd get optimal results if the towers were between180-200 electrical degrees high at the operating frequency.For 990, this would mean towers about 491 ft high for a half wave, and 545 ft high for 200 deg. towers. As for 750, the pattern would be tight for 3 reasons:protecting stations the 2 adjacent frequencies(CHWO 740 and WJR 760)and cochannel protection of WSB 750. I think that CBGY-750 in Newfoundland would need protection as well. 750 could be run nondirectional as a 250 watt daytimer, or perhaps with higher power, using 250 watts during critical hours.

Dave Gardiner

WVCH 740/WNWR 1540

Philadelphia
 
Re: What frequencies are available in Rhode Island?

750 AM-I believe but has to be really directional. So that's out.
990 AM It's current status or a possible move to North Providence
1140 AM-Greenville
1370 AM just approved for Charlestown. The FCC says yes but the Town will say no.

I am not sure of any FM's even at LP status.

Correct me if I am wrong or any other possibilities....
 
Re: What frequencies are available in Rhode Island?

kenwood101 said:
750 AM-I believe but has to be really directional. So that's out.
990 AM It's current status or a possible move to North Providence
1140 AM-Greenville
1370 AM just approved for Charlestown. The FCC says yes but the Town will say no.

I am not sure of any FM's even at LP status.

Correct me if I am wrong or any other possibilities....

From my days at RIC and looking to grab 88.1, there were no other non comm frequencies avail b/c of coverage from eastern CT and MA with the stations at UMD, Dean, Emerson, Endicott, etc along w/ the juggernaugt that is GBH...the frequ3ency deviations were just too close....and I am pretty sure (again, almost 20 yrs memory now) the comm band was chock full, too.....
 
Re: What frequencies are available in Rhode Island?

wknd92 said:
kenwood101 said:
750 AM-I believe but has to be really directional. So that's out.
990 AM It's current status or a possible move to North Providence
1140 AM-Greenville
1370 AM just approved for Charlestown. The FCC says yes but the Town will say no.

I am not sure of any FM's even at LP status.

Correct me if I am wrong or any other possibilities....

From my days at RIC and looking to grab 88.1, there were no other non comm frequencies avail b/c of coverage from eastern CT and MA with the stations at UMD, Dean, Emerson, Endicott, etc along w/ the juggernaugt that is GBH...the frequ3ency deviations were just too close....and I am pretty sure (again, almost 20 yrs memory now) the comm band was chock full, too.....

Maybe the time has come for the FCC to consider granting non-comm licenses in the expanded AM band. After all, commercial broadcasters don't seem to be making much use of it anyway. This way, Rhode Island College could finally get on the air.

Either that, or the owner/s of 990 could always decide to donate the station to the school as a tax write-off......NO......WAIT......I wouldn't wish that sort of curse on a good school like RIC...LOL...LOL.

DR
 
Re: What frequencies are available in Rhode Island?

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Either that, or the owner/s of 990 could always decide to donate the station to the school as a tax write-off......NO......WAIT......I wouldn't wish that sort of curse on a good school like RIC...LOL...LOL.

DR

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Donating 990 AM to School is probably the best idea yet for the station if you think about.
Engineers learning the trade it would be a great tool and a class that is learning to do newscasts and learning sales.
I think that is a great idea.
 
kenwood101 said:
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Either that, or the owner/s of 990 could always decide to donate the station to the school as a tax write-off......NO......WAIT......I wouldn't wish that sort of curse on a good school like RIC...LOL...LOL.

DR
Donating 990 AM to School is probably the best idea yet for the station if you think about.
Engineers learning the trade it would be a great tool and a class that is learning to do newscasts and learning sales.


Ken:

Getting serious for a minute. I acutally DO LIKE the idea of 990 getting donated to Rhode Island College to be used as a training ground for future broadcasters, sales people, etc...etc...

Unfortunately, if you look at just how STUPIDLY and INEPTLY Peter Arpin & Cronies are running thier other radio station (WARL 1320)......I have no confidence that this ownership would actually do something that would make some sense.

DR
I think that is a great idea.
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Ken:

Getting serious for a minute. I acutally DO LIKE the idea of 990 getting donated to Rhode Island College to be used as a training ground for future broadcasters, sales people, etc...etc...

Unfortunately, if you look at just how STUPIDLY and INEPTLY Peter Arpin & Cronies are running thier other radio station (WARL 1320)......I have no confidence that this ownership would actually do something that would make some sense.

DR
I think that is a great idea.
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I just find it amazing that people who own stations sometimes have no clue on what to do with them.
I can't believe they would rather let the license expire than donate it.
I can almost predict what is going to happen.
In December WALE will play a continuous loop of automation for about a month.just long enough to keep the license active.
 
I can almost predict what is going to happen.
In December WALE will play a continuous loop of automation for about a month.just long enough to keep the license active.
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Stop giving them ideas! ;)
 
first of all i agree with all the post and i am not sucking up the station ran into long and dragged out .complicated and tiring negotiations that a team of legal attorneys are sorting out .but new ownership in almost completed and big ange and company is ready and like i said before arlene is also part of the team i must admit this boards replys are most talented when they are bashing radiowavesri .ps i do miss you guys should be on air in 30-60 days should be..........
 
radiowavesri said:
first of all i agree with all the post and i am not sucking up the station ran into long and dragged out .complicated and tiring negotiations that a team of legal attorneys are sorting out .but new ownership in almost completed and big ange and company is ready and like i said before arlene is also part of the team i must admit this boards replys are most talented when they are bashing radiowavesri .ps i do miss you guys should be on air in 30-60 days should be..........

Although I was born in Massachusetts, you might say I'm "from Missouri" on this one. I'll actually believe this latest load of "stuff" when I turn on my GE Superadio 2, and find something on 990 besides "Legends 990" from Rochester, or the sports station from Montreal.

Whatever Peter Arpin & company decide to do, they had better do it quickly.

TICK-TOCK......TICK-TOCK......TICK-TOCK......TICK-TOCK......TICK-TOCK......TICK-TOCK......

DR
 
radiowavesri said:
first of all i agree with all the post and i am not sucking up the station ran into long and dragged out .complicated and tiring negotiations that a team of legal attorneys are sorting out .but new ownership in almost completed and big ange and company is ready and like i said before arlene is also part of the team i must admit this boards replys are most talented when they are bashing radiowavesri .ps i do miss you guys should be on air in 30-60 days should be..........

Why do I have the clock from "24" running thru my head?

Who owns/uses the towers in the pond behind Shaws on Admiral St/Smithfield Rd on the Prov/N Prov line (also runs off of Douglas). If I remember...it was WRNI or something like that; but the building on Douglas doesn't have call letters on it and there are never cars in the lot (except for the N Prov cops speed trap)...are they even in service (are they the sticks for Poder radio?)
 
Poder's would be the old WHIM ones in East Providence near the WHJJ towers. I don't know if the ones off Douglas Avenue are in use but I assume the building is a transmitter site for WRNI (1290) which once was WICE. I remember as a tyke I'd see that building on Douglas & think there was actually a DJ in there doing a show. I was a naive tyke.
 
Runrigger is right. The North Providence site is that of WRNI. 990 would would have a very solid signal from there, even at 10 kW.


Dave Gardiner

WVCH 740/WNWR 1540

Philadelphia
 
DG02816 said:
Runrigger is right. The North Providence site is that of WRNI. 990 would would have a very solid signal from there, even at 10 kW.

Dave Gardiner

WVCH 740/WNWR 1540

Philadelphia

Dave:

That Douglas Avenue 1290 site is very likely the best solution that 990 could hope for as an alternative to staying at the PCB dump...OOPS...I mean Burrillville site.

However, if the supposed reputation of cheapness on the part of the 990/1320 ownership is true, they may be unwilling to pay the sort of lease/rent/fee that would be asked of them by Ocean State Public Radio/1290 for such a move to happen.

Which brings me back to the 990/1320 diplex idea. Certainly not the best soulution, but (because of the co-ownership) perhaps the only diplex idea that this ownership might actually consider.

DR
 
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