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A Change Coming to KGO

Metromedia did not make KEWB all news. It was topical talk from those beautiful studios on Jack London Square in Oakland. But the format only lasted 3 years, going to standards, IIRC, in 1969.
In those days I did not distinguish between news and talk radio. I never listened to KEWB again after they flipped from Top-40. Got a couple of air checks of them around here somewhere though.

I left the Bay Area in 1968 so wasn't around for the subsequent flip to Standards.
 
That theory has been debunked by a lot of people. The 87 repeal was part of a massive deregulation move made by the Reagan Administration, so some attribute the rise of conservative talk to Reagan. But all he wanted to do is eliminate FCC rules to cut the size of government. At the time there was a wide variety of talk hosts covering the full spectrum. What made conservative talk so big was Rush Limbaugh and others like him who simply killed the other more traditional hosts in the ratings. It wasn't about their politics as much as their presentation. Larry King moved to the daytime to bring other points of view to daytime talk, and he got killed. Same with KABC's Michael Jackson. Rush was a former rock DJ and his presentation was edgier and more aggressive than older hosts. One of the few local hosts who could compete was Tom Leykis.
Joe Pyne, Gary Dee (Gilbert) and Morton Downey, Jr. immediately come to mind as abrasive right-leaning talk hosts that were big in the 1970s. Dee was in the top five at WHK for years, which was impressive as the station was AM in a market quickly turning into a predominantly FM one. Downey toiled at KFBK before Rush replaced him in 1984.

The person who helped Rush get syndicated? None other than former KGO exec Ed McLaughlin.
 
That is the first that I ever heard that. KGO to me was never a "left wing" station; it was a San Francisco centrist format with a talent array that included some a bit to the left of center and some that were pretty solid centrists. And several of the best knew how to present all perspectives to make things more interesting.

Of course, in the last 8 to 10 years nearly nobody was listening to KGO, so there was very little commentary even in the market about its programming.
I have been assured my political choices are limited to worship of TFG (or maybe DeSantis) or being a radical leftist socialist, so anything KGO aired that was not hard right, was Communism.
 
That theory has been debunked by a lot of people. The 87 repeal was part of a massive deregulation move made by the Reagan Administration, so some attribute the rise of conservative talk to Reagan. But all he wanted to do is eliminate FCC rules to cut the size of government. At the time there was a wide variety of talk hosts covering the full spectrum. What made conservative talk so big was Rush Limbaugh and others like him who simply killed the other more traditional hosts in the ratings. It wasn't about their politics as much as their presentation. Larry King moved to the daytime to bring other points of view to daytime talk, and he got killed. Same with KABC's Michael Jackson. Rush was a former rock DJ and his presentation was edgier and more aggressive than older hosts. One of the few local hosts who could compete was Tom Leykis.
Leykis handled the liberal side of the argument pretty well when he was doing politics.

There is so much misinformation and revisionist history about the Fairness Doctrine that it's ridiculous. People think it applied to newspapers, it was there to "prevent news anchors and reporters from lying", and it would have prevented conservative talk radio, conservative websites and the Fox News channel. I don't remember any FCC guys around any of my stations marking news stories with a red pen.
 
Leykis handled the liberal side of the argument pretty well when he was doing politics.

There is so much misinformation and revisionist history about the Fairness Doctrine that it's ridiculous. People think it applied to newspapers, it was there to "prevent news anchors and reporters from lying", and it would have prevented conservative talk radio, conservative websites and the Fox News channel. I don't remember any FCC guys around any of my stations marking news stories with a red pen.
Nor ever checking up on any of the four newspapers I worked for!
 
That is the first that I ever heard that. KGO to me was never a "left wing" station; it was a San Francisco centrist format with a talent array that included some a bit to the left of center and some that were pretty solid centrists. And several of the best knew how to present all perspectives to make things more interesting.

Of course, in the last 8 to 10 years nearly nobody was listening to KGO, so there was very little commentary even in the market about its programming.
You're right...only folks from out of the market who have never listened to KGO would have called it a "left wing" station. As I have said on another thread, KGO was probably the most balanced news talk station ever: All news and traffic with Jim Dunbar & Co from 5am to 9am, Ronn Owens (lib) from 9am to 12N. Dr Dean Edell Noon to 1pm, Jim Eason (con) 1pm to 4pm. All News and traffic with Van Amburg & Co. from 4pm to 7pm, Lee Rogers (con) 7pm to 10pm, Dr Michael Krasny (lib) 10pm to 1 am, and Ray Taliaferrow (lib) 1am to 5am. This was KGOs hayday and a truly great station.
 
You're right...only folks from out of the market who have never listened to KGO would have called it a "left wing" station. As I have said on another thread, KGO was probably the most balanced news talk station ever: All news and traffic with Jim Dunbar & Co from 5am to 9am, Ronn Owens (lib) from 9am to 12N. Dr Dean Edell Noon to 1pm, Jim Eason (con) 1pm to 4pm. All News and traffic with Van Amburg & Co. from 4pm to 7pm, Lee Rogers (con) 7pm to 10pm, Dr Michael Krasny (lib) 10pm to 1 am, and Ray Taliaferrow (lib) 1am to 5am. This was KGOs hayday and a truly great station.
I don’t recall Van Amburg ever being on KGO radio. He went from KFRC to KNEW to KGO-TV. And I don’t believe KGO radio regularly simulcast channel 7.
 
I don’t recall Van Amburg ever being on KGO radio. He went from KFRC to KNEW to KGO-TV. And I don’t believe KGO radio regularly simulcast channel 7.
Mr. Hagerty, you're probably right, come to think it. I must have had ch 7 on the brain, I don't think I remember the afternoon news anchor, maybe someone can refresh my memory.
 
Found a 1
Mr. Hagerty, you're probably right, come to think it. I must have had ch 7 on the brain, I don't think I remember the afternoon news anchor, maybe someone can refresh my memory.
Found this:

KGO Radio: 1980

5-9 AM: "Morning News" with Jim Dunbar and Ted Wygant

9-Noon: Owen Spann

Noon News: Ted Wygant

1-4 PM: Jim Eason

4-6 PM "Afternoon News" with Ed Baxter and Jan Black

6- 9 PM: Ronn Owens

9- Midnight: Russ Coughlan

Midnight-5 AM: Ray Taliaferro

As with any station, those schedules will vary over the years.
 
Found a 1

Found this:

KGO Radio: 1980

5-9 AM: "Morning News" with Jim Dunbar and Ted Wygant

9-Noon: Owen Spann

Noon News: Ted Wygant

1-4 PM: Jim Eason

4-6 PM "Afternoon News" with Ed Baxter and Jan Black

6- 9 PM: Ronn Owens

9- Midnight: Russ Coughlan

Midnight-5 AM: Ray Taliaferro

As with any station, those schedules will vary over the years.
My line-up was several years after this one. I do remember that Rosie Allen was part of the afternoon news team.
 
I know this format is dead on AM, but maybe someone, somewhere, who has enough money and time to spend without needing any immediate return on that investment can create something approximating this format on FM?

Oh, wait, NPR (via KQED) already does that, doesn't it?

It's just not the same, though.... I'm talking about something that has a local personality somewhat like what KGO had in its golden age.

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I know this format is dead on AM, but maybe someone, somewhere, who has enough money and time to spend without needing any immediate return on that investment can create something approximating this format on FM?

There are a lot of rich people in the bay area. But most of them made their money in tech, and so any kind of media they do will be using the internet. For example Elon Musk. If he spent 1% of the money in his twitter budget instead on a radio station, it wouldn't need advertising. But he would never spend his money on radio. He likely doesn't even know it exists.
 
There are a lot of rich people in the bay area.
Yeah, no kidding. They're driving out everyone else around here!

But most of them made their money in tech, and so any kind of media they do will be using the internet.
Right. Of course whatever my hypothetical idea would be, it would have an internet presence in the form of a live stream of the FM signal (plus of course social media presence and all of that). Anything that strictly stays with old technology (which, sadly, analog radio is) tends to get mercilessly destroyed, particularly around here.

For example Elon Musk. If he spent 1% of the money in his twitter budget instead on a radio station, it wouldn't need advertising.
If he spent 1% of his Twitter budget money on humanitarian concerns, he could completely end poverty for every living person! Will he?

But he would never spend his money on radio. He likely doesn't even know it exists.
Probably not. To be honest (and quite blunt), I think he's a jerk who only cares about himself and his grandiose visions of whatever it is he wants to accomplish (not all of his ideas are bad (EVs), it's the execution of said ideas (EVs with faulty and errorprone driver assist features named "Autopilot" or "Full Self Driving") I disagree with. He won't spend money on anything unless it directly benefits him somehow (radio likely wouldn't, nor would ending poverty, it seems). How else does he end up with so much of it?

I think it's partially because of people like him that there's such a huge rich/poor divide.

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Joe Pyne, Gary Dee (Gilbert) and Morton Downey, Jr. immediately come to mind as abrasive right-leaning talk hosts that were big in the 1970s. Dee was in the top five at WHK for years, which was impressive as the station was AM in a market quickly turning into a predominantly FM one. Downey toiled at KFBK before Rush replaced him in 1984.

The person who helped Rush get syndicated? None other than former KGO exec Ed McLaughlin.
If he hadn't of punched his wife in the face [Liz Richards] who knows how long he would have been on the air in Cleveland. Never really cared for him, liked Lanigan more.
 
Is it weird that they are not moving KSFO to the strong 810? Or is the real world difference of 560 and 810 not really that much?
With the lower dial position 560 might actually be better locally. It doesn't show up on any coverage maps but I personally always had a tough time with KGO in the east bay and near by valley towns like Tracy at night.
 
If he hadn't of punched his wife in the face [Liz Richards] who knows how long he would have been on the air in Cleveland. Never really cared for him, liked Lanigan more.
John Lanigan’s another great example although his humor was always more ribaldry-centered. Dee tried a comeback on 3WE in 1988 but got swept up in indecency allegations filed against that station.
 
With the lower dial position 560 might actually be better locally. It doesn't show up on any coverage maps but I personally always had a tough time with KGO in the east bay and near by valley towns like Tracy at night.
5kw at 560 vs 50kw at 810. KGO’s stronger. What you’re experiencing are different nighttime patterns, though I don’t understand East Bay reception issues for KGO. I’ve driven to Reno with KGO on.
 
John Lanigan’s another great example although his humor was always more ribaldry-centered.

I actually wrote some jokes for Lanigan at one point. He was always nice to me. His stuff tended to be more double-entendre type stuff. Like "Did you hear about the mean little male bubble chasing the cute little female bubble around the tub? Seems he wanted to watch her bust."
 
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