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A disheartening DX story

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purpledevil

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My 18 year old son asked me a question that broke my heart and got me to thinking. I was scanning around the dial while sitting out in our car yesterday evening. He asked me why I was doing what I was doing and I told him and explained why I did, and the excitement that comes with hearing a station from far away make an appearance on your local dial. His response was "Dad, you know our phones will tune to all kinds of radio stations from anywhere you want, don't you?" I said that I knew, but this is different. Then he says, "I see that. You're listening to static, and my phone doesn't have that." Wow. I guess I just never realized that we DX'ers are slowly fading away. Our kids' generation will never understand why we do what we do and that is painful to realize as an enthusiast.
 
You COULD NOT have stated this better. Today's youth does not understand the excitement of pulling in DX. As a ham radio operator, I remain fascinated with the fact that I can talk to other people with a similar interest through the "magic of radio" using equipment in my own home and antennas in my backyard. Radio remains "magic" to me ....after all these years ....static and all !!!
 
Funny, even though there are a bunch of audio services I can listen to on my desktop PC, every time I've tried to listen to a radio station stream on a smart phone, all I get is a screen warning "THIS CONTENT IS NOT AVAILABLE IN YOUR LOCATION: MOBILE DEVICE" :mad:

The question the kid posed is nothing new. I was asked the same question while DXing AM and TV in the 1970's.
The way I see it, why buy fishing rods, tackle and bait, then charter a yacht to take you out to the lake, when you can go to the local supermarket and grab a yellow box marked "Gorton's" from a freezer!
 
1L6E6VHF said:
Funny, even though there are a bunch of audio services I can listen to on my desktop PC, every time I've tried to listen to a radio station stream on a smart phone, all I get is a screen warning "THIS CONTENT IS NOT AVAILABLE IN YOUR LOCATION: MOBILE DEVICE" :mad:

The question the kid posed is nothing new. I was asked the same question while DXing AM and TV in the 1970's.
The way I see it, why buy fishing rods, tackle and bait, then charter a yacht to take you out to the lake, when you can go to the local supermarket and grab a yellow box marked "Gorton's" from a freezer!

You're right--my parents & then my wife used to ask me, "why do you listen to all that static?"
At least they knew that at that time there was no other way to listen to distant stations.
 
Time marches on.

It's my belief that the death of AM analog radio is coming sooner than most of us can imagine, and that is the main reason I have not bought an SDR.

Remember model railroading? When was the last time you heard of a father (if one is around) giving his son a train set for Christmas? The average age of the model railroader is old, and getting older.

Two different things, but in both cases, the younger generation has no interest.
 
1L6E6VHF said:
Funny, even though there are a bunch of audio services I can listen to on my desktop PC, every time I've tried to listen to a radio station stream on a smart phone, all I get is a screen warning "THIS CONTENT IS NOT AVAILABLE IN YOUR LOCATION: MOBILE DEVICE" :mad:

The question the kid posed is nothing new. I was asked the same question while DXing AM and TV in the 1970's.
The way I see it, why buy fishing rods, tackle and bait, then charter a yacht to take you out to the lake, when you can go to the local supermarket and grab a yellow box marked "Gorton's" from a freezer!

+1.

It doesn't bother me that most people "don't get it" about DXing. If you try to explain, you normally get a blank square. Well...so what. It's my fun, and I don't get needlepoint or numerous other passtimes/hobbies myself. But I've never heard anyone...including my wife...knock DXing either. At least as long as I don't disturb her with it. Different strokes for different folks.

Then there are those gratifying moments. Such as my wife's brother....who started as a DXer. Then ham. Then owner of a rep firm that supplies two-way radios to police/fire/hospitals, etc. in a multi-state area.

Then there's my daughter....whom I've posted about in other threads. Her being able to speak several languages (ranging from "fluent" to getting by) began when I gave her an old analog shortwave radio that I thought she'd use just to listen to local top 40. Instead, she started listening to various international broadcasts, and even CJBC in the car on her half hour commute from a job she had in college. French thus became....and still is....her best foreign language.
 
It's never bothered me that others got it or not, guys. It just hit home when he basically pointed out that my hobby is being phased out due to technological advancements. I suppose I always knew it, I just never realized the scope of it.

Oh, come on, Icangelp...my Lionel too? Geez... :-\ :D
 
I'm in my early 20s so I guess I could be considered part of the younger generation, but I still enjoy DXing. Growing up in a rural area before the high speed internet and smartphones, listening to distant broadcasts was often the only way to hear stuff. I never knew it was called DXing at the time but I can remember as a young child filling cassette tapes with songs recorded off the radio usually on days when there was a tropo opening.

These days I don't do a lot of DXing for the content, usually its just trying to ID a station. I will still choose OTA over that station's stream whenever possible. Many stations fill their streams with annoying PSA type commercials with the same ones getting played every break. Then theres the lossy audio compression used for streaming that I can't stand after a while, especially if the bit rate is too low.
 
My girlfriend is not a radio listener, or at least she wasn't until she moved in. We regularly listen to Montreal AM's like CJAD and CJLO. She does enjoy them and the fading and loss of signal at times from CJLO doesn't bother her. One night we were returning from Montreal with her mum driving, the cd she had playing was over, so she went to the radio for the first time ever. She saw the radio was tuned to FM...and out loud said "let's try AM". She went through every frequency one by one until she landed on CJBC. They were playing classical at the time and she was loving that there was classical on the radio. She found out that she could also hear the same programming locally on 90.7 FM but chose to stay on 860. Even when we passed near some noisy phone lines. This was her first time dxing on her own, and she was rewarded. She's only 32 and normally would not even turn on a radio, but in the past year, she's really begun to like listening to it. She just loves the classical and opera programming on CIRA-5 at 1350 AM here in Ottawa and the trivia show on CJAD 800. She never asks about FM and she does know AM can go further distances. She's a real metal fan and loves gothic metal, which even the college FM's don't play here, but she can find the music and programming she likes on AM.
 
A few memories .....

A girl I was dating at the time and I were in the front seat, with another couple in the back seat cruising with us. We wound up at a drive-up food place. While waiting for our food, she and I got into it, in a joshing way, just jabbing and kidding about something. So she turns on the car radio, finds some complete mess of static and sideband slop, and proclaims to all of us, 'Wait! Did you hear THAT ?!??'
That was 1979, long before any of the current methods of listening.

Was at some friends' place once, beautiful day. He's this huge guy and a sometimes DXer ; she's a stick and used to work in radio. A bird somehow wound up inside their house. She's screaming and chasing it with a broom in fear and outrage. He helps out, by calmly walking to the bookshelf, lighting his pipe, and taking out a bird-guide book. He's sitting on the sofa with this book, and his wife and I finally chase the bird out the front door.
He says, 'That was a Chesapeake (something or other),' slams the book shut, and says, 'And I'm COUNTING it.'
As though it were a QSL.

Am driving with the decided non-DXer wife along Linden Boulevard in Brooklyn NYC one night, me with 1200 on the car radio for some reason. I start talking about something or other, and she says 'Shut up a second!'
So I did.
'CFGO Ottawa' identifies.
'Okay,' she says. 'What was that you were saying again?'
CFGO was a new one for me, too!
Girls get caught up in the magic of DX at the weirdest times.

Just a few months ago, I am visiting relatives in the Catskills and am at the kitchen table idly DXing. My great-nephew, age ten, says, 'Wow, Uncle Steve. That's the oldest radio I ever saw.'
It was a Grundig S450 AM/FM/SW portable. Not even a year old.

Aforementioned buddy (the one with the pipe) had been accused of 'knowing nothing about what a woman expects on a date'.
He says, 'I know EVERYTHING about that,' and goes on.
You pick a nice romantic place. You dude up really cool. Maybe even a tie. You meet her on time. You open the car door for her. You open all the doors for her. You seat her. You let her pick the wine if she knows how (and even if she doesn't know how). You are courteous and bighearted all the way through. Then, if you're lucky, she agrees, with customary maidenly fashion, to go back to your place for a nightcap. Once inside your place, naturally, it's the home stretch. You make the drinks, and then turn down the lights.
And then, of course, you DX.
 
I'm in my early 20s and my parents, along with my sister, hate when I tune the radio all the time. My grandpa doesn't care that much.
 
31 here, and really past the age where I really care what others think of my DX hobby. I do have stories about growing up though.

My dad thought it was pretty cool. Matter of fact, he had lots of 'DX' stories from his childhood in Indiana and subsequently moving to Michigan at 15. He remembers tuning into Fort Wayne's WOWO radio, because it made him feel like he was back home in Monroeville. Upon moving to Michigan, he also discovered the free-form progressive format of WLAV 96.9 in Grand Rapids, which became a favorite FM station for him despite being 80 miles away. He settled down and in the 80's had my brother and I. It was no surprise that I caught the interest of distant radio from my dad. I remember one hot summer afternoon when I was about 9, playing with the digital FM stereo in my parents 1987 Chevy Nova and discovering 97.3 WMEE, from Fort Wayne. Dad was amazed that I had discovered one of his stations from his old stomping grounds. And I even knew, at 9 years old, that WMEE was a better station than our local CHR outlet (but that's another story.)

On the other hand, my mom absolutely hated my hobby and even went so far as to tell me that I'd actually have friends if I did more things that normal people in my age bracket did. She didn't understand the fascination with listening to static. Why is it such a big deal to you to pick up Detroit and Chicago radio stations from here? She warmed up to it a little bit as I became a young adult, but was still nowhere near my dad's level of understanding it.
 
While walking in my relative's neighborhood in Marysville today, with my Grundig G8, I got that familiar question from a young kid (maybe 2nd grade) - "What is that you are holding?" I said "A radio." He says, "What's a radio?" Very sad to hear that, but the Ipod, MP3s and phones have killed FM for most young people.

I did have a tropo opening and I'll post those logs in a bit!

-crainbebo
 
Kids that age need to know what a radio is...and I, at this iPhone age, almost said, "What's an Xbox?"

I showed a supervisor at work a picture in my iPhone the kind of radio I have and he gave a "Who cares?" look. Not too happy about it and he's in his 40s.
 
I was a DXer for decades - still am on the ham bands, and I still listen to shortwave broadcasting on occasion. But once streaming became mainstream (read: Mel Karmazin no longer ran CBS, and they joined us in the 21st century), it became obsolete as far as broadcasting is concerned.

I can get thousands of stations on my PC, phone, or internet radio, but the number of shortwave broadcasters is dropping fast outside of Africa and Asia. Still plenty of good catches in that part of the world, though, but most do not broadcast in English.
 
purpledevil said:
Our kids' generation will never understand why we do what we do and that is painful to realize as an enthusiast.

No they dont and they wont ever know WHAT 'GOOD' IS.... They think this garbage they are using is 'GOOD' -- Really quite sad......
 
The people who ask why you listen to static don't understand why you are doing this. I don't (generally) DX to listen for content; I DX to hear distant signals (hence the term "DX").

Technology is advancing at such a rapid rate. Six years ago no one knew what an "app" was. Today you can go anywhere for content. What's increasingly missing from young people's minds is the curiosity about how it gets there.

I listen to Pandora. I listen to TuneIn Radio. I always have a smartphone with me, either my own or the one my employer provides for me. The technology is so transparent, it just works (mostly). The difference between me and most of the millions of people who have access to the same stuff is that the technology fascinates me.

Just like hearing a radio station you shouldn't be able to hear while listening to static.
 
The Dude said:
purpledevil said:
Our kids' generation will never understand why we do what we do and that is painful to realize as an enthusiast.

No they dont and they wont ever know WHAT 'GOOD' IS.... They think this garbage they are using is 'GOOD' -- Really quite sad......

Geez - bitter old man (or one in training), much? :D

Today's technology is orders of magnitude better than that old tube junk we had to put up with in the past. I've been in electronics, both as a hobby and professionally, for 50 years, and I'll take my smartphone or the Raspberry Pi that I'm turning into an internet radio (cheaper than buying one) over any consumer-grade shortwave receiver that existed back when I started out in the '60s. Not a top-of-the-line Collins or Drake, mind you, but anything less than $100 in the '60s - $700 or so today - was absolute garbage.

Oh, and by the way...GET OFF MY LAWN!!!! ;D
 
I am 19 and still love DXing. My dad said that he used to get an am station from San Francisco when conditions were right back in the 1970s. My first memory of DXing came in October of 2006. My radio was not that great, I never have the best radios. I think I was scanning the dial that day after finding that CIOC, which was usually just barely listenable from that radio, was coming in better than usual. I passed 102.9, which even on that radio comes in fairly well, and stopped when I heard something unusual on 103.1. It was CHTT/Victoria, BC. Later that day, I managed to pull in CHBE, which had been renamed from what I remembered it several years ago. The next time there was a tropo opening, I found that I was able to get KXXO when I moved my headphones one way and CHKG when I moved the other way. I then tried a bunch of Vancouver frequencies I knew and got just about all of them. I do remember a different time when I briefly received a stereo signal on CFBT. The first time I got Vancouver, I tried the am band on another radio and was impressed by getting KSL clear as a local. Since then, I have only managed to get a new station here and there, though the number of stations has increased slightly since I got my iPod, which does have an fm tuner. Unfortunately, I have not managed to get anything via E-Skip yet, unless you count the opening I had in May from the Eugene receiver on Global Tuners, which I was not tuning the majority of the time. I'm thinking of asking for a G8 for my birthday or Christmas.
 
Lawppy: my mother had that same conversation with me growing up. :-\ :D That took me back, thanks!

KeithE4: guess I gotta get some practice in, all the grey reminds me I'm no young man anymore.. ;D
 
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