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radioelizabeth
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LOL!
> I feel like I've just witnessed Bruce Lee take on Gary
> Coleman.
>
> Wow.
>
> Well spoken.
>
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> > > Since when is it personal to notice that you and Neutral
>
> > Observer
> > > spent your Christmas day challenging everyone.
> >
> > Hunh? I wasn't even home until after dark (as some like
> to
> > put it)!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > The problem is if you don't agree....
> >
> > Could you do me, everybody here, and -- ultimately --
> > yourself a huge favor??
> >
> > Could you drop the words "agree" and "disagree" from any
> and
> > all conversation on this board? Or, at least, on this
> > issue?
> >
> > We're talking about two things here -- radio and marketing
>
> > principles and moral principles. They're both
> > principles...things that are outside of and beyond any of
> > us. Therefore, "agreement" or "disagreement" between
> > parties is immaterial to the discussion; the issues and
> > principles behind them are what are at issue, not the
> > personalities stating them.
> >
> > I mean, we're not talking favorite ice cream flavors,
> here.
> >
> > If you permanently remove "agree" and "disagree" from your
>
> > discussions and, thus, your mind, you'll find that you
> will
> > focus on the actual subject at hand and get better at
> > thinking about and discussing these things.
> >
> >
> >
> > > ...you monopolize every converstation and you
> > > send personal remarks and when you receive the same
> back,
> > you
> > > are aghast!
> >
> > Boy, I haven't seen that at all!
> >
> > Hey...how do you interpret the following question? Is it
> > principle or personal?
> >
> > "Are you the guy playing 43 currents????"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Having a great voice is an asset but having a warm
> > personality and
> > > getting along with people is worth far more, that I
> > understand is a real
> > > weakness for you.
> >
> > Now, come on...
> >
> > Hearsay? Assumption? Gossip? In which unbiblical manner
>
> > did you come to say that?
> >
> > I've never met E, but I've been aware of her almost from
> her
> > earliest crackings of the mic. She's always had a good
> > amount of talent and has clearly worked very hard to
> > maximize it. She's worked in bad situations and good
> > situations, likely learning plenty in each...especially
> her
> > time in Cleveland during which she worked with (and, I'm
> > sure, learned a ton from) Sue Wilson and Daniel Anstandig.
>
> > She's talented, she's smart, she's learned, and she's a
> > worker. When you have those characteristics, you cannot
> > help but have very high standards for yourself and expect
> > the same from others. You cannot help but desire and
> maybe
> > even demand a high-performance environment. When that's
> the
> > case, a person's traits, motivations, standards, and
> desires
> > can all be misinterpreted by people who don't share them.
> >
> > I don't know E, I don't know anybody who does, and I've
> > never heard anything about her. If...IF...you've heard
> some
> > things, it seems likely to me that they could very well be
>
> > flat-out misunderstandings.
> >
> > Now, a guy like you comes along on an internet message
> > board...a guy who obviously has never acquired the
> knowledge
> > of marketing or this industry that she and others
> have...and
> > boldly makes a charge of racism against an entire format!
>
> > She -- rightfully! -- challenges you on that and demands
> > proof. I dispute it and list artists and titles that do
> fit
> > the format and get played. We both challenge you on
> > programming principles. Then, something really
> frustrating
> > happens:
> >
> > You never provide evidence, never acknowledge what does
> get
> > played, never discuss the programming principles that are
> > brought up from the perspective of someone who should know
>
> > them, look for "agreement" rather than what is true, and
> go
> > personal against the both of us, but especially rough on E
>
> > with what I have to guess is gossip about something
> probably
> > misunderstood in the first place...which really adds up to
> a
> > worst-case scenario.
> >
> > On this board! This is bad...really bad!
> >
> > I have not seen her go personal. I have seen you go very
> > personal. And that has been way over the line. It must
> > stop.
> >
>
<P ID="signature">______________
RADIOELIZABETH
Pleasant, Passionate, Persuasive
www.radioelizabeth.com</P>
LOL!
> I feel like I've just witnessed Bruce Lee take on Gary
> Coleman.
>
> Wow.
>
> Well spoken.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > Since when is it personal to notice that you and Neutral
>
> > Observer
> > > spent your Christmas day challenging everyone.
> >
> > Hunh? I wasn't even home until after dark (as some like
> to
> > put it)!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > The problem is if you don't agree....
> >
> > Could you do me, everybody here, and -- ultimately --
> > yourself a huge favor??
> >
> > Could you drop the words "agree" and "disagree" from any
> and
> > all conversation on this board? Or, at least, on this
> > issue?
> >
> > We're talking about two things here -- radio and marketing
>
> > principles and moral principles. They're both
> > principles...things that are outside of and beyond any of
> > us. Therefore, "agreement" or "disagreement" between
> > parties is immaterial to the discussion; the issues and
> > principles behind them are what are at issue, not the
> > personalities stating them.
> >
> > I mean, we're not talking favorite ice cream flavors,
> here.
> >
> > If you permanently remove "agree" and "disagree" from your
>
> > discussions and, thus, your mind, you'll find that you
> will
> > focus on the actual subject at hand and get better at
> > thinking about and discussing these things.
> >
> >
> >
> > > ...you monopolize every converstation and you
> > > send personal remarks and when you receive the same
> back,
> > you
> > > are aghast!
> >
> > Boy, I haven't seen that at all!
> >
> > Hey...how do you interpret the following question? Is it
> > principle or personal?
> >
> > "Are you the guy playing 43 currents????"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Having a great voice is an asset but having a warm
> > personality and
> > > getting along with people is worth far more, that I
> > understand is a real
> > > weakness for you.
> >
> > Now, come on...
> >
> > Hearsay? Assumption? Gossip? In which unbiblical manner
>
> > did you come to say that?
> >
> > I've never met E, but I've been aware of her almost from
> her
> > earliest crackings of the mic. She's always had a good
> > amount of talent and has clearly worked very hard to
> > maximize it. She's worked in bad situations and good
> > situations, likely learning plenty in each...especially
> her
> > time in Cleveland during which she worked with (and, I'm
> > sure, learned a ton from) Sue Wilson and Daniel Anstandig.
>
> > She's talented, she's smart, she's learned, and she's a
> > worker. When you have those characteristics, you cannot
> > help but have very high standards for yourself and expect
> > the same from others. You cannot help but desire and
> maybe
> > even demand a high-performance environment. When that's
> the
> > case, a person's traits, motivations, standards, and
> desires
> > can all be misinterpreted by people who don't share them.
> >
> > I don't know E, I don't know anybody who does, and I've
> > never heard anything about her. If...IF...you've heard
> some
> > things, it seems likely to me that they could very well be
>
> > flat-out misunderstandings.
> >
> > Now, a guy like you comes along on an internet message
> > board...a guy who obviously has never acquired the
> knowledge
> > of marketing or this industry that she and others
> have...and
> > boldly makes a charge of racism against an entire format!
>
> > She -- rightfully! -- challenges you on that and demands
> > proof. I dispute it and list artists and titles that do
> fit
> > the format and get played. We both challenge you on
> > programming principles. Then, something really
> frustrating
> > happens:
> >
> > You never provide evidence, never acknowledge what does
> get
> > played, never discuss the programming principles that are
> > brought up from the perspective of someone who should know
>
> > them, look for "agreement" rather than what is true, and
> go
> > personal against the both of us, but especially rough on E
>
> > with what I have to guess is gossip about something
> probably
> > misunderstood in the first place...which really adds up to
> a
> > worst-case scenario.
> >
> > On this board! This is bad...really bad!
> >
> > I have not seen her go personal. I have seen you go very
> > personal. And that has been way over the line. It must
> > stop.
> >
>
<P ID="signature">______________
RADIOELIZABETH
Pleasant, Passionate, Persuasive
www.radioelizabeth.com</P>
