Spilling over speculation from the LA board, is there a realistic chance that Jeff and Jer could be heard in both Sandy Eggo (94.1) AND L.A. (98.7) come Tuesday Sept. 5? Certainly two weeks of "Best of" stuff will give the LA audience a good shot to come to know the Showgram. And certainly, ANYTHING would be better than what Star 98.7 (shall I just start saying My 98.7 now?) has currently in the morning slot. What say the experts? Can Jeff and Jer make it outside of SD?
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Crusty_Bob
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> What say the experts? Can Jeff and Jer
> make it outside of SD?
>
I don't think they can. They are a hometown sort of act and even in San Diego much of their following is a legacy sort of thing: soccer moms (and dads) who started listening to J&J when they were all young, single and still checkin' out the fern bars. J&J and their audience have grown into middle together and I think it would be hard for people in another market to just jump in at this point. However, since it presumably would not cost Clear Channel anything to try it, I would not be surprised to see them test it out.
> make it outside of SD?
>
I don't think they can. They are a hometown sort of act and even in San Diego much of their following is a legacy sort of thing: soccer moms (and dads) who started listening to J&J when they were all young, single and still checkin' out the fern bars. J&J and their audience have grown into middle together and I think it would be hard for people in another market to just jump in at this point. However, since it presumably would not cost Clear Channel anything to try it, I would not be surprised to see them test it out.
First of all, Tuesday is the 6th, Monday is the 5th.
Second, this is based on a simple guess I made on the LA board. It's just a shot in the dark, no teeth to it, so let us be careful not give legs to this.
Yet...
imho
> Spilling over speculation from the LA board, is there a
> realistic chance that Jeff and Jer could be heard in both
> Sandy Eggo (94.1) AND L.A. (98.7) come Tuesday Sept. 5?
> Certainly two weeks of "Best of" stuff will give the LA
> audience a good shot to come to know the Showgram. And
> certainly, ANYTHING would be better than what Star 98.7
> (shall I just start saying My 98.7 now?) has currently in
> the morning slot. What say the experts? Can Jeff and Jer
> make it outside of SD?
>
Second, this is based on a simple guess I made on the LA board. It's just a shot in the dark, no teeth to it, so let us be careful not give legs to this.
Yet...
imho
> Spilling over speculation from the LA board, is there a
> realistic chance that Jeff and Jer could be heard in both
> Sandy Eggo (94.1) AND L.A. (98.7) come Tuesday Sept. 5?
> Certainly two weeks of "Best of" stuff will give the LA
> audience a good shot to come to know the Showgram. And
> certainly, ANYTHING would be better than what Star 98.7
> (shall I just start saying My 98.7 now?) has currently in
> the morning slot. What say the experts? Can Jeff and Jer
> make it outside of SD?
>
> I don't think they can. They are a hometown sort of act and
> even in San Diego much of their following is a legacy sort
> of thing: soccer moms (and dads) who started listening to
> J&J when they were all young, single and still checkin' out
> the fern bars. J&J and their audience have grown into middle
> together and I think it would be hard for people in another
> market to just jump in at this point. However, since it
> presumably would not cost Clear Channel anything to try it,
> I would not be surprised to see them test it out.
>
I thought they tried it once and failed big time?
Or am I thinking of another show?<P ID="signature">______________
...co-moderator of the Satellite Radio, Phoenix, and San Diego boards...</P>
> even in San Diego much of their following is a legacy sort
> of thing: soccer moms (and dads) who started listening to
> J&J when they were all young, single and still checkin' out
> the fern bars. J&J and their audience have grown into middle
> together and I think it would be hard for people in another
> market to just jump in at this point. However, since it
> presumably would not cost Clear Channel anything to try it,
> I would not be surprised to see them test it out.
>
I thought they tried it once and failed big time?
Or am I thinking of another show?<P ID="signature">______________
...co-moderator of the Satellite Radio, Phoenix, and San Diego boards...</P>
Dave, Shelly and Chainsaw were syndicated for a brief time.
Also, I believe Dave Smiley was heard on KIIS FM (overnights?) when he was doing afternoons at Star100.7
I do not believe Jeff and Jer have ever been syndicated, although there has been talk about it since the B100 days.
> I thought they tried it once and failed big time?
>
> Or am I thinking of another show?
>
Also, I believe Dave Smiley was heard on KIIS FM (overnights?) when he was doing afternoons at Star100.7
I do not believe Jeff and Jer have ever been syndicated, although there has been talk about it since the B100 days.
> I thought they tried it once and failed big time?
>
> Or am I thinking of another show?
>
Speculation stopper.
It appears that the goofing around on Star LA all weekend was just that - goofing around. No changes, no adjustments, no talent swaps. See the current posts on the LA board for more info.
- Doc
> Spilling over speculation from the LA board, is there a
> realistic chance that Jeff and Jer could be heard in both
> Sandy Eggo (94.1) AND L.A. (98.7) come Tuesday Sept. 5?
> Certainly two weeks of "Best of" stuff will give the LA
> audience a good shot to come to know the Showgram. And
> certainly, ANYTHING would be better than what Star 98.7
> (shall I just start saying My 98.7 now?) has currently in
> the morning slot. What say the experts? Can Jeff and Jer
> make it outside of SD?
>
It appears that the goofing around on Star LA all weekend was just that - goofing around. No changes, no adjustments, no talent swaps. See the current posts on the LA board for more info.
- Doc
> Spilling over speculation from the LA board, is there a
> realistic chance that Jeff and Jer could be heard in both
> Sandy Eggo (94.1) AND L.A. (98.7) come Tuesday Sept. 5?
> Certainly two weeks of "Best of" stuff will give the LA
> audience a good shot to come to know the Showgram. And
> certainly, ANYTHING would be better than what Star 98.7
> (shall I just start saying My 98.7 now?) has currently in
> the morning slot. What say the experts? Can Jeff and Jer
> make it outside of SD?
>
Re: Speculation stopper.
And as I indicated on the LA board, it was big huge waste of transmitter energy!
That's also why I warned everyone that my suggestion was just a shot in the dark, and not to take it too seriously.
> It appears that the goofing around on Star LA all weekend
> was just that - goofing around. No changes, no adjustments,
> no talent swaps. See the current posts on the LA board for
> more info.
>
> - Doc
>
> > Spilling over speculation from the LA board, is there a
> > realistic chance that Jeff and Jer could be heard in both
> > Sandy Eggo (94.1) AND L.A. (98.7) come Tuesday Sept. 5?
> > Certainly two weeks of "Best of" stuff will give the LA
> > audience a good shot to come to know the Showgram. And
> > certainly, ANYTHING would be better than what Star 98.7
> > (shall I just start saying My 98.7 now?) has currently in
> > the morning slot. What say the experts? Can Jeff and Jer
>
> > make it outside of SD?
> >
>
And as I indicated on the LA board, it was big huge waste of transmitter energy!
That's also why I warned everyone that my suggestion was just a shot in the dark, and not to take it too seriously.
> It appears that the goofing around on Star LA all weekend
> was just that - goofing around. No changes, no adjustments,
> no talent swaps. See the current posts on the LA board for
> more info.
>
> - Doc
>
> > Spilling over speculation from the LA board, is there a
> > realistic chance that Jeff and Jer could be heard in both
> > Sandy Eggo (94.1) AND L.A. (98.7) come Tuesday Sept. 5?
> > Certainly two weeks of "Best of" stuff will give the LA
> > audience a good shot to come to know the Showgram. And
> > certainly, ANYTHING would be better than what Star 98.7
> > (shall I just start saying My 98.7 now?) has currently in
> > the morning slot. What say the experts? Can Jeff and Jer
>
> > make it outside of SD?
> >
>
C
Crusty_Bob
Guest
Re: Speculation stopper.
> > it was big huge waste of transmitter energy!
>
> Boy, you got that right! Talk about much ado about nothing
>
>
> - Doc
>
They did fire the afternoon show today (Tuesday 9/6).
> > it was big huge waste of transmitter energy!
>
> Boy, you got that right! Talk about much ado about nothing
>
>
> - Doc
>
They did fire the afternoon show today (Tuesday 9/6).
K
KMRichards
Guest
Re: Speculation stopper.
> It appears that the goofing around on Star LA all weekend
> was just that - goofing around. No changes, no adjustments,
> no talent swaps. See the current posts on the LA board for
> more info.
Yes, proving once again that the ability of people to lower their credibility with predictions, speculation, and rumor mongering is unstoppable.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> It appears that the goofing around on Star LA all weekend
> was just that - goofing around. No changes, no adjustments,
> no talent swaps. See the current posts on the LA board for
> more info.
Yes, proving once again that the ability of people to lower their credibility with predictions, speculation, and rumor mongering is unstoppable.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
Re: Speculation stopper.
> > It appears that the goofing around on Star LA all weekend
> > was just that - goofing around. No changes, no
> adjustments,
> > no talent swaps. See the current posts on the LA board for
>
> > more info.
>
> Yes, proving once again that the ability of people to lower
> their credibility with predictions, speculation, and rumor
> mongering is unstoppable.
>
And I said, (once again) that I was making a shot in the dark and that people should take it seriously.
If not to speculate, what are we allowed to talk about around here? Oh gee, what a nice logo 933 has?
> > It appears that the goofing around on Star LA all weekend
> > was just that - goofing around. No changes, no
> adjustments,
> > no talent swaps. See the current posts on the LA board for
>
> > more info.
>
> Yes, proving once again that the ability of people to lower
> their credibility with predictions, speculation, and rumor
> mongering is unstoppable.
>
And I said, (once again) that I was making a shot in the dark and that people should take it seriously.
If not to speculate, what are we allowed to talk about around here? Oh gee, what a nice logo 933 has?
K
KMRichards
Guest
Re: Speculation stopper.
> If not to speculate, what are we allowed to talk about
> around here? Oh gee, what a nice logo 933 has?
How about some honest critiques of the formats on the air in the market?<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> If not to speculate, what are we allowed to talk about
> around here? Oh gee, what a nice logo 933 has?
How about some honest critiques of the formats on the air in the market?<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
Re: Speculation stopper.
> > If not to speculate, what are we allowed to talk about
> > around here? Oh gee, what a nice logo 933 has?
>
> How about some honest critiques of the formats on the air in
> the market?
>
Ok...
(These are all opinions, so don't beat me up on this)
I don't like any spanish format, because I don't speak spanish.
Thus, I dislike 99.3, and pretty much anything not in English.
I'm not Christian, so I don't care for any of the religious stations either.
Channel 933 and most Top 40 stations around the country sound too Urban.
Z90 does what it is supposed to, but it doesn't play enough dance music
My94.1 has a wimpy name. Sissy name. Why aren't men supposed to listen to Top 40 without rap music? All men don't like Rap music.
Star987 wasted valuable air time for nothing. LA has too many Hot AC's by the same owner. Doesn't make business sense. It's like The San Diego Union and Evening Tribune. Two outlets, same format and owner. Star shoud have done someting to distinguish themselves. They didn't, their loss.
KBIG is a good station, a true Hot AC, or recurrent CHR format.
Alternative Rock seems to only appeal to grunge fans, but leaves out the rest of the new music, which could also be good.
Rock 105 seems to appeal to Juvinile delinquints.
I don't know enough about KPRI, because I could never get the signal when i lied in Diego.
KGB and ThePlanet play Classic Rock and nothing but; boring. Same old songs over and over. If you're lucky, you'll recognize most of them.
Jack FM is a good idea, but not having jocks is not.
The Modern Oldies/mp3 varety hits format would have worked better without the whole goofy "Golly Gee, I'm Jack" thing.
KSON's country days are over (IMO)
US 95.7 is KSON part II.
Country should focus on Hot Country Hits, not Country Memories.
Who wants to hear John Denver all day? (DON'T answer that).
Mighty 1090 is slowly becomming XtraSports Part II
Moving the format from 690 to 570 was an insult to San Diego, Clear-channel should be ashamed of itself. No dignity at all.
KLSD and KOGO are cheap partisan pot-shot stations.
The whole "I'm right, and he left" thing is stale, old, uneducated, and unimaginative. All the talk should be on one station.
KFMB is a cheap shell of it's former self. They might as well just hook the frequncey up to a 24hour talk network and just drop KFMB San Diego ID's in once an hour, nobody except for Rick Roberts fans would know the difference.
San Diego needs a real 24 hour Newsradio station. KNX has a solid signal into San Diego, but doesn't bother competing in the market. This is stupid, and an insult to San Diegans. But then, San Diego business won't buy ads for the format, which is also a shame, and a sham!
I like Magic 92-5, but I'm not sure about the future of the format.
There. Everybody is equally insutled now.
> > If not to speculate, what are we allowed to talk about
> > around here? Oh gee, what a nice logo 933 has?
>
> How about some honest critiques of the formats on the air in
> the market?
>
Ok...
(These are all opinions, so don't beat me up on this)
I don't like any spanish format, because I don't speak spanish.
Thus, I dislike 99.3, and pretty much anything not in English.
I'm not Christian, so I don't care for any of the religious stations either.
Channel 933 and most Top 40 stations around the country sound too Urban.
Z90 does what it is supposed to, but it doesn't play enough dance music
My94.1 has a wimpy name. Sissy name. Why aren't men supposed to listen to Top 40 without rap music? All men don't like Rap music.
Star987 wasted valuable air time for nothing. LA has too many Hot AC's by the same owner. Doesn't make business sense. It's like The San Diego Union and Evening Tribune. Two outlets, same format and owner. Star shoud have done someting to distinguish themselves. They didn't, their loss.
KBIG is a good station, a true Hot AC, or recurrent CHR format.
Alternative Rock seems to only appeal to grunge fans, but leaves out the rest of the new music, which could also be good.
Rock 105 seems to appeal to Juvinile delinquints.
I don't know enough about KPRI, because I could never get the signal when i lied in Diego.
KGB and ThePlanet play Classic Rock and nothing but; boring. Same old songs over and over. If you're lucky, you'll recognize most of them.
Jack FM is a good idea, but not having jocks is not.
The Modern Oldies/mp3 varety hits format would have worked better without the whole goofy "Golly Gee, I'm Jack" thing.
KSON's country days are over (IMO)
US 95.7 is KSON part II.
Country should focus on Hot Country Hits, not Country Memories.
Who wants to hear John Denver all day? (DON'T answer that).
Mighty 1090 is slowly becomming XtraSports Part II
Moving the format from 690 to 570 was an insult to San Diego, Clear-channel should be ashamed of itself. No dignity at all.
KLSD and KOGO are cheap partisan pot-shot stations.
The whole "I'm right, and he left" thing is stale, old, uneducated, and unimaginative. All the talk should be on one station.
KFMB is a cheap shell of it's former self. They might as well just hook the frequncey up to a 24hour talk network and just drop KFMB San Diego ID's in once an hour, nobody except for Rick Roberts fans would know the difference.
San Diego needs a real 24 hour Newsradio station. KNX has a solid signal into San Diego, but doesn't bother competing in the market. This is stupid, and an insult to San Diegans. But then, San Diego business won't buy ads for the format, which is also a shame, and a sham!
I like Magic 92-5, but I'm not sure about the future of the format.
There. Everybody is equally insutled now.
K
KMRichards
Guest
Re: Speculation stopper.
Garrett, most of the examples you gave, if detailed beyond a couple of sentences, would make great discussions, IMHO.
Pick one, start a thread, and let's see what happens. Which of those are you most opinionated about?
> > > If not to speculate, what are we allowed to talk about
> > > around here? Oh gee, what a nice logo 933 has?
> >
> > How about some honest critiques of the formats on the air
> in
> > the market?
> >
> Ok...
> (These are all opinions, so don't beat me up on this)
>
> I don't like any spanish format, because I don't speak
> spanish.
> Thus, I dislike 99.3, and pretty much anything not in
> English.
>
> I'm not Christian, so I don't care for any of the religious
> stations either.
>
> Channel 933 and most Top 40 stations around the country
> sound too Urban.
> Z90 does what it is supposed to, but it doesn't play enough
> dance music
>
> My94.1 has a wimpy name. Sissy name. Why aren't men supposed
> to listen to Top 40 without rap music? All men don't like
> Rap music.
>
> Star987 wasted valuable air time for nothing. LA has too
> many Hot AC's by the same owner. Doesn't make business
> sense. It's like The San Diego Union and Evening Tribune.
> Two outlets, same format and owner. Star shoud have done
> someting to distinguish themselves. They didn't, their loss.
>
>
> KBIG is a good station, a true Hot AC, or recurrent CHR
> format.
>
> Alternative Rock seems to only appeal to grunge fans, but
> leaves out the rest of the new music, which could also be
> good.
>
> Rock 105 seems to appeal to Juvinile delinquints.
> I don't know enough about KPRI, because I could never get
> the signal when i lied in Diego.
>
> KGB and ThePlanet play Classic Rock and nothing but; boring.
> Same old songs over and over. If you're lucky, you'll
> recognize most of them.
>
> Jack FM is a good idea, but not having jocks is not.
> The Modern Oldies/mp3 varety hits format would have worked
> better without the whole goofy "Golly Gee, I'm Jack" thing.
>
> KSON's country days are over (IMO)
> US 95.7 is KSON part II.
> Country should focus on Hot Country Hits, not Country
> Memories.
> Who wants to hear John Denver all day? (DON'T answer that).
>
> Mighty 1090 is slowly becomming XtraSports Part II
> Moving the format from 690 to 570 was an insult to San
> Diego, Clear-channel should be ashamed of itself. No dignity
> at all.
>
> KLSD and KOGO are cheap partisan pot-shot stations.
> The whole "I'm right, and he left" thing is stale, old,
> uneducated, and unimaginative. All the talk should be on one
> station.
>
> KFMB is a cheap shell of it's former self. They might as
> well just hook the frequncey up to a 24hour talk network and
> just drop KFMB San Diego ID's in once an hour, nobody except
> for Rick Roberts fans would know the difference.
>
> San Diego needs a real 24 hour Newsradio station. KNX has a
> solid signal into San Diego, but doesn't bother competing in
> the market. This is stupid, and an insult to San Diegans.
> But then, San Diego business won't buy ads for the format,
> which is also a shame, and a sham!
>
> I like Magic 92-5, but I'm not sure about the future of the
> format.
>
> There. Everybody is equally insutled now.
> <P ID="signature">______________
</P>
Garrett, most of the examples you gave, if detailed beyond a couple of sentences, would make great discussions, IMHO.
Pick one, start a thread, and let's see what happens. Which of those are you most opinionated about?
> > > If not to speculate, what are we allowed to talk about
> > > around here? Oh gee, what a nice logo 933 has?
> >
> > How about some honest critiques of the formats on the air
> in
> > the market?
> >
> Ok...
> (These are all opinions, so don't beat me up on this)
>
> I don't like any spanish format, because I don't speak
> spanish.
> Thus, I dislike 99.3, and pretty much anything not in
> English.
>
> I'm not Christian, so I don't care for any of the religious
> stations either.
>
> Channel 933 and most Top 40 stations around the country
> sound too Urban.
> Z90 does what it is supposed to, but it doesn't play enough
> dance music
>
> My94.1 has a wimpy name. Sissy name. Why aren't men supposed
> to listen to Top 40 without rap music? All men don't like
> Rap music.
>
> Star987 wasted valuable air time for nothing. LA has too
> many Hot AC's by the same owner. Doesn't make business
> sense. It's like The San Diego Union and Evening Tribune.
> Two outlets, same format and owner. Star shoud have done
> someting to distinguish themselves. They didn't, their loss.
>
>
> KBIG is a good station, a true Hot AC, or recurrent CHR
> format.
>
> Alternative Rock seems to only appeal to grunge fans, but
> leaves out the rest of the new music, which could also be
> good.
>
> Rock 105 seems to appeal to Juvinile delinquints.
> I don't know enough about KPRI, because I could never get
> the signal when i lied in Diego.
>
> KGB and ThePlanet play Classic Rock and nothing but; boring.
> Same old songs over and over. If you're lucky, you'll
> recognize most of them.
>
> Jack FM is a good idea, but not having jocks is not.
> The Modern Oldies/mp3 varety hits format would have worked
> better without the whole goofy "Golly Gee, I'm Jack" thing.
>
> KSON's country days are over (IMO)
> US 95.7 is KSON part II.
> Country should focus on Hot Country Hits, not Country
> Memories.
> Who wants to hear John Denver all day? (DON'T answer that).
>
> Mighty 1090 is slowly becomming XtraSports Part II
> Moving the format from 690 to 570 was an insult to San
> Diego, Clear-channel should be ashamed of itself. No dignity
> at all.
>
> KLSD and KOGO are cheap partisan pot-shot stations.
> The whole "I'm right, and he left" thing is stale, old,
> uneducated, and unimaginative. All the talk should be on one
> station.
>
> KFMB is a cheap shell of it's former self. They might as
> well just hook the frequncey up to a 24hour talk network and
> just drop KFMB San Diego ID's in once an hour, nobody except
> for Rick Roberts fans would know the difference.
>
> San Diego needs a real 24 hour Newsradio station. KNX has a
> solid signal into San Diego, but doesn't bother competing in
> the market. This is stupid, and an insult to San Diegans.
> But then, San Diego business won't buy ads for the format,
> which is also a shame, and a sham!
>
> I like Magic 92-5, but I'm not sure about the future of the
> format.
>
> There. Everybody is equally insutled now.
> <P ID="signature">______________
</P>
C
Crusty_Bob
Guest
Nothing wrong with radio rumors
Yes, proving once again that the ability of people to lower
> their credibility with predictions, speculation, and rumor
> mongering is unstoppable.
>
I am totally at a loss to understand how one lowers "their credibility with predictions, speculation, and rumor mongering????"
It's not like we're investment advisers here
Radio is part of the toy store of life and is the lowest echelon of show business (as Charlie Tuna, I believe, once called it) and as such it's a gossipy business - fun to speculate about and ponder "what if?" Whole industries are built around the speculation, predictions, predilections, rumors, whadda ka knows, and what have you for the more lofty branches of show biz, but for us poor, misguided radio groupies there is only this forum. There's no more Radio Guide magazine for us
I would think that about 99.9% percent of visitors to a forum such as this would find predictions, speculation and rumor mongering to be quite fun and not at all offensive. It is out of such questioning that we then get around to discussing the merit of whomever is the gossipee and in the process offer some thoughtful, kind and intelligent critique of the local radio stations, their formats and their deejays, PD's, GM's, CEO's. etc.
Anyway, that's my two cents.
Oh, by the way, did you hear the rumor that KLSD might go back to being "KGB-AM" and bring back the Boss Jocks?
Yes, proving once again that the ability of people to lower
> their credibility with predictions, speculation, and rumor
> mongering is unstoppable.
>
I am totally at a loss to understand how one lowers "their credibility with predictions, speculation, and rumor mongering????"
It's not like we're investment advisers here
Radio is part of the toy store of life and is the lowest echelon of show business (as Charlie Tuna, I believe, once called it) and as such it's a gossipy business - fun to speculate about and ponder "what if?" Whole industries are built around the speculation, predictions, predilections, rumors, whadda ka knows, and what have you for the more lofty branches of show biz, but for us poor, misguided radio groupies there is only this forum. There's no more Radio Guide magazine for us
I would think that about 99.9% percent of visitors to a forum such as this would find predictions, speculation and rumor mongering to be quite fun and not at all offensive. It is out of such questioning that we then get around to discussing the merit of whomever is the gossipee and in the process offer some thoughtful, kind and intelligent critique of the local radio stations, their formats and their deejays, PD's, GM's, CEO's. etc.
Anyway, that's my two cents.
Oh, by the way, did you hear the rumor that KLSD might go back to being "KGB-AM" and bring back the Boss Jocks?
Re: Speculation stopper.
It's a tough one K.M., all of them really.
I'm not in San Diego, so most of my listening is online. But I will say I feel strongly about the Spanish stations, becuase we seem to have one every other dial position here in Lubbock TX. The trouble is, I know full well that the reason is because there's an audience and money to be made out here for that, and the same in San Diego. Same with religious stations.
So I can say I don't like it, not sure how to address it.
Which
> of those are you most opinionated about?
>
> > > > If not to speculate, what are we allowed to talk about
>
> > > > around here? Oh gee, what a nice logo 933 has?
> > >
> > > How about some honest critiques of the formats on the
> air
> > in
> > > the market?
> > >
> > Ok...
> > (These are all opinions, so don't beat me up on this)
> >
> > I don't like any spanish format, because I don't speak
> > spanish.
> > Thus, I dislike 99.3, and pretty much anything not in
> > English.
> >
> > I'm not Christian, so I don't care for any of the
> religious
> > stations either.
> >
> > Channel 933 and most Top 40 stations around the country
> > sound too Urban.
> > Z90 does what it is supposed to, but it doesn't play
> enough
> > dance music
> >
> > My94.1 has a wimpy name. Sissy name. Why aren't men
> supposed
> > to listen to Top 40 without rap music? All men don't like
>
> > Rap music.
> >
> > Star987 wasted valuable air time for nothing. LA has too
> > many Hot AC's by the same owner. Doesn't make business
> > sense. It's like The San Diego Union and Evening Tribune.
> > Two outlets, same format and owner. Star shoud have done
> > someting to distinguish themselves. They didn't, their
> loss.
> >
> >
> > KBIG is a good station, a true Hot AC, or recurrent CHR
> > format.
> >
> > Alternative Rock seems to only appeal to grunge fans, but
> > leaves out the rest of the new music, which could also be
> > good.
> >
> > Rock 105 seems to appeal to Juvinile delinquints.
> > I don't know enough about KPRI, because I could never get
> > the signal when i lied in Diego.
> >
> > KGB and ThePlanet play Classic Rock and nothing but;
> boring.
> > Same old songs over and over. If you're lucky, you'll
> > recognize most of them.
> >
> > Jack FM is a good idea, but not having jocks is not.
> > The Modern Oldies/mp3 varety hits format would have worked
>
> > better without the whole goofy "Golly Gee, I'm Jack"
> thing.
> >
> > KSON's country days are over (IMO)
> > US 95.7 is KSON part II.
> > Country should focus on Hot Country Hits, not Country
> > Memories.
> > Who wants to hear John Denver all day? (DON'T answer
> that).
> >
> > Mighty 1090 is slowly becomming XtraSports Part II
> > Moving the format from 690 to 570 was an insult to San
> > Diego, Clear-channel should be ashamed of itself. No
> dignity
> > at all.
> >
> > KLSD and KOGO are cheap partisan pot-shot stations.
> > The whole "I'm right, and he left" thing is stale, old,
> > uneducated, and unimaginative. All the talk should be on
> one
> > station.
> >
> > KFMB is a cheap shell of it's former self. They might as
> > well just hook the frequncey up to a 24hour talk network
> and
> > just drop KFMB San Diego ID's in once an hour, nobody
> except
> > for Rick Roberts fans would know the difference.
> >
> > San Diego needs a real 24 hour Newsradio station. KNX has
> a
> > solid signal into San Diego, but doesn't bother competing
> in
> > the market. This is stupid, and an insult to San Diegans.
> > But then, San Diego business won't buy ads for the format,
>
> > which is also a shame, and a sham!
> >
> > I like Magic 92-5, but I'm not sure about the future of
> the
> > format.
> >
> > There. Everybody is equally insutled now.
> >
>
It's a tough one K.M., all of them really.
I'm not in San Diego, so most of my listening is online. But I will say I feel strongly about the Spanish stations, becuase we seem to have one every other dial position here in Lubbock TX. The trouble is, I know full well that the reason is because there's an audience and money to be made out here for that, and the same in San Diego. Same with religious stations.
So I can say I don't like it, not sure how to address it.
Which
> of those are you most opinionated about?
>
> > > > If not to speculate, what are we allowed to talk about
>
> > > > around here? Oh gee, what a nice logo 933 has?
> > >
> > > How about some honest critiques of the formats on the
> air
> > in
> > > the market?
> > >
> > Ok...
> > (These are all opinions, so don't beat me up on this)
> >
> > I don't like any spanish format, because I don't speak
> > spanish.
> > Thus, I dislike 99.3, and pretty much anything not in
> > English.
> >
> > I'm not Christian, so I don't care for any of the
> religious
> > stations either.
> >
> > Channel 933 and most Top 40 stations around the country
> > sound too Urban.
> > Z90 does what it is supposed to, but it doesn't play
> enough
> > dance music
> >
> > My94.1 has a wimpy name. Sissy name. Why aren't men
> supposed
> > to listen to Top 40 without rap music? All men don't like
>
> > Rap music.
> >
> > Star987 wasted valuable air time for nothing. LA has too
> > many Hot AC's by the same owner. Doesn't make business
> > sense. It's like The San Diego Union and Evening Tribune.
> > Two outlets, same format and owner. Star shoud have done
> > someting to distinguish themselves. They didn't, their
> loss.
> >
> >
> > KBIG is a good station, a true Hot AC, or recurrent CHR
> > format.
> >
> > Alternative Rock seems to only appeal to grunge fans, but
> > leaves out the rest of the new music, which could also be
> > good.
> >
> > Rock 105 seems to appeal to Juvinile delinquints.
> > I don't know enough about KPRI, because I could never get
> > the signal when i lied in Diego.
> >
> > KGB and ThePlanet play Classic Rock and nothing but;
> boring.
> > Same old songs over and over. If you're lucky, you'll
> > recognize most of them.
> >
> > Jack FM is a good idea, but not having jocks is not.
> > The Modern Oldies/mp3 varety hits format would have worked
>
> > better without the whole goofy "Golly Gee, I'm Jack"
> thing.
> >
> > KSON's country days are over (IMO)
> > US 95.7 is KSON part II.
> > Country should focus on Hot Country Hits, not Country
> > Memories.
> > Who wants to hear John Denver all day? (DON'T answer
> that).
> >
> > Mighty 1090 is slowly becomming XtraSports Part II
> > Moving the format from 690 to 570 was an insult to San
> > Diego, Clear-channel should be ashamed of itself. No
> dignity
> > at all.
> >
> > KLSD and KOGO are cheap partisan pot-shot stations.
> > The whole "I'm right, and he left" thing is stale, old,
> > uneducated, and unimaginative. All the talk should be on
> one
> > station.
> >
> > KFMB is a cheap shell of it's former self. They might as
> > well just hook the frequncey up to a 24hour talk network
> and
> > just drop KFMB San Diego ID's in once an hour, nobody
> except
> > for Rick Roberts fans would know the difference.
> >
> > San Diego needs a real 24 hour Newsradio station. KNX has
> a
> > solid signal into San Diego, but doesn't bother competing
> in
> > the market. This is stupid, and an insult to San Diegans.
> > But then, San Diego business won't buy ads for the format,
>
> > which is also a shame, and a sham!
> >
> > I like Magic 92-5, but I'm not sure about the future of
> the
> > format.
> >
> > There. Everybody is equally insutled now.
> >
>
Re: Nothing wrong with radio rumors
I think the problem is, what happened, that K. M. is referring to.
Here, I or someone else made a suggestion, soon, it's spills over to another board, and somewhere, someone's guess, turns into "industry talk," rumors are born, and once they are rumors, there's no distinction between something comming out of a an inside track, and something that was a shot in the dark.
That's what happened with the My/Star 98.7 thing. Everyone thought that Star was flipping, and when I made a suggestion, it got legs, when others began posting aboutit. And in the end, Star didn't flip, but got the publicity it wanted, here on the board.
And, it could have been worse. Mis-infomation could lead the Radio-info people to get sued.
So I see K.M.'s concern.
> Yes, proving once again that the ability of people to lower
> > their credibility with predictions, speculation, and
> rumor
> > mongering is unstoppable.
> >
>
> I am totally at a loss to understand how one lowers "their
> credibility with predictions, speculation, and rumor
> mongering????"
>
> It's not like we're investment advisers here
>
> Radio is part of the toy store of life and is the lowest
> echelon of show business (as Charlie Tuna, I believe, once
> called it) and as such it's a gossipy business - fun to
> speculate about and ponder "what if?" Whole industries are
> built around the speculation, predictions, predilections,
> rumors, whadda ka knows, and what have you for the more
> lofty branches of show biz, but for us poor, misguided radio
> groupies there is only this forum. There's no more Radio
> Guide magazine for us
>
> I would think that about 99.9% percent of visitors to a
> forum such as this would find predictions, speculation and
> rumor mongering to be quite fun and not at all offensive. It
> is out of such questioning that we then get around to
> discussing the merit of whomever is the gossipee and in the
> process offer some thoughtful, kind and intelligent critique
> of the local radio stations, their formats and their
> deejays, PD's, GM's, CEO's. etc.
>
> Anyway, that's my two cents.
>
>
> Oh, by the way, did you hear the rumor that KLSD might go
> back to being "KGB-AM" and bring back the Boss Jocks?
>
I think the problem is, what happened, that K. M. is referring to.
Here, I or someone else made a suggestion, soon, it's spills over to another board, and somewhere, someone's guess, turns into "industry talk," rumors are born, and once they are rumors, there's no distinction between something comming out of a an inside track, and something that was a shot in the dark.
That's what happened with the My/Star 98.7 thing. Everyone thought that Star was flipping, and when I made a suggestion, it got legs, when others began posting aboutit. And in the end, Star didn't flip, but got the publicity it wanted, here on the board.
And, it could have been worse. Mis-infomation could lead the Radio-info people to get sued.
So I see K.M.'s concern.
> Yes, proving once again that the ability of people to lower
> > their credibility with predictions, speculation, and
> rumor
> > mongering is unstoppable.
> >
>
> I am totally at a loss to understand how one lowers "their
> credibility with predictions, speculation, and rumor
> mongering????"
>
> It's not like we're investment advisers here
>
> Radio is part of the toy store of life and is the lowest
> echelon of show business (as Charlie Tuna, I believe, once
> called it) and as such it's a gossipy business - fun to
> speculate about and ponder "what if?" Whole industries are
> built around the speculation, predictions, predilections,
> rumors, whadda ka knows, and what have you for the more
> lofty branches of show biz, but for us poor, misguided radio
> groupies there is only this forum. There's no more Radio
> Guide magazine for us
>
> I would think that about 99.9% percent of visitors to a
> forum such as this would find predictions, speculation and
> rumor mongering to be quite fun and not at all offensive. It
> is out of such questioning that we then get around to
> discussing the merit of whomever is the gossipee and in the
> process offer some thoughtful, kind and intelligent critique
> of the local radio stations, their formats and their
> deejays, PD's, GM's, CEO's. etc.
>
> Anyway, that's my two cents.
>
>
> Oh, by the way, did you hear the rumor that KLSD might go
> back to being "KGB-AM" and bring back the Boss Jocks?
>
C
collinsradio
Guest
Re: Speculation stopper/Garrett's post
KM Richards seems to want to edit, control, and
direct posts. I don't agree with Garrett often, but
he has a right to speculate without being hammered
by the moderator.
KM Richards seems to want to edit, control, and
direct posts. I don't agree with Garrett often, but
he has a right to speculate without being hammered
by the moderator.
Re: Speculation stopper/Garrett's post
> KM Richards seems to want to edit, control, and
> direct posts. I don't agree with Garrett often, but
> he has a right to speculate without being hammered
> by the moderator.
>
Thanks, but I don't even agree with me on this one.
It is, afterall, a privately owned website, and as I noted (and was illustrated), a simple suggestion can quickly became a nasty rumor, which can make it's way into news, and the owners could get sued.
It is frustrating that we now can not talk about a stations ratings points, or possiblities. All we can do is make suggestions about what we would like, or what we don't like and those have to be backed up. But it's not a public site, so them's the the breaks I'm afraid...
> KM Richards seems to want to edit, control, and
> direct posts. I don't agree with Garrett often, but
> he has a right to speculate without being hammered
> by the moderator.
>
Thanks, but I don't even agree with me on this one.
It is, afterall, a privately owned website, and as I noted (and was illustrated), a simple suggestion can quickly became a nasty rumor, which can make it's way into news, and the owners could get sued.
It is frustrating that we now can not talk about a stations ratings points, or possiblities. All we can do is make suggestions about what we would like, or what we don't like and those have to be backed up. But it's not a public site, so them's the the breaks I'm afraid...
I
ibezdechi
Guest
Re: Speculation stopper/Garrett's post
Nobody would get sued, as it would be a VERY hard case to do.
Hard case = $$$$$$
> > KM Richards seems to want to edit, control, and
> > direct posts. I don't agree with Garrett often, but
> > he has a right to speculate without being hammered
> > by the moderator.
> >
>
> Thanks, but I don't even agree with me on this one.
> It is, afterall, a privately owned website, and as I noted
> (and was illustrated), a simple suggestion can quickly
> became a nasty rumor, which can make it's way into news, and
> the owners could get sued.
>
> It is frustrating that we now can not talk about a stations
> ratings points, or possiblities. All we can do is make
> suggestions about what we would like, or what we don't like
> and those have to be backed up. But it's not a public site,
> so them's the the breaks I'm afraid...
>
Nobody would get sued, as it would be a VERY hard case to do.
Hard case = $$$$$$
> > KM Richards seems to want to edit, control, and
> > direct posts. I don't agree with Garrett often, but
> > he has a right to speculate without being hammered
> > by the moderator.
> >
>
> Thanks, but I don't even agree with me on this one.
> It is, afterall, a privately owned website, and as I noted
> (and was illustrated), a simple suggestion can quickly
> became a nasty rumor, which can make it's way into news, and
> the owners could get sued.
>
> It is frustrating that we now can not talk about a stations
> ratings points, or possiblities. All we can do is make
> suggestions about what we would like, or what we don't like
> and those have to be backed up. But it's not a public site,
> so them's the the breaks I'm afraid...
>
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