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ABC Pulls Jimmy Kimmel Live

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Don CT said:
With the Kimmel family against the Colbert family!
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Now THAT would be great entertainment! Kimmel vs. Colbert, followed by Fallon vs. Meyers. Or maybe the Lenos vs. the Lettermans. Paging Steve Harvey...anyone?

DtotheJ: Nexstar's 30+ ABC affiliates pulled it, and ABC pulled the program not just because of the FCC complaints, but because of the revenue losses.
Think of when NYPD Blue went to air. Didn't it get pulled from like 10-15 stations?
 
@crainbebo - I remember when some spineless ABC affiliates yanked that show. It brings to mind when a slew of FOX affiliates delayed or refused to air Ozzy Osbourne's "Osbournes Reloaded" whose lead in was "American Idol." Ironically, the Milwaukee FOX affiliate followed "Idol" that night with a town hall on drug use.
 
Meanwhile...

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Trump Celebrates After ABC Suspends ‘Jimmy Kimmel Live!’ Over Charlie Kirk Shooting Comments

"Congratulations to ABC for finally having the courage to do what had to be done," the president wrote on social media.
www.hollywoodreporter.com www.hollywoodreporter.com

After attending a state dinner earlier in the evening, the president took to Truth Social at 1 a.m. in the U.K., writing, “Great News for America: The ratings challenged Jimmy Kimmel Show is CANCELLED. Congratulations to ABC for finally having the courage to do what had to be done. Kimmel has ZERO talent, and worse ratings than even Colbert, if that’s possible. That leaves Jimmy and Seth, two total losers, on Fake News NBC. Their ratings are also horrible. Do it NBC!!! President DJT”
 
DToTheJ said:
Meanwhile...

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Trump Celebrates After ABC Suspends ‘Jimmy Kimmel Live!’ Over Charlie Kirk Shooting Comments

"Congratulations to ABC for finally having the courage to do what had to be done," the president wrote on social media.
www.hollywoodreporter.com www.hollywoodreporter.com

After attending a state dinner earlier in the evening, the president took to Truth Social at 1 a.m. in the U.K., writing, “Great News for America: The ratings challenged Jimmy Kimmel Show is CANCELLED. Congratulations to ABC for finally having the courage to do what had to be done. Kimmel has ZERO talent, and worse ratings than even Colbert, if that’s possible. That leaves Jimmy and Seth, two total losers, on Fake News NBC. Their ratings are also horrible. Do it NBC!!! President DJT”
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I bet King Charlies is rolling over in his grave right now.
 
DToTheJ said:
Meanwhile...

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Trump Celebrates After ABC Suspends ‘Jimmy Kimmel Live!’ Over Charlie Kirk Shooting Comments

"Congratulations to ABC for finally having the courage to do what had to be done," the president wrote on social media.
www.hollywoodreporter.com www.hollywoodreporter.com

After attending a state dinner earlier in the evening, the president took to Truth Social at 1 a.m. in the U.K., writing, “Great News for America: The ratings challenged Jimmy Kimmel Show is CANCELLED. Congratulations to ABC for finally having the courage to do what had to be done. Kimmel has ZERO talent, and worse ratings than even Colbert, if that’s possible. That leaves Jimmy and Seth, two total losers, on Fake News NBC. Their ratings are also horrible. Do it NBC!!! President DJT”
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Totally not an authoritarian hellscape.
 
TheBigA said:
Kimmel is an entertainer, not a journalist. According to Rush and Hannity, that exempts him from the facts.
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When you say something that has amply been proven wrong on national television as the premise for an opinion or comment, there is no exemption for lying.

Your comment fits nicely in the radical opinions that the killing of opposing voices is somehow permissible. Several national surveys have shown a significant number of Americans who find that incidents like the murder of the United Health Care CEO is justifiable as a "sentence" for his "crimes" in putting conditions on insurance payments.

The accused murderer of Kirk seems to have texted his partner saying that his action was justified and had to be done. The text is on nearly every news site in the world.

I know that when I was consultant to the VOA's Radio Martí program, that service had a policy of censure and dismissal for knowingly distorting or changing news items to further an agenda.

I've done more than two dozen all news and news-talk stations, half in the US and half in countries like Argentina, Puerto Rico, the Dominican Republic and Ecuador. Anyone doing a talk show that lied about known facts would be immediately suspended, and then judged by a team of managers to see if dismissal was warranted. In the meantime, the station would have run an apology or clarification across at least the next 24 hours.
 
crainbebo said:
Also: I can't see how Carr can pull the license of a major television network. There's too much risk, given that they have several popular shows in primetime. Worst case scenario: what would happen if the administration yanked ABC's license? Do 200 TV stations instantly become independents or what?
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The eight ABC O&Os have FCC licenses. Take those away, and it immediately weakens the OTA network.
 
"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out – because I was not a socialist.
"Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out – because I was not a trade unionist.
"Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out – because I was not a Jew.
"Then they came for me –and there was no one left to speak for me."
– Martin Niemöller
 
Don CT said:
What rules were broken.
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The FCC rules don't specify what constitutes profanity (there is no list of words) or obscenity (there is no description of what is or is not obscene). Similarly, there is no listing or description of what is operation in community interests and needs, but the Commission can certainly investigate and open hearings if they believe that a licensee has done something that is not within such boundaries.

For example, there was a morning show on a small station in South Carolina where the morning show made "dirty" comments. Upon investigation, the licensee was sanctions for content. This is just one case of where the FCC has investigated and found a station and its programming to violate the broad responsibilities of licensees.

In a non-content situation, the FCC has lots of specific technical rules. But if a station is inspected and has what we might call "messy engineering" they can be cited for violating "good engineering practices".

In other words, there are many areas in which the FCC can investigate and sanction licensees for what might be called "bad behaviour".
 
davideduardo said:
The FCC rules don't specify what constitutes profanity (there is no list of words) or obscenity (there is no description of what is or is not obscene). Similarly, there is no listing or description of what is operation in community interests and needs, but the Commission can certainly investigate and open hearings if they believe that a licensee has done something that is not within such boundaries.

For example, there was a morning show on a small station in South Carolina where the morning show made "dirty" comments. Upon investigation, the licensee was sanctions for content. This is just one case of where the FCC has investigated and found a station and its programming to violate the broad responsibilities of licensees.

In a non-content situation, the FCC has lots of specific technical rules. But if a station is inspected and has what we might call "messy engineering" they can be cited for violating "good engineering practices".

In other words, there are many areas in which the FCC can investigate and sanction licensees for what might be called "bad behaviour".
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So it’s a mob hit.
 
davideduardo said:
When you say something that has amply been proven wrong on national television as the premise for an opinion or comment, there is no exemption for lying.
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Both “sides” have been alleged. There has not even been an evidentiary hearing held. Kimmel could have said the world was flat as a pizza, and been lying. The FCC chair would have had the same grounds for making a threat—none. But as we’ve seen again and again, this level of concern for “facts” isn’t exactly all-encompassing. So long as the government is pursuing those deemed bad, these outlandish overreaches are great.
davideduardo said:
Your comment fits nicely in the radical opinions that the killing of opposing voices is somehow permissible.
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It does no such thing.

davideduardo said:
Several national surveys have shown a significant number of Americans who find that incidents like the murder of the United Health Care CEO is justifiable as a "sentence" for his "crimes" in putting conditions on insurance payments.
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And a significant number of people think January 6 and the gallows brought for the Vice President and Speaker were perfectly awesome.

Are we the thought police now?
davideduardo said:
The accused murderer of Kirk seems to have texted his partner saying that his action was justified and had to be done. The text is on nearly every news site in the world.
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Seems. Setting aside the texts have no documentation as to what service they came from and read in a way virtually no twenty-something ever says, let alone texts, the key word is, in fact, “seem.”


davideduardo said:
I know that when I was consultant to the VOA's Radio Martí program, that service had a policy of censure and dismissal for knowingly distorting or changing news items to further an agenda.
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Bully for you. We’re not talking about that. We’re talking about a late night talk show.

davideduardo said:
I've done more than two dozen all news and news-talk stations, half in the US and half in countries like Argentina, Puerto Rico, the Dominican Republic and Ecuador.
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We know. Also not the same.

davideduardo said:
Anyone doing a talk show that lied about known facts would be immediately suspended, and then judged by a team of managers to see if dismissal was warranted.
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And you were of course as similarly advocating for the firing of talk show hosts on broadcast radio who lie and distort as their entire schtick.
davideduardo said:
In the meantime, the station would have run an apology or clarification across at least the next 24 hours.
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Did that happen here when Limbaugh lied? When Hannity does? Levin? Bongino? Anyone on Fox News?
 
crainbebo said:
DtotheJ: Nexstar's 30+ ABC affiliates pulled it, and ABC pulled the program not just because of the FCC complaints, but because of the revenue losses.
Think of when NYPD Blue went to air. Didn't it get pulled from like 10-15 stations?
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NYPD Blue is one of only two serial network TV dramas I have watched more than once. When I become a little obstinate, my wife calls me "Sipowicz".

The first episodes, place in the year that they were broadcast, were definitely pushing the envelope. Some stations said they did not push it, but blew it up with air and popped it! And they initially would not carry the show.

In some markets, even that recently, that show was very avant garde.

Then go further back and think of "All in the Family" :

Yes, some local television stations refused to air episodes of All in the Family, particularly during its original run from 1971 to 1979. The show's controversial and envelope-pushing content, which addressed heated social and political issues, made it a source of contention for many local affiliates. (Google AI response to "did any local stations refuse to run All in the Family")
 
Leaving politics aside, the show only had an average of 1.7 million or so viewers out of a country of over 340 million people. ABC/Disney is pretty liberal and yet apparently felt that letting the show continue was more of a liability than what it was worth. So they abandoned even their normally left leaning principles and made a business decision. Whether folks like it or not, with entities that own broadcasting licenses it's all about the bottom line. And that's nothing new
 
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