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ADL responds to Rhodes comments

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Randi Rhodes compared hurricane evacuees to the deportion of Jews to Auschwitz.
News Busters publishes the comments as well as the Anti-Defamation League's
response to the AAR host.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1501178/posts

"While we appreciate the fact that talk radio is unscripted, the analogy comparing rescue operations --as mismanaged as they may have been --to Auschwitz deportations is a perversion of morality and history. The government's flawed attempt was intended to save lives, not exterminate them."<P ID="signature">______________
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> Randi Rhodes compared hurricane evacuees to the deportion of Jews to Auschwitz.
> News Busters publishes the comments as well as the Anti-Defamation League's
> response to the AAR host.

The lack of creativity on the part of people who compare everything they consider wrong to Jews and Nazis is breathtaking. The formula:
  1. Compare any slight, no matter how minor, to Nazis persecuting Jews.
  2. Get ADL form letter with demand for apology saying this trivializes The Holocaust.
  3. Deliver the "I'm sorry if my remarks offended anyone" non-apology.
I half-expect the guy in New Orleans who got roughed up by a bunch of goon cops to compare The French Quarter to Auschwitz.<P ID="signature">______________
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> Randi Rhodes compared hurricane evacuees to the deportion of
> Jews to Auschwitz.
> News Busters publishes the comments as well as the
> Anti-Defamation League's
> response to the AAR host.
>
> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1501178/posts
>
> "While we appreciate the fact that talk radio is unscripted,
> the analogy comparing rescue operations --as mismanaged as
> they may have been --to Auschwitz deportations is a
> perversion of morality and history. The government's flawed
> attempt was intended to save lives, not exterminate them."
>

First, the first sentence from the linked article ,"When Media Matters took out of context a statement Bill Bennett made on his radio show, the mainstream media were more than willing to comply and show outrage over his remarks" . Is complete BS. Anyone who looked at Mediamatters website knows that what Bill Bennett said, was given full context. It's not mediamatters fault that Bennett said something stupid. Did the media pile on, yes. Did he deserve it, people may have differing opinions.

Any time you reference the holocaust, or nazi's you are on shaky ground. We've seen this numerous times within in the last year. Clearly this is not one of Rhodes better analogies, but she wasn't equating the result of the movement of people, just the fact that they were not told where they were going, and that families were separated.
 
> Randi Rhodes compared hurricane evacuees to the deportion of
> Jews to Auschwitz.
> News Busters publishes the comments as well as the
> Anti-Defamation League's
> response to the AAR host.
>
> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1501178/posts
>
> "While we appreciate the fact that talk radio is unscripted,
> the analogy comparing rescue operations --as mismanaged as
> they may have been --to Auschwitz deportations is a
> perversion of morality and history. The government's flawed
> attempt was intended to save lives, not exterminate them."
>
Again, people don't know when to stop. They can't treat each case individually. What happened to the Jews and other minorities of Europe during WW2 due to the Nazi swine can not be compared with any other action and doing so belittles the sufferening during the hollicaust.

What happend in the Gulf while tragic was not caused by the governments attempt to exterminate citizens of the United States. Why don't these talk show hosts realize that by going overboard they destroy their own argument, no matter how vaild it might be.
 
> Randi Rhodes compared hurricane evacuees to the deportion of
> Jews to Auschwitz.

What more does it take to prove that the bigots of
the extreme left are just as vile, venomous, and vicious
as the bigots of the extreme right?

She's disgraceful.

73s from 954

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Why some AAR affiliates drop her completely...

This sort of over-the-top comparison is exactly why I can only take about 15 minutes of Randi Rhodes, and why some AAR affiliates drop her completely. I know she is intelligent enough to have some restraint when she talks, but like the extreme "liberal" that she is, she is incapable of self regulation.

I know free speech is great, but I hear Rhodes daily making equally foolish statements as well as insightful gems. What she needs is a "switch person" who would cut her off when she starts to sound stupid and fade to country western music. That'd make the show more tolerable.<P ID="signature">______________
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> > Randi Rhodes compared hurricane evacuees to the deportion
> of
> > Jews to Auschwitz.
>
> What more does it take to prove that the bigots of
> the extreme left are just as vile, venomous, and vicious
> as the bigots of the extreme right?
>
> She's disgraceful.
>
> 73s from 954
>

I don't see how anything she said was bigoted. She mentioned that the people were being taken out of the city, but noone was being told where they were going. She also stated that children were separated from their parents. She used these factors to compare it to the separation and transportation of people in the holocaust. Nowhere did she say the final results, or the goals of those transporting people were in anyway similar to those in the holocaust. I'm sure that she wouldn't have visited a holocaust museum in the first place, if she had a bigoted outlook.

You would think by now that politicians and political talk show hosts would stay away from any comparison of current events to the holocaust.

As we have seen, they haven't figured that out yet.
 
Sorry, but I don't go to links to Racist Websites

> Randi Rhodes compared hurricane evacuees to the deportion of
> Jews to Auschwitz.
> News Busters publishes the comments as well as the
> Anti-Defamation League's
> response to the AAR host.
>
> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1501178/posts
>
> "While we appreciate the fact that talk radio is unscripted,
> the analogy comparing rescue operations --as mismanaged as
> they may have been --to Auschwitz deportations is a
> perversion of morality and history. The government's flawed
> attempt was intended to save lives, not exterminate them."
>


Please refrain from posting links to known racist websites. It does your argument no good. Freerepublic has known racists on their website. It's just one step removed from the Klan.
 
Logic Games--Logic 1, RBA 0

> > Randi Rhodes compared hurricane evacuees to the deportion
> of
> > Jews to Auschwitz.
> > News Busters publishes the comments as well as the
> > Anti-Defamation League's
> > response to the AAR host.
> >
> > http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1501178/posts
>
> >
> > "While we appreciate the fact that talk radio is
> unscripted,
> > the analogy comparing rescue operations --as mismanaged as
>
> > they may have been --to Auschwitz deportations is a
> > perversion of morality and history. The government's
> flawed
> > attempt was intended to save lives, not exterminate them."
>
> >
>
>
> Please refrain from posting links to known racist websites.
> It does your argument no good. Freerepublic has known
> racists on their website. It's just one step removed from
> the Klan.
>

Interesting. Do they let you out at night, or is Art Bell your bunk mate. Bob Barr live down the hall? And does Karl Rove live in your bathroom, constantly plotting to put Kool-Aid in your showerhead?

Come on--Free Republic is a general topic board. You cannot graft onto the entire open board the perceived opinions of certain posters. I'm sure some posters here, and some probably have advocated, some socialist positions. Is Radio-Info, then, a socialist board? The answer is no.

One step removed from the Klan? What or who is that step? Or is that just conjecture on your behalf?

Your logic has a kink in it. Suggest you double back and try to unknot it.
 
Re: Logic Games--Logic 1, RBA 0

> > > Randi Rhodes compared hurricane evacuees to the
> deportion
> > of
> > > Jews to Auschwitz.
> > > News Busters publishes the comments as well as the
> > > Anti-Defamation League's
> > > response to the AAR host.
> > >
> > >
> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1501178/posts
> >
> > >
> > > "While we appreciate the fact that talk radio is
> > unscripted,
> > > the analogy comparing rescue operations --as mismanaged
> as
> >
> > > they may have been --to Auschwitz deportations is a
> > > perversion of morality and history. The government's
> > flawed
> > > attempt was intended to save lives, not exterminate
> them."
> >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Please refrain from posting links to known racist
> websites.
> > It does your argument no good. Freerepublic has known
> > racists on their website. It's just one step removed from
>
> > the Klan.
> >
>
> Interesting. Do they let you out at night, or is Art Bell
> your bunk mate. Bob Barr live down the hall? And does Karl
> Rove live in your bathroom, constantly plotting to put
> Kool-Aid in your showerhead?
>
> Come on--Free Republic is a general topic board. You cannot
> graft onto the entire open board the perceived opinions of
> certain posters. I'm sure some posters here, and some
> probably have advocated, some socialist positions. Is
> Radio-Info, then, a socialist board? The answer is no.
>
> One step removed from the Klan? What or who is that step?
> Or is that just conjecture on your behalf?
>
> Your logic has a kink in it. Suggest you double back and
> try to unknot it.
>
Yes, the posters are racist. But I'm more concern with the racist who runs the website. The one that says it costs him $70,000 to run the website every quarter.
 
> "While we appreciate the fact that talk radio is unscripted,
> the analogy comparing rescue operations --as mismanaged as
> they may have been --to Auschwitz deportations is a
> perversion of morality and history. The government's flawed
> attempt was intended to save lives, not exterminate them."

What is "convenient" about the Free Republic blog campaign against Randi (nothing new with this at all - they also suggest talking points to hostile callers to libtalk hosts) includes:

1) A carefully edited version of the ADL letter which leaves out their acknowledgment of the absolute mismanagement of the Katrina relief effort (something that could have been negative to the Free Republic's joined-at-the-hip defense of the current Administration on just about every issue).

2) The fact that Randi, herself, IS JEWISH. The Free Republic wants conservatives to equate Bill Bennett's comments on black babies being aborted with Randi Rhodes remarks. Bill Bennett, the white guy, claims to be able to speak authoritatively on black social and crime issues and openly ponders mass abortions of black babies to keep crime down while Randi Rhodes, a Jew, compares government officials lining people up and pointing moms and dads to one train or bus, kids to another.

The ADL has a consistent policy of responding to anyone trivializing or even comparing the Holocaust to other world events. To them, this tragedy has to stand on its own as a singular event in our history. The atrocities themselves, the absolute anti-semitism that permitted it to happen, and the indifference that many world leaders (including our own) had towards stopping it. I can understand the ADL's concerns about it, and Randi probably will as well.

Conservatives and Republicans that seek to make hay out of this should be extremely careful lest a review of the past 40 years' history of the party on race and Jewish issues be examined. The boll weavil Democrats went somewhere when the 64 Civil Rights Act was passed. There is definitely a credibility gap at play should the likes of Pat Buchanan, Trent Lott, or David Duke, all Republicans, start telling us that Randi Rhodes is an anti-semite or tell us Strom Thurmond's policies back in 1948 would have been the best choice for America.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by dampier on 10/13/05 02:09 PM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: Logic Games--Logic 1, RBA 0

> Come on--Free Republic is a general topic board. You cannot
> graft onto the entire open board the perceived opinions of
> certain posters. I'm sure some posters here, and some
> probably have advocated, some socialist positions. Is
> Radio-Info, then, a socialist board? The answer is no.

Major freeper campaigns erupt from the Free Republic site against libtalk radio and websites. The talking points get distributed and then you get the hostile callers reading them. Many libtalk hosts monitor the Free Republic site because of the inevitable calls that result.
 
> She's disgraceful.

She's Jewish so the suggestions she is anti-semitic fall apart, and you never heard her remarks. You read the selectively quoted part the Free Republic put on their blog site.

I want to hear Bill Bennett calling her a bigot so I can watch a tear occur in the very fabric of space, permitting the universe's largest pot make contact with the universe's largest kettle.
 
Which AAR affiliates drop her completely?...

> This sort of over-the-top comparison is exactly why I can
> only take about 15 minutes of Randi Rhodes, and why some AAR
> affiliates drop her completely.

I don't especially like Rhodes and don't listen to her often. However, where did you get the idea that "some AAR affiliates drop her completely?" As far as I know, almost all AAR affiliates carry both Franken and Rhodes. Some delay her until after Schultz, which works to her advantage in the west, putting her into drive time. But which affiliates have "dropped" Rhodes?
 
Clear Channel's renegade programming...

> But which affiliates have "dropped" Rhodes?
Maybe the word "dropped" was too absolute. I spent the summer in Spokane and listened to Clear Channel's 1280. I got plenty of Schultz but never heard Rhodes. They typically had a local show on in that slot although the website lists Rhodes. I knew thay had Rhodes on because other people had told me thay heard her on in the drivetime.

Same with CC's 760 Boulder, although I have heard people say they heard Rhodes on after Schultz, I never heard her myself. KKZN seems very free to shuffle schedules to their immediate liking.

In general, Clear Channel seems to be a wildcard in the programming area. Plenty of muscle to do whatever they want programming wise.<P ID="signature">______________
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>
>
> What is "convenient" about the Free Republic blog campaign
> against Randi (nothing new with this at all - they also
> suggest talking points to hostile callers to libtalk hosts)
> includes:
>


it's from the ADL, not rightwingers.

> 1) A carefully edited version of the ADL letter which leaves
> out their acknowledgment of the absolute mismanagement of
> the Katrina relief effort (something that could have been
> negative to the Free Republic's joined-at-the-hip defense of
> the current Administration on just about every issue).
>

this is spin


> 2) The fact that Randi, herself, IS JEWISH. The Free
> Republic wants conservatives to equate Bill Bennett's
> comments on black babies being aborted with Randi Rhodes
> remarks. Bill Bennett, the white guy, claims to be able to
> speak authoritatively on black social and crime issues and
> openly ponders mass abortions of black babies to keep crime
> down while Randi Rhodes, a Jew, compares government
> officials lining people up and pointing moms and dads to one
> train or bus, kids to another.

where did you get this crap?

>
> The ADL has a consistent policy of responding to anyone
> trivializing or even comparing the Holocaust to other world
> events. To them, this tragedy has to stand on its own as a
> singular event in our history. The atrocities themselves,
> the absolute anti-semitism that permitted it to happen, and
> the indifference that many world leaders (including our own)
> had towards stopping it. I can understand the ADL's
> concerns about it, and Randi probably will as well.
>

Randi's too strung out to understand anything.
 
Re: Clear Channel's renegade programming...

> Maybe the word "dropped" was too absolute. I spent the
> summer in Spokane and listened to Clear Channel's 1280. I
> got plenty of Schultz but never heard Rhodes. They typically
> had a local show on in that slot although the website lists
> Rhodes. I knew thay had Rhodes on because other people had
> told me thay heard her on in the drivetime.

et al... in other words, you are folding on your claim that stations are dropping Rhodes. Rhodes show is often time-shifted to make room for Schultz on Clear Channel stations. Nothing new there at all.
 
> Randi's too strung out to understand anything.

You mean on post-chemo drugs?

Wow...I'm embarrassed for you for such a simple-minded, baseless attack.
 
CC have some affiliation with Jones Nework?

> Rhodes show is often
> time-shifted to make room for Schultz on Clear Channel
> stations. Nothing new there at all.
However, in the 2 cases I have listed previously Rhodes is standby programming in case there is no local show. So "time-shifted" may not be entirely accurate.

I wonder if CC has some affiliation with Jones Nework? On their liberal stations is Schutz an official anchorman? From what I hear it seems like it.<P ID="signature">______________
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