AGAIN....Q100/ATLANTA COMPLETELY IGNORING A TOP 10 RECORD.....

[electroboy73]

This time around, it's DRAKE ft. RIHANNA "Take Care". Seriously! What gives?! ???

 

[The Outsider]

It is not just Q100 that have ignored it so far, it is most of, if not all of, the Cumulus Mainstream CHRs.

 

[atlantaboy]

My guess - they think by playing too much Drake on Q100 they'll lose listeners to Star, same as the Nicki Minaj thing - just like they think by adding Gotye too early they'll turn off conservative Atlanta listeners who think it sounds "weird"

Then, as usual, they have tons of other stations going by the same playlist as Q100, which of course is dumb

 

[carolinaradio]

I just don't understand it. Why does every other station have to suffer just for Q100 and its needs? Why can't there be a Q100 playlist, a smaller market playlist, and a playlist for the medium/larger market CHR's if they can't at least let the stations have some say as far as adds?

I'm starting to think Q100 should just go Hot AC and let Wild take over CHR...what CHR still plays "Drops Of Jupiter" or "Killing Me Softly?"

 

[TheMusicMan]

I don't think Cumulus is modeling their other CHRs strictly BECAUSE Q100 sounds the way it does, I just think Q100 happens to be the flagship.

Q100 is nothing special musically or otherwise (mornings aside), but sadly, they still sound light-years ahead of where they were in 2006-09. Now THAT was some horrible radio.

They'll never go straight Hot AC, it's far too contrary to the hip image they've cultivated for themselves regardless of their musical tendencies. What's more, Star 94 does Hot AC WAY better than any Cumulus effort would yield. I think Bull and Project are too successful for CC to move Wild to a 100kw stick, but I'd love to see CBS give CHR a whirl on 92.9...

 

[atlantaboy]

I'm starting to think Q100 should just go Hot AC and let Wild take over CHR

I don't think there's any doubt that Q100 is Hot AC during the workday - but then it gets extremely current-based and younger-leaning once kids get out of school for the day, which is why big rhythmic-leaning hits only show up with 16 plays per week - trust me, you won't hear Drops Of Jupiter at 7 p. m. at night when kids are listening

Once again, though, I have no clue whose idea it was to take a conservative pop playlist and impose it on both CHRs and Hot ACs in liberal markets, especially stations like WPRO that were rating double digits before the "takeover" with cutting-edge playlists

 

[TheMusicMan]

I still wouldn't quite call Q100 a Hot AC during the workday. True Hot ACs don't play Pitbull and Flo Rida all day, nor do they play One Direction or Calvin Harris much yet - and they certainly don't play "California Love" as a gold.

Having said that, Q obviously has a decided adult skew and a pronounced gold component during middays in an attempt to combat Star. Many of the golds are questionable. The various Destiny's Child, TLC and INOJ golds make the station sound dated, even if you're trying to be a Hot AC and more so if you're trying to be a CHR. Vertical Horizon and Train, while great songs and perfect for HAC, sound disjointed coming out of Flo Rida or Pitbull. You are right that all of these golds disappear as soon as 3PM hits.

I haven't seen numbers in a few months, but in the last ones I did see, Star and B98.5 both cleaned Q100's clock in middays for the 25-54 demographic. Q's 18-34 midday numbers were strong, so maybe Q should take the hint and ditch the bizarre golds and their at-work listening dreams...

 

[atlantaboy]

Vertical Horizon and Train, while great songs and perfect for HAC, sound disjointed coming out of Flo Rida or Pitbull.

No offense, but this is the thinking that has caused CHR to sound homogenized over the last couple years - look at the double digit ratings of some independently-owned CHRs that play Seether into Justin Bieber - and check out the I-Pods of some 18-34 year old women and I guarantee you'll see a much broader taste in music than Clear Channel and Cumulus would have you believe...

 

[RadioPhillyFan]

That song is horrible, it's a good song to miss.

 

[TheMusicMan]

Vertical Horizon and Train, while great songs and perfect for HAC, sound disjointed coming out of Flo Rida or Pitbull.

No offense, but this is the thinking that has caused CHR to sound homogenized over the last couple years - look at the double digit ratings of some independently-owned CHRs that play Seether into Justin Bieber - and check out the I-Pods of some 18-34 year old women and I guarantee you'll see a much broader taste in music than Clear Channel and Cumulus would have you believe...

With the Vertical Horizon and Train, I'm talking more about the age and associated feel of the songs than the variety aspect. Coming out of a very current, slick sounding pop record (Pitbull, Flo Rida or whoever) and heading straight into a downtempo, 10+ year old gold that inherently FEELS Hot AC is the issue...not the fact that the latter is a guitar-based song.

Pitbull into Gotye or even Pitbull into Andy Grammer still feels fresh because they both sound current, which is what CHR should theoretically be about.

 

[MattHollidaye OnAir]

Why am I not surprised that Q100 is avoiding a Top 10 hit AGAIN?

 

[RadioPhillyFan]

Why am I not surprised that Q100 is avoiding a Top 10 hit AGAIN?

Well, take a listen to the song. It has little appeal to the demographic of a Pop CHR, it plays on Urban stations, this is where it belongs.

 

[atlantaboy]

Vertical Horizon and Train, while great songs and perfect for HAC, sound disjointed coming out of Flo Rida or Pitbull.

No offense, but this is the thinking that has caused CHR to sound homogenized over the last couple years - look at the double digit ratings of some independently-owned CHRs that play Seether into Justin Bieber - and check out the I-Pods of some 18-34 year old women and I guarantee you'll see a much broader taste in music than Clear Channel and Cumulus would have you believe...

With the Vertical Horizon and Train, I'm talking more about the age and associated feel of the songs than the variety aspect. Coming out of a very current, slick sounding pop record (Pitbull, Flo Rida or whoever) and heading straight into a downtempo, 10+ year old gold that inherently FEELS Hot AC is the issue...not the fact that the latter is a guitar-based song.

Pitbull into Gotye or even Pitbull into Andy Grammer still feels fresh because they both sound current, which is what CHR should theoretically be about.

You gotta keep in mind, though, Q100 is trying as hard as it can to get played in the office during the workday - their audience is mostly females in their 20s/30s that instantly recognize Everything You Want or Drops Of Jupiter as one of their favorite songs - because they want offices to keep them on for 5-6 hours a day, they can't just keep playing currents over and over (especially with the limited number of currents Cumulus lets stations add)

I'm also not that sure that your average listener cares as much whether a song was released in 2009 vs. 2001, or that they even know how old the song is - Q100 definitely isn't trying to sound "fresh" anyway - it's trying to sound safe and familiar

 

[atlantaboy]

^Just to clarify, I heard a sweeper for Q100 last week with the title "All The Hits..." into snippets of Stereo Hearts and Pumped Up Kicks, two songs which are now at least 6 months old - they definitely don't have any intention of sounding "fresh"

 

[RadioPhillyFan]

^Just to clarify, I heard a sweeper for Q100 last week with the title "All The Hits..." into snippets of Stereo Hearts and Pumped Up Kicks, two songs which are now at least 6 months old - they definitely don't have any intention of sounding "fresh"

Sounds like a Hot AC leaning CHR, or an Adult Leaning CHR.

The song "Take Care" by Drake and Rihanna isn't as common on a lot of Pop CHR's as a usual Top 10, it's extremely Rythmetic. It is on the playlist of two Urban stations here (WUSL and WPHI) and not even daily rotation of a Pop-leaning Rythmetic CHR (WRDW)

 

[MattHollidaye OnAir]

Why am I not surprised that Q100 is avoiding a Top 10 hit AGAIN?

Well, take a listen to the song. It has little appeal to the demographic of a Pop CHR, it plays on Urban stations, this is where it belongs.

I beg to differ.......there are several Pop/CHR stations across America that has it in rotation (not to mention it's #11 on the Hot 100 and #8 on the Pop charts, according to Billboard, if that counts for anything).

Disregarding Billboard, it's #8 on the Top 40 Mainstream charts posted by Mediabase (notice I said TOP 40 MAINSTREAM)

Yes it appeals to Urban stations, but look at the numbers. It also appeals to Pop audiences as well. Care to dispute?

 

[Slinky]

The song "Take Care" by Drake and Rihanna isn't as common on a lot of Pop CHR's as a usual Top 10, it's extremely Rythmetic. It is on the playlist of two Urban stations here (WUSL and WPHI) and not even daily rotation of a Pop-leaning Rythmetic CHR (WRDW)

WRDW spun Take Care 119 times this week.

In addition, WIOQ played it 53 times (#11 on their playlist). It is a top 10 hit nationally on both major CHR charts (Mediabase and Billboard). Can't get too much more Pop-friendly than that.

 

[RadioPhillyFan]

Why am I not surprised that Q100 is avoiding a Top 10 hit AGAIN?

Well, take a listen to the song. It has little appeal to the demographic of a Pop CHR, it plays on Urban stations, this is where it belongs.

I beg to differ.......there are several Pop/CHR stations across America that has it in rotation (not to mention it's #11 on the Hot 100 and #8 on the Pop charts, according to Billboard, if that counts for anything).

Disregarding Billboard, it's #8 on the Top 40 Mainstream charts posted by Mediabase (notice I said TOP 40 MAINSTREAM)

Yes it appeals to Urban stations, but look at the numbers. It also appeals to Pop audiences as well. Care to dispute?

 

[RadioPhillyFan]

The song "Take Care" by Drake and Rihanna isn't as common on a lot of Pop CHR's as a usual Top 10, it's extremely Rythmetic. It is on the playlist of two Urban stations here (WUSL and WPHI) and not even daily rotation of a Pop-leaning Rythmetic CHR (WRDW)

WRDW spun Take Care 119 times this week.

In addition, WIOQ played it 53 times (#11 on their playlist). It is a top 10 hit nationally on both major CHR charts (Mediabase and Billboard). Can't get too much more Pop-friendly than that.

WIOQ is a half assed CHR, WPST is the better CHR in the Philly area, how many times did they spin "Take Care"?

 

[The Outsider]

The song "Take Care" by Drake and Rihanna isn't as common on a lot of Pop CHR's as a usual Top 10, it's extremely Rythmetic. It is on the playlist of two Urban stations here (WUSL and WPHI) and not even daily rotation of a Pop-leaning Rythmetic CHR (WRDW)

WRDW spun Take Care 119 times this week.

In addition, WIOQ played it 53 times (#11 on their playlist). It is a top 10 hit nationally on both major CHR charts (Mediabase and Billboard). Can't get too much more Pop-friendly than that.

WIOQ is a half assed CHR, WPST is the better CHR in the Philly area, how many times did they spin "Take Care"?

WPST has played "Take Care" 49 times over the past 7 days. That makes it the number 10 song on their current playlist.