Air 1

[charles123]

When will we expect Air 1 to air on 101.7? They're saying the first quarter of 2013, what does that mean??

 

[texasstooge]

Sometime between now and the end of March.

 

[charles123]

Sometime between now and the end of March.

Thanks

 

[ahummel83]

Really? Interesting. How do you know that Air 1 will be in Dallas?

 

[Robert Bass]

I can confirm it as well, as I've heard it from a very reliable source who follows the K-Love / Air 1 stations.

R

 

[Ryan Williams]

And, the assumption is that EMF can't run K-Love in the Metroplex (because of KLUV).

I don't have any inside information, but I am not sure that assumption is correct.

 

[Robert Bass]

And, the assumption is that EMF can't run K-Love in the Metroplex (because of KLUV).

I don't have any inside information, but I am not sure that assumption is correct.

It is a very safe assumption at this point, per Lance Venta:

With CBS owned Classic Hits 98.7 KLUV owning the “K-Love” name in the Dallas market, our assumption is that 101.7 will run with the Air-1 Network when EMF takes over.

I strongly suspect CBS would object to the similar sounding name K-Love being used on another station in this market.

R

 

[xmusicmatt]

My understanding this will be Air1 when EMF's finally programming it..

 

[Ryan Williams]

I wasn't suggesting 101.7 would go K-Love, but rather I was skeptical about the assumption on naming being the primary concern. I thought Air1 made sense for other competitive reasons already mentioned.

Since my comment earlier, I have looked into it further and am changing my opinion: there are likely legal issues for using phonetically-similar branding in the same industry, especially considering the current trademark geographic areas.

CBS Radio's KLUV trademark is limited to a collection of counties in North Texas... http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4002:30mtgg.6.1

Univision's KLOVE trademark is limited to counties in Southern California and Southeast Texas... http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4003:tqayju.2.2

Educational Media Foundation's K-LOVE trademark covers the "entire United States and its territories and possessions" except for a group of counties in California and Texas that just so happen to be the same counties on the other two trademarks listed above... http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4003:tqayju.5.1

 

[ahummel83]

If Air 1 came into the mix how do you think it would effect the other Christian stations in the metroplex?

 

[salemjedi54]

If Air 1 came into the mix how do you think it would effect the other Christian stations in the metroplex?

Would not affect KGGR or KHVN.

 

[radioaircheck]

KLTY has a loyal audience. I don't hink it would hurt them much.

 

[sshuffield70]

Well, both KGGR and KHVN are black gospel stations. KLTY is, of course, Christian AC. KTCY would be Christian CHR. So the answer is.....not much.

 

[xmusicmatt]

Well, both KGGR and KHVN are black gospel stations. KLTY is, of course, Christian AC. KTCY would be Christian CHR. So the answer is.....not much.

Bingo.. and Power FM "KVRK" that folks get in parts of north Dallas is "Christian Rock" Air1 kinda fits in between everything else already in the market.

 

[bturner]

If anyone does hurt, it will be KLTY based solely on the KSBJ Houston ratings once Air One showed up on a rimshot. Some Christian AC listeners might prefer Christian CHR but simply find that in a market where there was no Christian CHR option, Christian AC is the best option.

 

[Mediafrog+]

One other tidbit that I heard about recently is that EMF applied for the replacement call letters KYDA.

EMF hasn't bothered to change the call of the FM it bought in Houston, but did change the call when it bought 97.7 in the San Antonio market.

 

[sshuffield70]

I'd have thought they'd keep it for Texas Christian Youth or something like that. But what do I know?

 

[rbrucecarter5]

Well, both KGGR and KHVN are black gospel stations. KLTY is, of course, Christian AC. KTCY would be Christian CHR. So the answer is.....not much.

Bingo.. and Power FM "KVRK" that folks get in parts of north Dallas is "Christian Rock" Air1 kinda fits in between everything else already in the market.

I think Air-1 is sensing a vulnerability in the business model of CCM stations. I've been involved in Christian broadcasting, and was faced with a creeping movement of "safe" mediocre "praise and worship" style CCM music. It was unstoppable. It devastated CCM and drove many good stations off the air, and a lot of people like me off the air for resisting it. !5 years later, you had the "soccer mom" demographic that supports CCM. But - just maybe - that business model is crumbling, and soccer moms are a bit more fun than slow, boring praise and worship music. Streaming is breaking the monopoly hold of the praise and worship types in Nashville - who made money, while avoiding most of the anti-CCM tirades on web sites and from prominent preachers. The desire for more up-tempo, more fun music is beginning to gain momentum, and Air-1's assault on KSBJ's ratings in Houston is just one example. I guess people like me were right - but at the wrong time. I am glad that praise and worship stranglehold is breaking down. Praise and worship is not, and never was real CCM. It was always more fit for church services than broadcast. I haven't found a single song in the entire genre that is really a "radio cut". I never played any of it on the air, because it would just be bad radio. But what do you do when Grandma Pharisee writes checks to support it, Reverend Bigbottom preaches against Christian rock, an his church's contemporary service is full of praise and worship - and station management buys into the praise and worship garbage? If you are trying to program Christian rock, you are OUT - all the way OUT. Times are better now, hopefully.

Air-1 does not go far enough. Better music exists, it always has - just not receiving recognition it deserves. Houston's KSBJ and Orlando's WPOZ are two stations that are way ahead of the curve now, they are programming the real thing - real Christian rock, real Christian hip-hop on HD-2, etc. - and beginning to add over the air outlets for them. Maybe they are seeing the beginning of the end of the praise and worship movement and want to survive financially when Jesus finally cleans the money-changers out of the temple (so to speak). Maybe they just want to shut up critics of praise and worship. I don't know. But new, creative, and most importantly EFFECTIVE outlets like NGEN, The Rock, and Power 95.9 are gaining ground fast, and will assure the survival of KSBJ and WPOZ into the future. KLTY has no need to do something creative like KSBJ and WPOZ, because Dallas already has an excellent Christian rock station - KVRK. You can be if KVRK wasn't there, KLTY would be all over the new formats just like KSBJ and WPOZ.

Enjoy Air-1, Dallas! Word of mouth in Houston has been incredible - everybody is hearing about and trying the "new" station. The play list is still slanted way too much towards old, tired praise and worship with several real clunkers played per hour, but at least they have some of the Christian rock artists and play them without looking over their shoulders in fear of criticism from anti-Christian rock types. By the way, those fears are far from unfounded. I had some real bad experiences with those types when I was on WAPN in Florida. We had incidents, threats, and calls laced with profanity from them. We had to add security as a result. There are some people that REALLY hate Christian rock music and do not want it to be on the radio.

 

[salemjedi54]

Well, both KGGR and KHVN are black gospel stations. KLTY is, of course, Christian AC. KTCY would be Christian CHR. So the answer is.....not much.

Bingo.. and Power FM "KVRK" that folks get in parts of north Dallas is "Christian Rock" Air1 kinda fits in between everything else already in the market.

I think Air-1 is sensing a vulnerability in the business model of CCM stations. I've been involved in Christian broadcasting, and was faced with a creeping movement of "safe" mediocre "praise and worship" style CCM music. It was unstoppable. It devastated CCM and drove many good stations off the air, and a lot of people like me off the air for resisting it. !5 years later, you had the "soccer mom" demographic that supports CCM. But - just maybe - that business model is crumbling, and soccer moms are a bit more fun than slow, boring praise and worship music. Streaming is breaking the monopoly hold of the praise and worship types in Nashville - who made money, while avoiding most of the anti-CCM tirades on web sites and from prominent preachers. The desire for more up-tempo, more fun music is beginning to gain momentum, and Air-1's assault on KSBJ's ratings in Houston is just one example. I guess people like me were right - but at the wrong time. I am glad that praise and worship stranglehold is breaking down. Praise and worship is not, and never was real CCM. It was always more fit for church services than broadcast. I haven't found a single song in the entire genre that is really a "radio cut". I never played any of it on the air, because it would just be bad radio. But what do you do when Grandma Pharisee writes checks to support it, Reverend Bigbottom preaches against Christian rock, an his church's contemporary service is full of praise and worship - and station management buys into the praise and worship garbage? If you are trying to program Christian rock, you are OUT - all the way OUT. Times are better now, hopefully.

Air-1 does not go far enough. Better music exists, it always has - just not receiving recognition it deserves. Houston's KSBJ and Orlando's WPOZ are two stations that are way ahead of the curve now, they are programming the real thing - real Christian rock, real Christian hip-hop on HD-2, etc. - and beginning to add over the air outlets for them. Maybe they are seeing the beginning of the end of the praise and worship movement and want to survive financially when Jesus finally cleans the money-changers out of the temple (so to speak). Maybe they just want to shut up critics of praise and worship. I don't know. But new, creative, and most importantly EFFECTIVE outlets like NGEN, The Rock, and Power 95.9 are gaining ground fast, and will assure the survival of KSBJ and WPOZ into the future. KLTY has no need to do something creative like KSBJ and WPOZ, because Dallas already has an excellent Christian rock station - KVRK. You can be if KVRK wasn't there, KLTY would be all over the new formats just like KSBJ and WPOZ.

Enjoy Air-1, Dallas! Word of mouth in Houston has been incredible - everybody is hearing about and trying the "new" station. The play list is still slanted way too much towards old, tired praise and worship with several real clunkers played per hour, but at least they have some of the Christian rock artists and play them without looking over their shoulders in fear of criticism from anti-Christian rock types. By the way, those fears are far from unfounded. I had some real bad experiences with those types when I was on WAPN in Florida. We had incidents, threats, and calls laced with profanity from them. We had to add security as a result. There are some people that REALLY hate Christian rock music and do not want it to be on the radio.

I still don't understand difference between praise and worship and CCM.

 

[xmusicmatt]

I still don't understand difference between praise and worship and CCM.

Music you hear on CCM stations is because it's what is TESTING well with the listeners.. It's what is keeping people listening and in most cases actually keeping the station on the air.. [Trust me, I became Christian because of Christian Rock but I know that its a tough sell because those who listen to the music don't have or don't cough over the $$ to support it] Sadly most on these forums don't understand that. Not saying there is not a place for other sects of Christian music (Gospel, Rock, Hip Hop) .. but stations like KSBJ, KTLY, WPOZ, KLove are being very successful at what their doing because it is bringing in the listeners.

Btw..I know this is is not the Houston board but you cant 100% say KSBJ's drop from Nov to Dec in the PPMS is due to Air1.. Look at #1 (The Clear Channel AC station there) jumped from 5.8 to 8.4.. My guess they hurt KSBJ way more than Air1 did.