Air Ameirca Is No More

[OhioMediaWatch]

Re: RE "Same goes for Stephanie Miller"

And one DAFFY gal.
She does what AirAmerica never consistently did: an entertaining SHOW.

Steph will probably have to spend half her show Friday explaining that she's not on Air America's roster and won't go away. But now, that'll be the last time she has to do this.

AAR had an entertaining show or two, but they mostly stumbled into any good radio. The network's base purpose seemed to be to influence elections, not entertain listeners.

 

[OhioMediaWatch]

Add Envision's Leslie Marshall to the list, Sean...she's on 7-10 PM weeknights.

I don't know what she has station-roster-wise...the only affiliate I can name is her former home market of Buffalo (WWKB/1520), but she could pick up some quick clearances out of this.'

Compass Media (Norman Goldman) is already actively looking for affiliates for his show. By "already", I mean they put out word via AllAccess this afternoon, within a couple of hours of the AAR announcement.

 

[DoubleC]

KABQ AM in Albuquerque Gets Good Sellable Numbers and I do Not believe that any of Their Mon-Fri Shows were Air America Products...........So This Shows that " Lib " talk can get ratings but so far that have NOT been able to sell it.

 

[OhioMediaWatch]

KKGN "Green 960" (SF Bay Area) programmer Jon Scott weighs in:

http://www.green960.com/pages/blog.html?feed=313154&article=6665457

Aside from a note which echoes many of my complaints about AAR's lack of attention to entertaining radio:

GOOD NEWS: Green 960 Online and Radio is NOT GOING ANYWHERE! We do not carry any AA programming during the day, we will offer Norman Goldman temporarily at midnight weekdays, replacing the (very) talented Jack Rice and Rachel Maddow, who sadly, is not offering a radio product (for now)

 

[jerry367]

Re: RE "Same goes for Stephanie Miller"

The hosts I appreciate most are the ones not tethered to party talking points. Yes, a host can be VERY opinionated and passionate without sounding like some party shill for the left or the right.

It's called "having an interesting personality".

Now people need to pigeonhole hosts into boring left or right molds.

 

[joshzz]

The real problem had nothing to do with any particular person .. The bottom line was the bottom line... Programs survive or fail due to sponsors or lack there of.

What big corporation is going to support talk programming that helps to expose the misdeeds of corrupt corporations like AIG, CITIBANK, Goldman Sachs, etc? Many of these multi-national corporations have ties to one another. You attack one -- it's like you're attacking them all.

Truth is, in my opinion, we're living in perilous times.. Air America could never survive in this climate where big business rules.

 

[raccoonradio]

3/31/05--Boston Globe article by Mark Jurkowitz had Jon Sinton of AAR predicting "in five years we'll be on 600 stations". Just under 5 yrs later...they are gone

 

[StinkyPete]

If there was ever an example of how not to execute talk radio, Air America was it. I really gave it a legit try. But when all you can do is bash the administration with no entertainment value, and interview people with no entertainment value, nobody is going to follow you. Right or left; you have to first entertain! That excites the listeners and grows the audience, bringing advertising and sponsorship along with those growing numbers. If nothing else, let this serve as an example for others...

 

[trojanrabbit]

Re: RE "Same goes for Stephanie Miller"

And one DAFFY gal.
She does what AirAmerica never consistently did: an entertaining SHOW.

Steph will probably have to spend half her show Friday explaining that she's not on Air America's roster and won't go away. But now, that'll be the last time she has to do this.

AAR had an entertaining show or two, but they mostly stumbled into any good radio. The network's base purpose seemed to be to influence elections, not entertain listeners.

Already getting tweets from her and her producer that she's not going anywhere.

 

[Indy Legend]

The real problem had nothing to do with any particular person .. The bottom line was the bottom line... Programs survive or fail due to sponsors or lack there of.

What big corporation is going to support talk programming that helps to expose the misdeeds of corrupt corporations like AIG, CITIBANK, Goldman Sachs, etc? Many of these multi-national corporations have ties to one another. You attack one -- it's like you're attacking them all.

Truth is, in my opinion, we're living in perilous times.. Air America could never survive in this climate where big business rules.

Perilous times indeed, josh. We need the balance of progressive voices now more than ever. After the high court ruling yesterday if you thought big business ruled before, trust me, you ain't seen nothin' yet.

 

[The Ultimate Warrior]

The real problem had nothing to do with any particular person .. The bottom line was the bottom line... Programs survive or fail due to sponsors or lack there of.

What big corporation is going to support talk programming that helps to expose the misdeeds of corrupt corporations like AIG, CITIBANK, Goldman Sachs, etc? Many of these multi-national corporations have ties to one another. You attack one -- it's like you're attacking them all.

Truth is, in my opinion, we're living in perilous times.. Air America could never survive in this climate where big business rules.

Quoted for truth.

 

[del_griffith]

The real problem had nothing to do with any particular person .. The bottom line was the bottom line... Programs survive or fail due to sponsors or lack there of.

What big corporation is going to support talk programming that helps to expose the misdeeds of corrupt corporations like AIG, CITIBANK, Goldman Sachs, etc? Many of these multi-national corporations have ties to one another. You attack one -- it's like you're attacking them all.

Truth is, in my opinion, we're living in perilous times.. Air America could never survive in this climate where big business rules.

I would have agreed with you 3 years ago. Conservative talkers were not using big corporations as punching bags. That's not the siutation now. Now conservative talkers aren't proposing the same solutions as liberal talkers or going after them with the same ferocity, but Beck especially and even to a point Hannity and Rush have poked the banks and especially the automakers.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm hearing Chuck Harder's soul using Becks' voice.

 

[ajc_trw]

Go watch Left of the Dial, this thing was doomed from day 1.

Bonus feature: Randi Rhodes' getting upset when Micheal Moore had no idea who she was.

I had to respond by saying I completely agree as I watched LotD a couple times. I loved the part of the film where it turns from a friendly documentary to what could be a segment from 60 minutes. This is where they have a meeting and the folks running AA suggest they "don't film this part". They do anyway in classic 60 minutes style. There were also a couple "clandestine filmed" scenes which made LotD not only a lesson in how AA started, but a clue as to why it ended.

P.S.: I've always wondered why liberal talk stations wouldn't have welcomed Al Franklin's show as he was a big name at the time. From what I recall AA insisted the stations run all of the programming or they could run none of it. Again, why AA failed IMHO.

 

[SeanMGilbow]

P.S.: I've always wondered why liberal talk stations wouldn't have welcomed Al Franklin's show as he was a big name at the time. From what I recall AA insisted the stations run all of the programming or they could run none of it. Again, why AA failed IMHO.

Not the case in Columbus or Akron when the format was in those cities. Stephanie Miller and Ed Schultz aired before and after Franken. The first Columbus station also carried Lionel, who was syndicated by WOR at the time. The Akron station didn't have any Air America program initially and aired Bill Press, Miller, Thom Hartmann (who wasn't with Air America then), Schultz and Lionel. Franken was added when a nearby station flipped to sports.

 

[OhioMediaWatch]

Not the case in Columbus or Akron when the format was in those cities. Stephanie Miller and Ed Schultz aired before and after Franken. The first Columbus station also carried Lionel, who was syndicated by WOR at the time. The Akron station didn't have any Air America program initially and aired Bill Press, Miller, Thom Hartmann (who wasn't with Air America then), Schultz and Lionel. Franken was added when a nearby station flipped to sports.

WARF/1350 picked up Al Franken and Randi Rhodes when crosstown lightbulb powered WJMP/1520 Kent blinked and dumped AAR for Fox Sports Radio, which ironically, is now once again on 1350.

1520 is now a second-tier-and-lower conservatalker now, chock full of TRN programming.

 

[SeanMGilbow]

Not the case in Columbus or Akron when the format was in those cities. Stephanie Miller and Ed Schultz aired before and after Franken. The first Columbus station also carried Lionel, who was syndicated by WOR at the time. The Akron station didn't have any Air America program initially and aired Bill Press, Miller, Thom Hartmann (who wasn't with Air America then), Schultz and Lionel. Franken was added when a nearby station flipped to sports.

WARF/1350 picked up Al Franken and Randi Rhodes when crosstown lightbulb powered WJMP/1520 Kent blinked and dumped AAR for Fox Sports Radio, which ironically, is now once again on 1350.

1520 is now a second-tier-and-lower conservatalker now, chock full of TRN programming.

Somehow I should have known you would go into specific details.

 

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[ropertex]

Conservative talkers have been promoted by deep pocket owners who don't mind losing billions for years as long as their message gets out. Look at Murdoch's Fox News which was run for years losing tons of money, and Rev. Moon's Washington Times, which the $3 billion loss over 30 years mattered little as long as it was the "favorite paper" of Reagan. Same with ABC, which took the rightward push only after ultra conservative (and CIA influenced) Cap Cities bought the network in 1985.

See "ABC and the rise of Rush Limbaugh"

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-libmedia.htm

 

[ropertex]

What big corporation is going to support talk programming that helps to expose the misdeeds of corrupt corporations like AIG, CITIBANK, Goldman Sachs, etc? Many of these multi-national corporations have ties to one another. You attack one -- it's like you're attacking them all
Truth is, in my opinion, we're living in perilous times.. Air America could never survive in this climate where big business rules.

The dream scenario for Big Media: no ownership rules so one company can own all the media in a town, and have one newsroom, one PD, one music source serve all outlets. Heaven for the conglomerate; hell for everyone else

Yet, somehow Air America was expected to survive after being blacklisted by such
advertisers as Bank of America, Exxon Mobil, Federal Express, General Electric, McDonald's, Microsoft, Wal-Mart, the NYSE and the U.S. Navy

The complete blackout list of about 100 companies here:

www.pastpeak.com/clips/airamerica.jpg

 

[OhioMediaWatch]

See "ABC and the rise of Rush Limbaugh"

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-libmedia.htm

This piece is riddled with errors in the part about Rush Limbaugh's start. For one, Ed McLaughlin started Rush's show AFTER he left ABC. Rush had been using ABC satellite time, but was never part of their network. McLaughlin got the unused time as part of his departure from ABC. Rush's biggest connection to ABC was/is his presence on WABC, WLS, WJR, etc...