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Al Jazeera Buying Current?

formeraa said:
Bongwater said:
Could it be all this hubbub over Al Jazeera taking over Current (much of it seeming to come from CNN) CNN's way of trying to discredit Al Jazeera America before it even gets a foothold in America? Somehow, CNN seems especially nervous about Al Jazeera moving in more than anyone else - ironically, more than even Fox News.

Just an observation.

Because apparently Fox News viewers think that Al Jazeera is a terrorist organization... :D

Ironic. You'd think Fox News would be screaming LOUDEST about it. But it's CNN falling apart over it......

I think it's just CNN. They once had a monopoly on cable TV news and I think they're pissed off they're getting ANOTHER competitor.....
 
Bongwater said:
formeraa said:
Bongwater said:
Could it be all this hubbub over Al Jazeera taking over Current (much of it seeming to come from CNN) CNN's way of trying to discredit Al Jazeera America before it even gets a foothold in America? Somehow, CNN seems especially nervous about Al Jazeera moving in more than anyone else - ironically, more than even Fox News.

Just an observation.

Because apparently Fox News viewers think that Al Jazeera is a terrorist organization... :D

Ironic. You'd think Fox News would be screaming LOUDEST about it. But it's CNN falling apart over it......

I think it's just CNN. They once had a monopoly on cable TV news and I think they're pissed off they're getting ANOTHER competitor.....

In that case, the arrival of BBC World News likely resulted in CNN needing new underwear.
 
Pat Cook said:
(Afterall, they do own CNN which tends to lean Conservative)
They do? Which CNN do you watch, because all I've ever heard is that they're liberal. Myabe not as liberal as, say, MSMBC, but they're certainly not Fox News.
 
vchimpanzee said:
Pat Cook said:
(Afterall, they do own CNN which tends to lean Conservative)
They do? Which CNN do you watch, because all I've ever heard is that they're liberal. Myabe not as liberal as, say, MSMBC, but they're certainly not Fox News.

CNN is right of center. Not as extreme right as Fox. But HARDLY liberal in any fashion.

Fox likes to recycle the MYTH of the so-called "liberal media". There's no such thing. The vast majority of all media is run by conservatives. Unlike Fox, Salem and other politically right wing media groups, their only allegiance is to money and money ONLY. Not the politics or "values". Just $$$.

NBC offers MSNBC purely as a BUSINESS move to counter Fox. Not as a statement of belief in ANYTHING at their core. And as long as it is making money, that's all they want from it. Again, it's about MONEY.
 
Fox likes to recycle the MYTH of the so-called "liberal media". There's no such thing.

Only ABC,CBS,NBC/MSNBC/Comcrap,NY Times,Gannett,Vilecom...etc
 
Bongwater said:
Could it be all this hubbub over Al Jazeera taking over Current (much of it seeming to come from CNN) CNN's way of trying to discredit Al Jazeera America before it even gets a foothold in America? Somehow, CNN seems especially nervous about Al Jazeera moving in more than anyone else - ironically, more than even Fox News.
That's because Fox News doesn't have an International service (At least not directly) whereas CNN does (CNN International)

Cheers & 73 ;D
 
mescutia said:
Bongwater said:
formeraa said:
Bongwater said:
Could it be all this hubbub over Al Jazeera taking over Current (much of it seeming to come from CNN) CNN's way of trying to discredit Al Jazeera America before it even gets a foothold in America? Somehow, CNN seems especially nervous about Al Jazeera moving in more than anyone else - ironically, more than even Fox News.

Just an observation.

Because apparently Fox News viewers think that Al Jazeera is a terrorist organization... :D

Ironic. You'd think Fox News would be screaming LOUDEST about it. But it's CNN falling apart over it......

I think it's just CNN. They once had a monopoly on cable TV news and I think they're pissed off they're getting ANOTHER competitor.....

In that case, the arrival of BBC World News likely resulted in CNN needing new underwear.
Why do you say that? BBC is from Britain. They're our staunchest allies. Getting a news competitor from "The Other Side" (As they say on BBC America) is a good thing

The network that stands to benefit the most by this however is MSNBC as they'll likely get most of the Current TV talent as either hosts and/or contributors (Except Bill & Stephanie in the AM & Joy Behar in the PM who will go their own way)

Cheers & 73 ;D
 
vchimpanzee said:
Pat Cook said:
(Afterall, they do own CNN which tends to lean Conservative)
because all I've ever heard is that they're liberal.
And whom have we heard THAT from? Fox News
Maybe not as liberal as, say, MSMBC, but they're certainly not Fox News.
Never said they were. All I said is CNN tends to LEAN Conservative (Note the emphasis above & the keyword of LEAN)

Cheers & 73 ;D
 
desertv said:
Fox likes to recycle the MYTH of the so-called "liberal media". There's no such thing.

Only ABC,CBS,NBC/MSNBC/Comcrap,NY Times,Gannett,Vilecom...etc
Basically ANYBODY who's not Fox News. That covers roughly 99% of all TV out there

Meanwhile, on the radio 99.9% of political talk radio is CONSERVATIVE !! On top of that, 99.9% of what isn't Conservative Talk Radio is Sports Talk. The remaining Teeny Tiny chunk of Talk Radio either has nothing whatsoever to do with Politics or is Progressive Talk

Cheers & 73 ;D
 
(Afterall, they do own CNN which tends to lean Conservative)[/quote]because all I've ever heard is that they're liberal.[/quote]And whom have we heard THAT from? Fox News
Maybe not as liberal as, say, MSMBC, but they're certainly not Fox News.
Never said they were. All I said is CNN tends to LEAN Conservative (Note the emphasis above & the keyword of LEAN)

Cheers & 73 ;D

In order to know what objective or unbiased is, you need to know where the center is. I'm afraid the legacy media*, including CNN, lost touch with this a long time ago. What they view as the center is skewed in one direction, and that direction is not to the right. Their reporters, anchors, writers, editors, etc. eat, sleep and socialize primarily in New York City, Washington, DC and Los Angeles, and they, like most other thoroughly unremarkable people, stay close to the herd, physically and ideologically. Of course, when confronted in public with this, most are quick to turn righteously indignant and dismiss their accusers of being pathetic wing nuts. Notice, though, how all Soviet things get whenever one of their ranks, such as Bernard Goldberg or John Stossel, split from the ideological herd - they disappear quickly, airbrushed out of photos and quickly forgotten. The penalty for "wrongthink" is banishment. Maybe operations such as MSNBC are, in a perverse way, refreshing - at least they don't try to hide their agenda under a thin, pretend veneer of objectivity.

*aka "drive-by" media
 
SixtiesGuy said:
(Afterall, they do own CNN which tends to lean Conservative)
because all I've ever heard is that they're liberal.[/quote]And whom have we heard THAT from? Fox News
Maybe not as liberal as, say, MSMBC, but they're certainly not Fox News.
Never said they were. All I said is CNN tends to LEAN Conservative (Note the emphasis above & the keyword of LEAN)

Cheers & 73 ;D

In order to know what objective or unbiased is, you need to know where the center is. I'm afraid the legacy media*, including CNN, lost touch with this a long time ago. What they view as the center is skewed in one direction, and that direction is not to the right. Their reporters, anchors, writers, editors, etc. eat, sleep and socialize primarily in New York City, Washington, DC and Los Angeles,[/quote]So you're saying political bias is judged by GEOGRAPHY now eh? Peachy ::)
and they, like most other thoroughly unremarkable people, stay close to the herd, physically and ideologically.
Only on Fox News & (Yes as much as I hate to admit it) MSNBC !! CNN OTOH tries to stick more with FACTS !!! Does that mean they always get it right? NO !!! They make their fair share of mistakes. CNN's bias just isn't as obvious as that of Fox News & MSNBC
Of course, when confronted in public with this, most are quick to turn righteously indignant and dismiss their accusers of being pathetic wing nuts.
Of course. Ever watched Fox News lately? They're LOADED with "Wing Nuts". Likewise MSNBC is equally loaded with those who like to call their Fox News counterparts "Nuts". That's because THEY ARE PAID to do that. The ones on Fox News are not only paid to call their MSNBC counterparts "Nuts", THEY ARE NUTTY THEMSELVES !!!
Notice, though, how all Soviet things get whenever one of their ranks, such as Bernard Goldberg or John Stossel, split from the ideological herd - they disappear quickly, airbrushed out of photos and quickly forgotten. The penalty for "wrongthink" is banishment. Maybe operations such as MSNBC are, in a perverse way, refreshing - at least they don't try to hide their agenda under a thin, pretend veneer of objectivity.
Those who spend an equal amount of time on the big Peacock network as they do on MSNBC aren't banished but their shows on MSNBC aren't exactly placed in primetime slots either

Getting back to the subject at hand, here's where I think the Current (No pun intended) herd will head to.....

Bill Press Back to pre-Current days
Stephanie Miller iHeartRadio (I don't see her doing the UStream thing again)
Cenk Uygur MSNBC Contributor & Fill-In/Weekend Host
Ana Kasparian MSNBC Contributor & Fill-In/Weekend Host
Eliot Spitzer MSNBC Contributor & Fill-In/Weekend Host (Unless he decides to run for public office again)
Jennifer Granholm MSNBC Contributor & Fill-In/Weekend Host
Jackie Schechner NBC/MSNBC anchor (She's the news gal on Current during the Stephanie Miller & most of the day)
Lisa Ferguson NBC/MSNBC anchor (She's the news gal on Current during the Bill Press show)

Of course The Young Turks will still do their thing but that will only be an online thing as it was before they appeared on Current

JMO.....

Cheers & 73 ;D
 
Noticed this in the past few days...in what may be a lead-up to the change, Al-Jazeera English is now listing both GMT and EST in program promos; they just listed GMT airtimes previously.
 
Bluenoser said:
Noticed this in the past few days...in what may be a lead-up to the change, Al-Jazeera English is now listing both GMT and EST in program promos; they just listed GMT airtimes previously.
If this is true, they will almost certainly be dropped from Mhz. WorldView & replaced with the English version of another Arab network

Thoughts?

Cheers & 73 ;D
 
It will almost certainly mutate in some form or another. That said, those who want it will keep it, and those who do not want it will find out what channels are included in their cable packages and not pay for channels they don't want...put another way, those who don't watch much tele anyway will downgrade if they don't like it, and it is there.
 
Pat Cook said:
If this is true, they will almost certainly be dropped from Mhz. WorldView & replaced with the English version of another Arab network

I don't see why AJ English will drop from Worldview. It's not like it runs 24/7 on Worldview, they just air one or several of their encapsulated broadcasts a few times per day along with RT, BBC, France24, NHK etc. With some cable companies balking on airing AJ at all it would serve AJ and Worldview well to keep it on in the off chance that the tin foil wearing xenophobes happen to tune and see it's not really airing the walking orders from the Taliban and Hamas as the likes of TWC would want you to believe.

In other words it's not hurting anything or anyone to have AJ remain on Worldview even if with this Current buy-out their U.S. household penetration has become much larger.
 
So you're saying political bias is judged by GEOGRAPHY now eh? Peachy ::)
Excuse me, but did you happen to notice where the "blue states" were in last November's election?
Only on Fox News & (Yes as much as I hate to admit it) MSNBC !! CNN OTOH tries to stick more with FACTS !!! Does that mean they always get it right? NO !!! They make their fair share of mistakes. CNN's bias just isn't as obvious as that of Fox News & MSNBC
Yes, they do try to hide their bias - but it is there.
Of course. Ever watched Fox News lately? They're LOADED with "Wing Nuts". Likewise MSNBC is equally loaded with those who like to call their Fox News counterparts "Nuts". That's because THEY ARE PAID to do that. The ones on Fox News are not only paid to call their MSNBC counterparts "Nuts", THEY ARE NUTTY THEMSELVES !!!
Hmmm - so people who espouse a liberal point of view on MSNBC are really entertainers who are paid to do so, while persons on FOX who espouse a conservative point of view are deranged and unstable? That conclusion in and of itself is characteristic of the bias that pervades the legacy media: 'anyone who doesn't agree with our (liberal) point of view must of course be a crackpot.'
Those who spend an equal amount of time on the big Peacock network as they do on MSNBC aren't banished but their shows on MSNBC aren't exactly placed in primetime slots either
Not sure what you mean by this - I was referring to legacy media people who are banished soon after going off the reservation. I doubt that anyone has ever been moved from a prime NBC News gig to an obscure MSNBC assignment because he/she was outed as a conservative.
 
Pat Cook said:
vchimpanzee said:
Pat Cook said:
(Afterall, they do own CNN which tends to lean Conservative)
because all I've ever heard is that they're liberal.
And whom have we heard THAT from? Fox News
Maybe not as liberal as, say, MSMBC, but they're certainly not Fox News.
Never said they were. All I said is CNN tends to LEAN Conservative (Note the emphasis above & the keyword of LEAN)

Cheers & 73 ;D
I thought they leaned liberal. Like me.

I should have thought to make a note of this, but in a newspaper I looked at when I was at the library, one columnist attacked Al-Jazeera saying it was owned by extremist Muslims who wanted to promote their agenda, and it was a dangerous thing to have any news outlet in the hands of such people.

Everything I had read about Al-Jazeera was here, and it was positive.
 
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