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TheBigA said:You misunderstand my point. I didn't say that AM Radio was becoming obsolete. I said that opening a new FM band would make all current radios without those new channels obsolete. But that having new channels would not be enough of a motivation to get the public to replace their obsolete FM radios.
We have the same thing with HD radio, and the FCC is completely gung-ho about that. We had the same thing with the expanded AM band and there are now lots of radios around for that. A new FM band (perhaps with all-digital allocations) would have a much better chance of catching on than HD does because it actually would work without interference. I agree that it'll never happen, but I can't see that the result would be so bad.
Dave B.
DaveBayArea said:We have the same thing with HD radio, and the FCC is completely gung-ho about that.
Unless the FCC is going to manufacture and give out free radios to everyone, it won't matter. People don't want to buy new radios to get more stations. It simply isn't that important.
Just import from Japan 76-108 Mhz
MarioMania said:Just import from Japan 76-108 Mhz
But who's going to buy them, other than as a component of something else (car, stereo system, MP3 player)? How many actual "radios" are sold today, compared with 20 years ago or so? If the numbers of units are dwindling, why would a manufacturer bother making expanded-band FM radios? I doubt I'd have a need to buy one.
Other than in my car, I rarely have a radio turned on at all. 90% of my "radio" listening is online - local sports and the Sunday night blues show are the only exceptions. The stations I listen to online may operate AM or FM transmitters somewhere in the world, but not where I can hear them.
That's the Problem ..People are listing to online for News, Talk & Sports
Radio is dying slowing
Radio is dying slowing
MarioMania said:That's the Problem ..People are listing to online for News, Talk & Sports
Radio is dying slowing
Not necessarily. Most of the stations I listen to are still on AM or FM in their local areas - just not in my local area (Phoenix). Those stations are WSCR Chicago (AM) for sports, WBBM Chicago, KYW Philly, KNX LA, and KCBS SF (all AM or AM/FM) for news, WFIU Bloomington IN (FM) for classical music, and WBGO Newark NJ (FM) for Jazz. There is no Chicago-sports, all-news or full-time Jazz station in Phoenix, so I have to listen online for those formats.
The only online-only stations I listen to regularly are Doo Wop Cafe for oldies, and ESPN Radio because of the tape-delays and pre-emptions on local KTAR. Everything I listen to is available nationwide to everybody (internet connections willing, of course).
The days of local content are not over (if done right), but the days of strictly local broadcasting are. KYW, WSCR, etc. "get out better" online than they ever did as a 50,000 watt blowtorches. They will still make serving their own markets their priority, of course, but if the rest of the world is also listening, so what? Who gets hurt by it, other than stations that don't run their own operations right and/or don't stream?
MarioMania said:That's the Problem ..People are listing to online for News, Talk & Sports
Radio is dying slowing
Not in their cars. OTA radio is still far more mobile than the internet.
TheBigA said:MarioMania said:That's the Problem ..People are listing to online for News, Talk & Sports
Radio is dying slowing
Not in their cars. OTA radio is still far more mobile than the internet.
It's certainly more convenient. My smartphone is just as mobile as my car radio, but once I set a station or my own music to play, that's exactly where it stays until I stop the car. Don't mess with the phone while driving! Even when not driving, changing stations on TuneIn or iHeartRadio is still a bit of a pain.
Cellular services still don't begin to approach the solidity of a even a copper pair.
Until the phone companies can provide a simple phone service that does not either drop calls or garbles badly,
I will certainly not consider PAYING for such service for "entertainment".
This morning I called my wife ( on the cell), and when she answered she said "vichyssoise"?
I then asked "Is this ..." and it was my wife, but she hadn't said "vichyssoise"...she thought it was hilarious though.
I wish someday my area would be served by enough strong signals to make IP wireless streaming work, but I'm not
holding my breath.
How old are fiberoptics, and yet no corporation will bother to serve my very dense neighborhood?
Until the phone companies can provide a simple phone service that does not either drop calls or garbles badly,
I will certainly not consider PAYING for such service for "entertainment".
This morning I called my wife ( on the cell), and when she answered she said "vichyssoise"?
I then asked "Is this ..." and it was my wife, but she hadn't said "vichyssoise"...she thought it was hilarious though.
I wish someday my area would be served by enough strong signals to make IP wireless streaming work, but I'm not
holding my breath.
How old are fiberoptics, and yet no corporation will bother to serve my very dense neighborhood?
AM radio is still very viable for listening to sports....both ballgames and sports talk. You don't need hi-fidelity for sports. FM radio (as evidenced by 95.7) can have a lot of annoying static when driving around the Bay Area. KNBR doesn't have this problem. DXing for sports while in the car also still has value. Since Major League Baseball only allows radio broadcasts on the internet to those willing to pay an annual fee, people who don't want to pay still need to DXing to pull in games from LA, San Diego, Seattle, Colorado etc. while driving at night.
KCPR_Sound of SLO said:AM radio is still very viable for listening to sports....both ballgames and sports talk. You don't need hi-fidelity for sports. FM radio (as evidenced by 95.7) can have a lot of annoying static when driving around the Bay Area. KNBR doesn't have this problem.
Neither do WFAN NY or WSCR Chicago. But many other AMs around the country do, especially if they're not running 50,000 watts fulltime. If a station doesn't cover its entire market, especially the areas where the money is, it's got a problem.
DXing for sports while in the car also still has value. Since Major League Baseball only allows radio broadcasts on the internet to those willing to pay an annual fee, people who don't want to pay still need to DXing to pull in games from LA, San Diego, Seattle, Colorado etc. while driving at night.
That's not an excuse. The fee ($15 for the season) is trivial. The NFL's fee, at $30, is only a bit less trivial. The NBA and NHL (if they were actually playing) are free. If one can afford $80-150 a month for a smartphone data/voice plan, they can afford $15 for an entire season of baseball - every team's broadcast, home and away, and no blackouts.
Yep, similar situation with WFAN and WSCR as with KNBR....those are the only type of AM stations that are surviving in big markets...50,000 watt flame throwers, but they are still viable.
When I listen to the 49ers, I go on AM
1077 the Bone to much Static where I am, I'm in Vallejo
1077 the Bone to much Static where I am, I'm in Vallejo
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