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AMP's line up?

Robnoxious said:
Jed The Fish on KROQ is eligible for AARP benefits, half price tickets at movie matinees and the Early Bird Special at Denny's but can still amp the kids up with their favorite alt rock bands every afternoon. Come to think of it, Jed played my favorite alt rock bands back when I was a precocious teenager.

Rick Dees' air of infallibility was what did him in ultimately. Well after the Ricker's ego came back down to Earthbound status he had missed a great opportunity to be on K-Earth and likely still as revered as he was during his days at KIIS.
Once again, the format is CHR that I've posted about. KROQ isn't CHR.

Stryker from KROQ is on AMP right now. I'm not impressed. He's walking all over the vocals.
 
4UH8SIMBKAGN said:
Once again, the format is CHR that I've posted about. KROQ isn't CHR.
It was at one time ;D and Jed might have still been there during it.

There, now the topic has gone full circle and back on point.
 
Robnoxious said:
4UH8SIMBKAGN said:
Once again, the format is CHR that I've posted about. KROQ isn't CHR.
It was at one time ;D and Jed might have still been there during it.

There, now the topic has gone full circle and back on point.
And Scott Mason, too.
 
I'm getting a bit disappointed by the names coming up for Amp. McCabe (per All Access) is going to be full time. Why? What CHR experience does he have? How does he fit the ethnic make-up of Los Angeles? http://www.myspace.com/caseykroq
 
4UH8SIMBKAGN said:
If you are in your 40's and still working CHR, you better start looking for a new gig or you will have no paycheck. I think you need to go back and watch some old WKRP episodes to get a reality check of something that's been going for many years.

The reality of it is that you can’t be fired in California for age. They will always call it something else. Usually something like ratings drop, performance issues or the old stand by, give someone a task they can’t possibly complete and give ‘em the boot. Again, we all have our own expiration date. My main concern was to stay employed. Personally I’ve done Top 40, AOR-Classic Rock, Oldies, AC, Hot AC and News to name a few and I never worried about staying in a format beyond my prime for it, if there even was such a thing. But you certainly have your opinions and are welcome to them.
 
Well Stryker at least did Hot AC when he was at Star 98.7 as Tommy Sanders, so its not that far off from CHR. I dont know about McCabe, never heard him. But if your talented, you can do any format. Time will tell.
 
Big E said:
Well Stryker at least did Hot AC when he was at Star 98.7 as Tommy Sanders, so its not that far off from CHR. I dont know about McCabe, never heard him. But if your talented, you can do any format. Time will tell.
I heard Stryker yesterday. He was awful. Walking over vocals or speeding up so he didn't. Terrible choice. And no, if you are talented you can't do any format.
 
calguy said:
4UH8SIMBKAGN said:
And no, if you are talented you can't do any format.
You're wrong, you can do any format if you're talented. Your thinking is very narrow.
No, you are wrong. I know many highly talented veteran jocks who could not transition to other formats especially talk.
 
This is Los Angeles and AMP is going after KIIS, the number one billing station in the United States. You're going to throw on jocks who have no CHR experience and go up against them? Give me a break. Both of these are DUMB decisions and could cost CBS dearly. And just how is AMP going to appeal to Hispanics with someone as milktoast as McCabe? Stupid, stupid, stupid.

At least in New York Now is hiring CHR vets.

This is nepotism at work for both stations.
 
The K-Rock staff does seem pretty adaptable to any format. Such was the case with Carson Daily. Hell, Kevin Weatherly himself came to program the country's premiere Modern Rock station after stints at CHR (most famously 104.7 KZZP Phoenix).
 
4UH8SIMBKAGN said:
calguy said:
4UH8SIMBKAGN said:
And no, if you are talented you can't do any format.
You're wrong, you can do any format if you're talented. Your thinking is very narrow.
No, you are wrong. I know many highly talented veteran jocks who could not transition to other formats especially talk.

I know many highly talented veteran jocks who did not transition to other formats as well, and many who did. You seem to think in generalities. Everyone is different. I’ve known jocks who really were one format deejays and many more who could do just about any format you could think of.
 
CBS does things like this from time to time. Case in point: Jim Thornton went from traffic reporter to pm drive news anchor at KNX.
 
radio124 said:
CBS does things like this from time to time. Case in point: Jim Thornton went from traffic reporter to pm drive news anchor at KNX.
Jim Thornton does have a distinctive career (at KNX). One, he was the last traffic reporter on their air to work with the infamous Bill Keene. Plus he has quite a voiceover career.

I got a chance to listen to Chunky on Now tonight. There's only once word for him -----> terrible. I can't believe something like that is on the air in New York City.

There are so many more choices that AMP could have made that are working in this market. Many with either vast CHR backgounds or in my view, one's to watch. Talent that understands the format, the market, in some cases is the face of the largest ethnic group in this market and how to beat KIIS.
 
You guys amuse me. A whole bunch of wannabe's and has been's going in and slagging off people who actually work in the industry. Just remember you don't really know who reads these boards. I find it quite entertaining to read poeples opinion on station talent, continually saying how bad someone is, or whatever. If any of you ever meet some of the people you constatly attack, I would like some of you to say the same things to these people in person, that you so gutlessly say on here. My money is you would be too gutless to say anything.

As to the question of people and formats. If you are a genuine professional, and you are hungry enough, you will grow in any format that you choose. If you want to specialize, thats great, but a true pro can rise to any challenge put before them.
 
Lee Anderson said:
You guys amuse me. A whole bunch of wannabe's and has been's going in and slagging off people who actually work in the industry. Just remember you don't really know who reads these boards. I find it quite entertaining to read poeples opinion on station talent, continually saying how bad someone is, or whatever. If any of you ever meet some of the people you constatly attack, I would like some of you to say the same things to these people in person, that you so gutlessly say on here. My money is you would be too gutless to say anything.

As to the question of people and formats. If you are a genuine professional, and you are hungry enough, you will grow in any format that you choose. If you want to specialize, thats great, but a true pro can rise to any challenge put before them.

Exactly!
 
calguy said:
Lee Anderson said:
You guys amuse me. A whole bunch of wannabe's and has been's going in and slagging off people who actually work in the industry. Just remember you don't really know who reads these boards. I find it quite entertaining to read poeples opinion on station talent, continually saying how bad someone is, or whatever. If any of you ever meet some of the people you constatly attack, I would like some of you to say the same things to these people in person, that you so gutlessly say on here. My money is you would be too gutless to say anything.

As to the question of people and formats. If you are a genuine professional, and you are hungry enough, you will grow in any format that you choose. If you want to specialize, thats great, but a true pro can rise to any challenge put before them.

Exactly!
There are quite a few on this board who have been or who are in management or at least who have many years of radio business experience. Many on this board know more times than not what is going to work especially in Los Angeles. Few of us would have created stations like Movin, The Sound, KDAY/The Beat, Radio One's final format for The Beat...and many other stations prior that we've discussed on this board. Those stations alone show that there is management and so-called talent that at best is short-sighted and at worst, just plain unqualified to be in this market (I'm being kind..which isn't my norm). If everyone can "rise to the occasion" then everyone would have a 100 share. Sorry, but you are both 100% completely wrong. That does make both of you 100% qualified to be in Los Angeles radio management, though... As for AMP, I'm quite disappointed. They've made some bad choices if they plan on going up against the top biller in the market. They'll probably go with an all music or more music morning show as well...same mistake CBS made with KKHR. It all repeats itself, just like Bush repeated Hoover's mistakes and Obama is repeating Roosevelt's mistakes.
 
4UH8SIMBKAGN said:
calguy said:
Lee Anderson said:
You guys amuse me. A whole bunch of wannabe's and has been's going in and slagging off people who actually work in the industry. Just remember you don't really know who reads these boards. I find it quite entertaining to read poeples opinion on station talent, continually saying how bad someone is, or whatever. If any of you ever meet some of the people you constatly attack, I would like some of you to say the same things to these people in person, that you so gutlessly say on here. My money is you would be too gutless to say anything.

As to the question of people and formats. If you are a genuine professional, and you are hungry enough, you will grow in any format that you choose. If you want to specialize, thats great, but a true pro can rise to any challenge put before them.

Exactly!
There are quite a few on this board who have been or who are in management or at least who have many years of radio business experience. Many on this board know more times than not what is going to work especially in Los Angeles. Few of us would have created stations like Movin, The Sound, KDAY/The Beat, Radio One's final format for The Beat...and many other stations prior that we've discussed on this board. Those stations alone show that there is management and so-called talent that at best is short-sighted and at worst, just plain unqualified to be in this market (I'm being kind..which isn't my norm). If everyone can "rise to the occasion" then everyone would have a 100 share. Sorry, but you are both 100% completely wrong. That does make both of you 100% qualified to be in Los Angeles radio management, though... As for AMP, I'm quite disappointed. They've made some bad choices if they plan on going up against the top biller in the market. They'll probably go with an all music or more music morning show as well...same mistake CBS made with KKHR. It all repeats itself, just like Bush repeated Hoover's mistakes and Obama is repeating Roosevelt's mistakes.

To start with, I’ll leave the Presidential analogies alone, we don’t want to travel too far off topic.

As for radio, you make some valid points, but just saying “you’re both wrong” because we don’t agree with you is, well… wrong. While I can agree that management in this town and many others is sadly lacking in smarts, it has nothing to do with the fact that there are talented people who are versatile enough to be a success with more than one format. Myself, I’m not in management, but thanks for the insult anyway, guess it made you feel better. I’ve worked in programming for the bulk of my career. I’ve had successes in multiple formats, so I speak from experience. My disagreement with you is about your statements regarding that subject. I didn’t say that everyone can rise to the occasion. Again, you speak in generalities and make these blanket statements. I believe that there are a great many individuals that can rise to the occasion and I’ve seen many that have done exactly that. So I don’t agree with you, and you don’t agree with me, that’s okay, it’s a free country, so to speak.

To get back on topic, AMP may be making many mistakes with their staff, but it’s not always fair to judge someone on their first week, so I’ll give them some time to see how they do. I will admit that these first staffing decisions are a bit odd. Will they work? Maybe, maybe not. Can they beat KIIS? Probably not, but stranger things have happened and this is 2009, not 1984, so the playing field could yield some surprises. After all, did anyone expect KYSR to make inroads on KROQ? No, but they’ve had some gains, so it’s always a possibility.
 
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