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ANOTHER EMBARGO

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Feralcat

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Are Providence numbers ever not gonna be embargoed? Supposedly CC wasn't buying the book then someone posted that wasn't true. What's the deal? Agencies have them. Right? So it's just the local sales crews that have to sell without them if their station doesn't buy the book. And aren't they being visited by sales people from stations that do buy it, so in a way they get pitched some numbers anyway.
 
Somebody in the market isn't buying the book...I don't believe it is Citadel, not sure on CC; but maybe Entercom, Hall or one of the Mom & Pops (the spanish stations?) aren't buying it, so the embargo will continue. If the agency is large enough, they may get it (Large regional like RDW probably gets it); but sales people would only show what they can do for somebody, not what someone else could....if they are smart
 
wc3434 said:
It's Clear Channel. No money.
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That's an oxymoron....the words Clear Channel and no money don't belong in the same sentence! It's like saying The Yankees or Red Sox don't do any scouting because they have no money.....WRONG!

Clearly CC doesn't want to see each book how bad HJY, HJJ and SNE are doing and their lonely bright spot (based off of the old info that is avail on line) is The B (if it in case is Clear Channel)
 
4 months ago C.C. fired 15 people. They simply can't spend the money. And 92, you work for Citadel, right?
What you just wrote makes me think you are using a great deal of Medical Pot.
How do you know what Jim Corwin needs to do? Or what he can do? Walter.
 
wknd92 said:
Somebody in the market isn't buying the book...I don't believe it is Citadel, not sure on CC; but maybe Entercom, Hall or one of the Mom & Pops (the spanish stations?) aren't buying it, so the embargo will continue.
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Both Citadel and ClearChannel have the Winter book. I'm guessing Entercom and Hall probably do too (but don't quote me on the last two, because I don't have concrete evidence.) Wknd is right, it's probably one of the Mom and Pop operations, and it will be embargoed until all rated stations subscribe to the book - no sense in giving anyone a free meal.. Basically, Arbitron is saying, you want the data, pay for it.

But trust me, the big two clusters in Providence have the "books" (they're actually delivered electronically now), and they've had them for a few days now.
 
I asked a certain man at Oxford st. today. He said 'we' don't have them.
Just to let you know.
 
alfieradioguy said:
I asked a certain man at Oxford st. today. He said 'we' don't have them.
Just to let you know.
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The numbers usually aren't shared with the janitor... ;)
 
wc3434 said:
4 months ago C.C. fired 15 people. They simply can't spend the money. And 92, you work for Citadel, right?
What you just wrote makes me think you are using a great deal of Medical Pot.
How do you know what Jim Corwin needs to do? Or what he can do? Walter.
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Walter,
I've addressed this a number of times ad nauseum, will try once more....
No, I don't work at Citadel; but used to work 8 years at the Wampanoag building under former regimes, still have a number of friends in that building along with others in RI, Boston and NYC from working there....hell the MD at PLJ was in my wedding.
Just because CC fired 15 people 4 months ago in no way means they don't have money, with the just announced shedding of 362 stations (which I also mentioned about a month and 1/2 ago that CC was ripe for jettisoning stations and got shot down), all they could be doing is making a nice bottom line attractive for a potential buyer, especially as they are a publicly traded company and looking to go private again. (Metlife did the same thing when they went public about 10 years ago, ran on shoestring just before their IPO to make the bottom line look good....that $14 stock is now in the range of $66)

My comments about the former ratings are based off of the numbers that are still out there from the last book avail which I think was the spring 2006....CTK was #1 7.5, Lite #2 7.3, B101 #3 6.9, Pro FM #4 6.6, HJY #5 5.4, WEEI #6 5.0, SNE & Pro AM tied #7 4.3, Hot 106 #9 3.4, BRU #10 3.3....HJJ got a 2.3 and got beat by out of market JMN and almost PLM....that's the point I was making. Seeing as the numbers aren't out there, it is all speculation; but to say that I'm on MJ because of my statement....
 
And besides if Clear Channel didn't buy the book how would they know whose contracts not to renew next time around?
 
aqualung said:
And besides if Clear Channel didn't buy the book how would they know whose contracts not to renew next time around?
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aqualung...I like you more and more with each posting....OUCH!
 
wknd92 said:
aqualung said:
And besides if Clear Channel didn't buy the book how would they know whose contracts not to renew next time around?
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aqualung...I like you more and more with each posting....OUCH!
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Get to know me better and you'll hate me like the rest of the world. Just come back from the Citadel reunion with gossip.
 
aqualung said:
wknd92 said:
aqualung said:
And besides if Clear Channel didn't buy the book how would they know whose contracts not to renew next time around?
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aqualung...I like you more and more with each posting....OUCH!
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Get to know me better and you'll hate me like the rest of the world. Just come back from the Citadel reunion with gossip.
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No can do...what happens at the dinner table, stays at the dinner table....If I divulge, won't be asked back.
 
I , We were wrong about an Embargo.

Saw some of the ratings an hour ago. Wpro AM has the highest ratings in ten years!
Dan had his highest ever.
The numbers on Hannity are AWFUl.

The limited numbers on Depetro were much higher than Barber.
Salute! to WPRO.

HJJ , BETTER GET 'LOCAL' Walter.
 
I'm meeting wknd92 & the kids at the circus today. I hear Bello Nock has access to the numbers. We're going to rough him up in some alley off Westminster Street until he talks.
 
Walter,
please elaborate on how we have been wrong on the Embargo because I have always been told that there is an embargo if there is a station in the market who does not purchase the arbitron ratings information, so as not to have it freely available for them by other services....

If I have been misinformed in the past, I'd like to know
 
primativeradiogod said:
alfieradioguy said:
I asked a certain man at Oxford st. today. He said 'we' don't have them.
Just to let you know.
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The numbers usually aren't shared with the janitor... ;)
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WOW ! Go easy on the Mop Technician .
 
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