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Another loss for minorities in Boston

WLYNgm said:
Maybe if you knock that king-sized chip off your shoulder long enough to DO something...The world does not owe you... Lots of groups have had it FAR worse. If you don't think so, then you have a very limited knowledge of human history...

You still didn't answer the question. And for someone who's a GM of a multicultural radio station you sure are presumptuous about other ethnic groups. The Caribbean Community is doing something, they are being entrepreneurial about the situation. It's not ideal but their pirate radio stations are a reaction to the lack of representation on the radio dial, and after reading your posts I don't blame them for skipping your station. As for the African American and Latino communities, both have an already existing audience here and have had major full time stations on the dial. Your points are moot: the black community doesn't need to beg for a 1/2 hour gig on your station to prove they have an audience in this town. And you'd never even suggest that to white listeners of other dismally performing formats (i.e WFNX).
 
WLYNgm said:
You still didn't answer the question. And for someone who's a GM of a multicultural radio station you sure are presumptuous about other ethnic groups. The Caribbean Community is doing something, they are being entrepreneurial about the situation. It's not ideal but their pirate radio stations are a reaction to the lack of representation on the radio dial, and after reading your posts I don't blame them for skipping your station. As for the African American and Latino communities, both have an already existing audience here and have had major full time stations on the dial. Your points are moot: the black community doesn't need to beg for a 1/2 hour gig on your station to prove they have an audience in this town. And you'd never even suggest that to white listeners of other dismally performing formats (i.e WFNX).
So breaking the law is OK if it fits your agenda?

Pirate radio is illegal. I don't have an agenda on this. The fact is that they're illegal. Any pirate. Any format. There's absolutely nothing justifiable about them.

I understand what you're trying to illustrate. But, pirate radio is a bad example of an ethnic group doing something positive to attempt to balance any perceived inequity. The message is sound. The logic is flawed.

And once again, you seem to fail to accept the fact that Radio One CHOSE to sell WILD to Entercom. Nobody forced their hands. Nobody said "Hey, abandon the audience your station was serving, and doing so better than some other stations in the market."

It was a choice to sell. They made it, and quite frankly, the audience had nothing to do with it. Nor, did ratings. It was a financial decision. And by all accounts from a business standpoint, a good one.

I reiterate. If there's a market that's not being served, and it is a good financial move for a radio company to sign on/flip their signal to serve that market, it WILL happen. A market study will be done, and depending on the data mined, the decision will be made. Gripe all you want. But, that's it. End of story. Nobody screwed any minority. One business sold out to another.

Sorry it doesn't cater to your agenda. But, life sucks sometimes. You have every choice to try to put together a group of investors and change the game. And before you pull the "what white owner blah blah?"...The "black owners" sold out. By choice. And seeing as you appear to have no interest in not considering skin pigment, instead of looking at it as the loss of a minority-targeted radio station, it could be looked upon as a minority-owned company enjoying a financial windfall as a result of its hard work.

Too many times people need to gripe and see the glass as half-empty. Because only unrest seems to give them a voice. Peace doesn't sell.
 
Dorothy, you're not in Kanasas anymore. Sheesh, can't this guy let go of WAAF? I'll send Ed Perry another ten spot to take both Neanderpaul and Lucy Lu to lunch... anything to get them to give it a rest!

WILD was one of my favorite stations. Now we're stuck with Mistress Carrie. I guess if you have to count your blessings, we can Thank God that they pink slipped Neanderpaul before WAAF actually got a Boston signal.
 
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This is criticism, not a personal attack. You don't know the difference because you're only reason to be on this board is to be a cheeeeerleader for WRKO. Isn't that like being publicist for Osama Bin Laden or Satan?
We can see why you are so angry.

WILD rules. Bad radio creates a vacuum and fills it with...The Track Gals and Greg whats-his-name...yikes.

We have every right to complain. And to Thank God when awful on-air "personalities" move to Kansas.


[EDIT=ad hominem attack]
 
There was a post from Interncomm which mysteriously vanished. Here was my reply:

Ha Ha, you can't take it when people give CRITICISM of Entercom and the awful on air personalities they push on people. If they gave us some talent - like WILD did - there would be reason to feel regret over a radio station and its GREAT on-air talent not being part of our radio routine. Neanderpaul added nothing to this city's airwaves, and if he didn't do so much pr on this very site, none of us would know who he is. That's the truth and you can't handle it. NeanderWho if he didn't pop up and look for attention every ten minutes.
 
Varulven said:
There was a post from Interncomm which mysteriously vanished. Here was my reply:

Ha Ha, you can't take it when people give CRITICISM of Entercom and the awful on air personalities they push on people. If they gave us some talent - like WILD did - there would be reason to feel regret over a radio station and its GREAT on-air talent not being part of our radio routine. Neanderpaul added nothing to this city's airwaves, and if he didn't do so much pr on this very site, none of us would know who he is. That's the truth and you can't handle it. NeanderWho if he didn't pop up and look for attention every ten minutes.

Hello pot?...this is the kettle. You're black.

Yes, I spend time here talking about Boston radio Joe. It is my home, and one of the only radio markets in America that actually has passion regarding its programming. I don't apologize.

And although I am not this guy...I'll also take this moment to toot both my, and Mistress Carrie's horns. She and I were both nominated for Music Director of the year by Radio & Records magazine Joe. Neither one of us expects to win. But, it's nice to be recognized by the industry as two of the best in the business. See, we are IN the business as opposed to writing about people in the business. And yes, I remain a fan of WAAF. Always have been. I have been fortunate to work there twice in my career. I am also a fan of Entercom. The company has put food on my table and a roof over my head for almost 6 years, minus a 3 month stay with CBS Radio which was also enjoyable.

So, when I step up and see the positive from both sides of this business transaction, part of it is cheering for WAAF yes. I know if I were still in that building, I'd be feeling positive about what just went down. Entercom followed through on years of commitment to fixing that signal. That's a positive thing in our industry Joe.

And trying to get back ON TOPIC...Radio One, a minority-owned company just completed a lucrative transaction for one of its properties. Some people would like to make it a negative because they believe people grouped by skin pigment have been wronged by this deal. I'm pointing out that there is no agenda at all in this sale other than to make money. That's it.

You have once again attempted to hijack the thread by making it about a criticism of me. Joe, I've been out of the market now for almost ten months, and you continue to take shots. I respectfully ask that you knock it off. If I wasn't a factor, stop bringing me up. [EDIT]

I'm done responding to you in any way Joe. Continued personal attacks will simply be forwarded to the moderators. Have a nice life.


[EDIT=ad hominem attack]
 
I am hearing the sound of WHDH going off the air as I read this thread....

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We have not discussed in any detail how the non com FM's are serving the rappin american community.
It seems to me there is a fair amount of rap/hip hop on Northeastern's 104.9 station.

There are all sorts of places to get music, If it isn't on Commercial radio, there are the non coms, leased time, XM, Sirius. If you are home there is even streaming audio. Just because it isn't on radio doesn't mean it doesn't exist. THe music is still there. (ask a polka fan)

The reality of the situation is WILD was not making a R.O.I. worth the effort.
They had an opportunity to walk away with 20 mill that can be used to buy or upgrade in markets that will make them a better return on thier investment

Entercom just droped 30 mill... that's big money I wonder if they would do rap/hip hop on the HD side?


"those that can DO... those that can't sit on the sidelines and whine"


[EDIT=promotion of violence]
 
Neggy said:
I am hearing the sound of WHDH going off the air as I read this thread....

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[EDIT=promotion of violence]

Dave Parker!...Willie Stargell...those dumbassed pillbox hats! Down with all of them!

What about WERS? Didn't they have tons of Hip Hop in their block programming too? Don't they have a full city-grade signal?

The programming's there. The audience is being served. (and not it the OH SNAP!..YOU GOT SERVED! way) The questions is; Can a company make enough money playing a certain type of music to justify flipping/signing on a signal with that format?

If so...they'll be another WILD-type station soon. If not? WERS used to have good Hip Hop.
 
Neggy said:
I am hearing the sound of WHDH going off the air as I read this thread....

I was there that night and watched the board-op fire the sound of a flushing toilet!

Legendary way to make your mark. Of course it ended his career. But, it was something.
 
pirate stations are illegal. period

Pirate stations are ILLEGAL. A federal offense. All of the time. Not open for debate. CASE CLOSED.

As to a particular community buying brokered airtime: I cannot speak for other stations, but I can speak for WLYN/WAZN as FACT. Nobody has ever been denied airtime here because of program content. Has never happened, and never will happen. Actually, our parent company, MRBI, is a private, Chinese, family-owned company. The languages on the air vary from market to market. For example - Houston is mostly Vietnamese and other Southeast Asian languges. That is the community that they serve.

Brokered time is, in fact, the most democratic way for ANYONE to get on the air. To a listener, there is no difference between stations. If they can hear a signal at their given location, they can listen to the program being offered - whatever the content. If the intended audience (including sponsors) will not support one program, they absolutely will not support an entire station. The larger the station, the more costs involved. Commercial radio is a business. It exists to make money - not to advance a political or social agenda.

As for the final day of WHDH, the individual involved is a personal friend of mine. He is quite alive and well, and working in radio in the Boston area.
 
Looks like my #3 preset will no longer be 97.7 ....Mix 98.5- you've made the spot!
 
Neanderpaul Hijacking thread

The long and the short of it is this: WILD was one of my favorite stations; a former jock that was fired from the station that hijacked WILD is complaining about criticism. Whether you like it or not, Paul Marshall, I do have friends in the industry. You and all the ghosts with fake names can swift boat all you want - you were not a factor and most of us agree your self promotion on this board is the only way people got to know anything about you. You didn't last at WAAF long, nor did you last at WBCN.

Those nominations of people in an industry where 8 corporations own all of radio are questionable. How many times did Carter Alan get nominated or win? All due respect to Carter but when consultants and program directors dictate what WAAF, WZLX, WBCN and other stations play, it is kind of like George W. Bush nominating Dick Cheney for man of the year. It's all a dog and pony show with no oversight and no real "voting". Who are the people nominating you and Mistress Carrie? Please.

PAUL MARSHALL WRITES:
You have once again attempted to hijack the thread by making it about a criticism of me. Joe, I've been out of the market now for almost ten months, and you continue to take shots. I respectfully ask that you knock it off. If I wasn't a factor, stop bringing me up. But, you can't. Because without someone to be negative toward, you have no reason to exist on this board.
I'm done responding to you in any way Joe. Continued personal attacks will simply be forwarded to the moderators. Have a nice life.
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WAAF took over WILD. You have decided to poke your head into this room. It is fair game. I've only been a guest on WAAF over the years, or produced a record that got 21 weeks in a row on WAAF ("Never Say Never" - I had the band open for Sammy Hagar at the Worcester Centrum thanks to the WAAF airplay).

You were a d.j., you got fired, and a great station has been hijacked so WAAF can simulcast. I don't see how this is good for radio diversity. I'm not talking about minority ownership - I'm talking about radio diversity - as in - as much as I don't like country music, I hate to see it leave Los Angeles radio so Rick Dees can spin Disco Duck or something.

Anyway, I just got back from a gay resort and the show tunes and the opera are NOT my thing so I am either ready to finally listen to WAAF or call my girlfriend up (God help us and protect me...no, not that...).

At least my friends had the courtesy to play BOOTLEG opera tapes during the ride up and back - so the stuff had some appeal - being one of a kind. Seeing that WCRB does well someone should be airing that on the radio - underground Opera. I just don't want to listen to it...or country music ...or WAAF.

WILD is gone. Some of us are very upset because...oh my God...they actually played music!
 
You have no friends in the industry. You're a running joke in the "industry" you're not a part of. You're the John Michael Karr of Boston radio, never did it but sure as hell likes to run your mouth. [EDIT]


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Maybe this thread can be over ten pages long (mostly with off-topic attacks) just like the ESPN Radio thread on the Philadelphia board (that was locked yesterday, because Julius was getting mad and throwing a fit like a little child, demanding the thread be locked...and the mods catered to his demands.)
 
[EDIT] back to the thread - WILD is gone, WAAF/Corporate Radio giving us another excuse to get XM or SIRIUS

[EDIT=attack on other user]
 
Hello, people? Back to radio discussion, ok?

This board is barely worth clicking on anymore, unless you like reading things like "EDIT = ad hominem attack."

Most of us on this board are working in an industry we love, really get pumped about. Let's agree on that, and leave the personal michegas out of it. I'm not saying Paul and Joe should hold hands and sing the Barney song, but for crying out loud, gentlemen, enough of this bickering on the board.

Radio One did the smart thing, business-wise. It wasn't that long ago they took over 97.7, it obviously wasn't making enough money for them. It happens.

I can actually hear WAAF now, and while some of the music is not my cup of tea, I find that much more of it actually is.
 
Hey Mickey 37 -

I'll make a deal with you - if Lucy Lu, Neanderepaul, Intercom99, Pug Ugly, Smoke, and the others who blast at people - not just at myself and Paul, if those troublemakers apologize (note how oh so "humble" Neanderpaul is getting like he's the victim; forgetting all the problems he has caused in the past), if those "ghosts" in the machine stop causing trouble, there'd be no need for the antidotes to their Swift Boating.

I don't start things - but if I print a new jab at them, you can rest assured it is justifiable because of some past sin of theirs that didn't get resolved by the Moderator.

So put the blame where it belongs: cowards behind screen handles that lash out and have no use on this board other than to break up threads.
 
Re: Look closer at what I wrote

Joe --

I singled out you and Paul only because it was fresh in my mind. Obviously, there are also others. My post was aimed at all of us, not just two people.

Heck, I've posted snippy attacks before on various threads. Over the past few months, though, some of the junk we see on the board is ugly.

If people decide this board is only a place for people to attack one another, not have civil discussion about an industry we're fortunate to be a part of, good luck to them.
 
well, I appreciate that, Mickey. Problem is, Paul & I get singled out because people know who we are.
The other nebulous people - the real troublemakers - know that their anonymity protects them from their misconduct. If the true names of Smoke, Pug Ugly, Intercomm99, etc. were revealed, there's no way they could keep their gigs. We ask them all to come forward and tell us which station they work at (right; as if they are employed) and who they are. It'll never happen - it would be too embarrassing for them, and they are cowards anyway - just as the Swift Boat Veterans for Bush are hardly American Heroes.

No matter what screen handle I've used, I've purposely been transparent about who I am. It was lots of fun when the "moderators" on the unmentionable board were aligned with the troublemakers.

http://radioinfight.blogspot.com/
 
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