You really want to screw things up? Open up those frequencies BUT making them non-commercial like all the other stations down that end of the dial. Watch heads explode.
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Another Station Likely to Leave the Air Soon
- Thread starter Barry
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It appears that WNYZ and other stations using the 87.75 LPTV frequency may be able to stay on the air for at least another 6 months past the original July due date to convert to a totally digital signal.
The FCC has granted KBKF-LD in San Diego a 6 month STA to continue broadcasting an analog FM signal in addition to a digital TV signal on 87.75. That indicates other stations such as WNYZ may be able to apply for the same extension.
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The FCC has granted KBKF-LD in San Diego a 6 month STA to continue broadcasting an analog FM signal in addition to a digital TV signal on 87.75. That indicates other stations such as WNYZ may be able to apply for the same extension.
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Predicting the loophole will never be fully closed. Not so much a case of saving a money-making enterprise but pressure from minority interests that some of these faux radio stations serve. There's always an election to keep in mind, and forcing a station with a following in a minority community is not good optics for any politician hoping to win or retain office in the relevant markets.
You may be right. There are stations that have been operating under STA's for various reasons for 20 or more years. The same could happen to the 87.7 stations.
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KBKF-LD is in San Jose not San Diego. WDCN has filed for a STA but it is pending status to stay analog for six months while they buildout their digital facility.
An article in Inside Radio states that the F.C.C. has released a Public Notice reaffirming the need for low power TV stations to power down their analog broadcasts by next Tuesday. The exceptions are KBKF in San Jose, and WRME in Chicago, owned by Venture Technologies. They have a 6 month extension to try out their system, which will provide digital TV signals along with analog FM.
Perhaps if those two stations don't receive significant interference complaints during the trial period, it could open the door for others on 87.7 to apply for permission to build similar systems. But in the meantime, they apparently do need to switch off their analog signals, effectively suspending such broadcasts as Radio Korea on WNYZ-LP. The Korean programming will possibly still continue on a translator on 101.5, and on WVIP HD4.
From InsideRadio
Perhaps if those two stations don't receive significant interference complaints during the trial period, it could open the door for others on 87.7 to apply for permission to build similar systems. But in the meantime, they apparently do need to switch off their analog signals, effectively suspending such broadcasts as Radio Korea on WNYZ-LP. The Korean programming will possibly still continue on a translator on 101.5, and on WVIP HD4.
From InsideRadio
WNYZ-LP was also granted an extension to continue broadcasting in analog until 1/10/2022.
I don't see any indication of that in the F.C.C. database.
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If they transmit analog FM in the middle of a noise "haystack" (i.e.: Digital TV), won't the analog sound noisy?
Then, the FCC will be forced to keep increasing the analog power limit.
Then, there will come a point where the FM interferes with the DTV signal.
Will the DTV then go away, leaving the analog FM station to operate as a full-power, out-of-band FM?
Then, the FCC will be forced to keep increasing the analog power limit.
Then, there will come a point where the FM interferes with the DTV signal.
Will the DTV then go away, leaving the analog FM station to operate as a full-power, out-of-band FM?
The extension is for converting to digital not staying in analog as they are now.
I'm still getting a signal on 87.7 on my car radio, but with no audio.
Voice of NY Radio Korea can still be heard on W268BY (101.5 FM), WVIP-HD4 (93.5-4 FM), and on the FM877 app. According to kevtronics on the National Radio forum, the broadcaster announced "a station digital construction period" from July 14 to August 24. The image below is from the broadcaster's website.
WNYZ-LP turned off the audio at some point before midnight Tuesday 7/13. The silent analog carrier remained on after midnight and, according to kevtronics' post above, it was still on during the 9 AM hour Wednesday morning. However, it's now off as of Wednesday afternoon 7/14.
Prediction: It will transition to a digital TV channel and end up getting leased out to an ethnic, religious, home shopping or infomercial bottom feeder.
Prediction: It will transition to a digital TV channel and end up getting leased out to an ethnic, religious, home shopping or infomercial bottom feeder.
According to some markets, quite a few.
WPOZ in Orlando is at 88.3 and WUSF is 89.7 and WCIE 91.5, both in Tampa. They are among the top stations.
Those are just three I can think of locally.
Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
Philly has 90.9 WHYY at #9 and 88.5 WXPN at #13 in the June ratings.
I doubt most people even know that the FM band is reserved for NCE stations below 92 MHz. If they're going to do a band scan they'll scan the whole band and pick the station that's playing the content they want to hear regardless of frequency.
The problem with the Franken FMs was that some radios don't even tune that low, and most of the remaining modern, digitally tuned radios sounded terrible on the 87.7 stations. That's because those stations were really transmitting on 87.75, halfway in between 87.7 and 87.8. Every one of my radios sounded staticky and distorted on the Franken station because it was impossible to tune into the exact frequency. On one of my Sangean radios, WNYZ actually sounded a little better on 87.8 but it was still too distorted to tolerate.
The problem with the Franken FMs was that some radios don't even tune that low, and most of the remaining modern, digitally tuned radios sounded terrible on the 87.7 stations. That's because those stations were really transmitting on 87.75, halfway in between 87.7 and 87.8. Every one of my radios sounded staticky and distorted on the Franken station because it was impossible to tune into the exact frequency. On one of my Sangean radios, WNYZ actually sounded a little better on 87.8 but it was still too distorted to tolerate.
A Sangean radio designed for good DX is going to have a much narrower IF than a typical home or car radio. WNYZ-LP always sounded fine when tuned in at 87.7 MHz on the various car radios I've used over the years, going back to when they were Pulse 87.
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