Any chance Cablevision would buy a LI radio station?

[SPRINGFIELDRAD]

They got their hands on all types of media (Newsday & TV)...just wondering if they would ever buy a LI radio station. If they ever did buy a station I could see the FCC breaking out the old rubber stamp.

Who cares about a monopoly? Let them have control of all the news we get. I get the feeling most Americans care more about American Idol over what's going on in the world.

 

[radioli]

They got their hands on all types of media (Newsday & TV)...just wondering if they would ever buy a LI radio station. If they ever did buy a station I could see the FCC breaking out the old rubber stamp.

Who cares about a monopoly? Let them have control of all the news we get. I get the feeling most Americans care more about American Idol over what's going on in the world.

As far as I know the FCC hasn't given the OK yet for the Newsday Cablevision deal. They should really take a close look to see who's got control of the News on LI. Between News 12 and Newsday, sounds like a monopoly to me.

 

[mkdanz]

Springfield, you beat me to the punch on this thread. Although my comment was that we should PRAY that Cablevision doesn't get into radio. Before you know it, we'd be paying to listen to their HD stations on the web, etc. I would expect they'd have acquired WLIE and simulcast News 12 Long Island. Actually, I always wondered why Stu Henry didn't LMA 540 to Cablevision News12 after his own local news effort failed.

As far as RadioLI's comment, I dont' see this as a Monopoly, since there are numerous news sources on Cable, TV, Print and Radio. I know their are meda control rules but I don't know how they apply to cable systems, cable content providers and newspapers.

 

[TonySantiago]

All I can say is that if Cablevision ever bought a radio station, you couldn't PAY me to listen to it....even if they flipped it to a pure dance format!

 

[wgliradio]

All I can say is that if Cablevision ever bought a radio station, you couldn't PAY me to listen to it....even if they flipped it to a pure dance format!

I find that hard to believe :

 

[TonySantiago]

I worked at Cablevision an "eternity" ago. So to that, you don't know my history there...though I can sympathize with those that really dislike them.

Hypothetically speaking, I wouldn't tell others NOT to listen to a rhythmic radio station run by Cablevision. I just wouldn't tune in.

 

[wgliradio]

I worked at Cablevision an "eternity" ago. So to that, you don't know my history there...though I can sympathize with those that really dislike them.

Hypothetically speaking, I wouldn't tell others NOT to listen to a rhythmic radio station run by Cablevision. I just wouldn't tune in.

I can't believe that. All we hear is the whining about a rhythmic dance station to the point it becomes ridiculous. Hell, I still listen to the stations I used to work for (albeit only one I left on bad terms), but if the product is decent, I would listen.

I'm not a big Cablevision fan either. Dolan is a moron. But the industry sucks far and wide, get over it.

 

[TonySantiago]

I can't believe that. All we hear is the whining about a rhythmic dance station to the point it becomes ridiculous. Hell, I still listen to the stations I used to work for (albeit only one I left on bad terms), but if the product is decent, I would listen.

I'm not a big Cablevision fan either. Dolan is a moron. But the industry sucks far and wide, get over it.

It's only ridiculous to those that don't understand why dance fans such as myself have been putting up a collective front regarding this. I don't want to bore you with the details....I'll just sum it up as dance fans in NYC finally getting a good station out of Pulse with hopes that the Pulse effect can spread to other markets in the country.

Cablevision was an extremely bad experience for me as an employee. I worked in Westchester (my understanding is that the employees in Long Island were treated somewhat better).

Get over it??? Nothing to get over...I'll sleep well.

 

[wgliradio]

It's only ridiculous to those that don't understand why dance fans such as myself have been putting up a collective front regarding this. I don't want to bore you with the details....I'll just sum it up as dance fans in NYC finally getting a good station out of Pulse with hopes that the Pulse effect can spread to other markets in the country.

Cablevision was an extremely bad experience for me as an employee. I worked in Westchester (my understanding is that the employees in Long Island were treated somewhat better).

Get over it??? Nothing to get over...I'll sleep well.

Who cares? Dance music? Do you see people crying about Jazz? Standards? Country? And what did you win? A station that can be picked up on every 4th PLL radio that happens to go to 87.7. I wouldn't hang my hat on that as being the model for stations around the country.

 

[RadioFixerCLE]

Who cares? Dance music? Do you see people crying about Jazz? Standards? Country? And what did you win? A station that can be picked up on every 4th PLL radio that happens to go to 87.7. I wouldn't hang my hat on that as being the model for stations around the country.

Well, some of us do bitch that there's no nostalgia or easy-listening or country formats on the air here. But then again, the only way to resolve that issue is to put your money where your mouth is and start your own station.

Nuff said. :-X

 

[wgliradio]

Well, some of us do bitch that there's no nostalgia or easy-listening or country formats on the air here. But then again, the only way to resolve that issue is to put your money where your mouth is and start your own station.

Nuff said. :-X

Exactly. And some of us are trying

 

[neo11]

It's only ridiculous to those that don't understand why dance fans such as myself have been putting up a collective front regarding this. I don't want to bore you with the details....I'll just sum it up as dance fans in NYC finally getting a good station out of Pulse with hopes that the Pulse effect can spread to other markets in the country.

Cablevision was an extremely bad experience for me as an employee. I worked in Westchester (my understanding is that the employees in Long Island were treated somewhat better).

Get over it??? Nothing to get over...I'll sleep well.

Who cares? Dance music? Do you see people crying about Jazz? Standards? Country? And what did you win? A station that can be picked up on every 4th PLL radio that happens to go to 87.7. I wouldn't hang my hat on that as being the model for stations around the country.

Your negativity is astounding. And yes, I see plenty of clamoring for country music, lots of it for standards as well, even if it is just amongst radio geeks. Ever been to the "dentist board"? It seems that hardly a week goes by without someone raising a thread about how great country or standards would be in NYC. Come to think of it, I've seen plenty of those threads here on Radio Info as well. There was one recently. And who can forget the whining and clamoring from the oldies "fans" from the moment WCBS-FM was jacked, to the moment it returned...and the continued whining after the switch back to CBS-FM, since the station wasn't exactly what the "fans" wanted?

Oh, and as for Pulse....I think you mis-spoke a bit. It would be more accurate to say that every 4th radio does *not* go down to 87.7 FM. Every car radio that I've been in contact with going back at least a decade, every walkman or portable radio or transistor I can ever remember owning, all went down to 87.5 or 87.7 FM. I know that Pioneer and Kenwood tuners don't seem to go down to 87.7, but most other radios seem to, and as such, that would mean that a great majority of people have the ability to tune to 87.7. Sure, it's not an ideal dial position, but I find that there's a great tendency to exaggerate the problems and issues with 87.7, almost as if many people would like to see it fail. So that when it fails, we can go back to whining about how there's nothing different on the radio dial, of course

 

[TonySantiago]

I'm gonna LOVE breaking this down!

Who cares? Dance music? Do you see people crying about Jazz? Standards? Country?

Go over to the other board. The answer is YES.

And what did you win? A station that can be picked up on every 4th PLL radio that happens to go to 87.7. I wouldn't hang my hat on that as being the model for stations around the country.

We "won" a dance station playing today's music. So it has a bad signal....quoting you.."WHO CARES?". Formatically...this IS the model. Joel Salkowitz is doing a damn good job with it, despite the limitations. And I'll add Stephanie to this post since I've seen her post. The ONLY way, aside from getting major money to make your own station, that you and others will get a missing format is to FIGHT for it. Get the support from fellow listeners. Make rallies, do petitions (physical..not those online ones). Whatever it takes. If oldies fans had done this immediately after the "Jack" flip, 'CBS probably would have gone back to oldies a lot sooner.

Now its on to other markets to further push for dance music formats. Won't stop till I die!

 

[RadioFixerCLE]

Your negativity is astounding. And yes, I see plenty of clamoring for country music, lots of it for standards as well, even if it is just amongst radio geeks. Ever been to the "dentist board"? It seems that hardly a week goes by without someone raising a thread about how great country or standards would be in NYC. Come to think of it, I've seen plenty of those threads here on Radio Info as well. There was one recently. And who can forget the whining and clamoring from the oldies "fans" from the moment WCBS-FM was jacked, to the moment it returned...and the continued whining after the switch back to CBS-FM, since the station wasn't exactly what the "fans" wanted?

Move past radio programming. If something is not offered, you can usually create or find something better with the technology available today.

Oh, and as for Pulse....I think you mis-spoke a bit. It would be more accurate to say that every 4th radio does *not* go down to 87.7 FM. Every car radio that I've been in contact with going back at least a decade, every walkman or portable radio or transistor I can ever remember owning, all went down to 87.5 or 87.7 FM. I know that Pioneer and Kenwood tuners don't seem to go down to 87.7, but most other radios seem to, and as such, that would mean that a great majority of people have the ability to tune to 87.7.
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I know for a fact that Alpine and JVC stereos do 87.7, but because of the narrow filters these radios are very distorted on this frequency. The problem is that TV audio is not deviated at 75kHz, yet Pulse is. The higher the swing, the more the audio you WANT to hear falls out of the bandpass on these radios, especially with high selectivity.

Clarion and Pioneer only cover to 87.9

On my 03 Toyota, which goes to 87.7, the audio always sounds offtune either on 87.7 or 87.9. And alot of people have Toyota stereos. I know it works on Ford Visteon radios, not sure of GM.

 

[RadioFixerCLE]

Go over to the other board. The answer is YES.

But not to the point where they post these ridiculous missives as you did. Believe me, the New York Radio Dance Coalition grew old fast.

We "won" a dance station playing today's music. So it has a bad signal....quoting you.."WHO CARES?".

Exactly. And if Cablevision sets up a dance station here, you would listen to it. Look, more power to you, but if there were any legs in that format, it would be on a legit signal. I don't think it will find enough people to find it on the dial to be a success. Alot of average people have turned to other methods of entertainment when radio does not serve them with music they like.

 

[RadioFixerCLE]

Ahhhh CRUD!!!!

I didn't write the above posts. They were written by WGLIRadio, not me. I had never logged out of my account (we both share a computer).

My apologies to y'all. Excuse me now, I have a neck to wring......

 

[mkdanz]

Ut Oh...looks like WGLI will be off the air....again

 

[TonySantiago]

Ahhhh CRUD!!!!

I didn't write the above posts. They were written by WGLIRadio, not me. I had never logged out of my account (we both share a computer).

My apologies to y'all. Excuse me now, I have a neck to wring......

I was gonna say, that didn't sound like you Stephanie! We've always been cool here and the other board.

WGLI, I would believe though. No sweat though.....there are the "haters" out there. I'm used to it.

 

[wgliradio]

WGLI, I would believe though. No sweat though.....there are the "haters" out there. I'm used to it.

AKA.. a dose of reality.

 

[TonySantiago]

WGLI, I would believe though. No sweat though.....there are the "haters" out there. I'm used to it.

AKA.. a dose of reality.
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And this is what makes it great...Dance music fans will back up what we're doing and that's what we're about....bridging the community. But it's the "haters" that motivate me to continue what I do because I really want to "stick it" to them (look at the Philadelphia board if you don't believe me). So really, all you are doing is adding "fuel to the fire". Whatever. Before this thread gets moved to "Take It Outside", we'll just agree to disagree.

Let's get back to the subject at hand.

I HIGHLY doubt Cablevision would ever do a dance format if they purchased a radio station....I could see them pulling off a Long Island version of a 1010 WINS with the News 12 resources since Long Island, in and of itself, does not have a full-time news radio outlet. That I could see working for them; I'll give credit where credit is due with News 12.