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Anyone see the Dr Pepper/Dre Commercial knocking dance?

it's called a FORM LETTER....this has been around since the dawn of time....
there is no major company or corp. that responds everytime some screwball challenges a planned, paid for ad campaign, as the Dre commercial surely was...
if you have thousands of techno freaks in the streets with signs and media coverage, they MIGHT take an over the shoulder glance...
welcome to the world....
 
BOOO just like when eminems famous "nobody listens to techno" quote and then dissed Moby. FYI: Dre is eminems producer -- they say we are all 10 people away from each other. If one of you know someone who knows him please send him a big fat f*ck you on my behalf.... The're "techno" haters and need to be singled out. This is EXACTLY why i never played hip hop remixes when I was programmer -- they piggy-back on dance and then throw us to the curve (it's happened before). Stick to your guns people -- dance music right now is a force to be reckoned with.
 
I disagree -- I gotta say that slow is not better when it comes to dancing. Look at Swing dance or salsa -- we cannot dance with slow music :) ..it's boring. Dancing needs to be complex with complex dancing moves. Dancing is really fun and healthy and America become a vegetable state...in latin america their's salsa and cumbia, in Africa you have your tribal dances (and real hip hop dances), here we just bob our head and move our hands. Have you ever tried working out to Hip hop? It doesn't work that way. We need our house, we need our electro, we need our techno.


KDM 7000 said:
I would say this commercial is a bit outdated, except for the fact that yes, he IS talking directly about what's going on today, so therefore, it is not really outdated. He can try all he wants to keep people stuck in the past and hope that the gangsta rap beat style lives on forever, but the trends will change regardless, as the new generation of kids continue to embrace their generation of sound. This is almost like the freestyle community knocking me because I choose to modernize my sound rather than reject the new stuff and only accept and play stuff that sounds like the 1980's Cover Girls and Nocera.

Now if Eminem or anybody came out and released his "nobody listens to techno" song today, then that would be outdated because it is obvious he's not knocking the new sound, but just stuck in the past.

The beat was super cheesy and way up there, somewhere around the Dj Sammy "heaven" speeds, but that's the stereotype that many people have towards dance today. Looking on the bright side, at least this stereotype is mostly with the NOW middle aged people rather than the younger generation, and it will be the youngsters who determine our musical future.

Well, let him continue to knock the sound. I just hope Flo Rida, Pitbull, Lil Jon, LMFAO, Will I Am...etc don't notice this commercial and take it personally, and it's a good thing he got the commercial in now while there is still a lot of truth to it. When the time comes that everything is no longer being considered pop and hip hop, a commercial like that would no longer be accurate.

I guess that's the one thing that never really changes- everything is always pop or hip hop. I remember when disco was pop. I remember when freestyle was latin hip hop or just hip hop or pop and there was no such thing as freestyle.....etc. I think there were many old school house songs that were r&b or pop... Just dying to see what half of today's music will be called a few years down the road when people begin to notice "wait a minute, something's different! This is not hip hop or pop... am I being Punk'd?"

At least in the U.K. they just had the common sense to just play it all together and embrace it all, even the pop and hip hop hits with real dance / house beats!

...But yes, in reality, slower is better because when it comes to movements and dancing, it is less complicated. Most people desire things to be as simple and less complicated as possible.. but making songs at 70, 69, or 64 bpm and lower can also lead to problems in a club as well, so in that case, faster would be better. I never saw a club successfully get by with playing slow jams and dedication music.

Mid tempo is the best, and 90 - 125bpm is pretty much the "safe" range, which is mostly mid tempo.

Notice how regardless of what happens or which way trends go, there is never a shortage of mid tempo hits, and the mid tempo area almost never gets out dominated by other tempo's.
 
mannyworks00 said:
I disagree -- I gotta say that slow is not better when it comes to dancing. Look at Swing dance or salsa -- we cannot dance with slow music :) ..it's boring. Dancing needs to be complex with complex dancing moves. Dancing is really fun and healthy and America become a vegetable state...in latin america their's salsa and cumbia, in Africa you have your tribal dances (and real hip hop dances), here we just bob our head and move our hands. Have you ever tried working out to Hip hop? It doesn't work that way. We need our house, we need our electro, we need our techno.

VERY HUGE POINTS BEING INTRODUCED HERE! VERY BIG POINTS!!!
But the fact still remains that salsa and the other types of swift complex dance moves are big and common among cultures outside of the "American culture". Those faster dance moves are of course common within the latin community, while at the same time, dance music is usually bigger within places with a larger latin or international group of people. Most American's (which I forgot to mention specifically - Americans..) have shown that they respond (according to club and radio play) more to the slower style beats. Also, many American's don't really like to work out. Some do it just to maintain the image they believe they are supposed to fulfill in society, while others just do it to feel like they are achieving something, then there are some who genuinely do it for their health, and others just skip out on it all together. Dance music is good for a workout, but when people are clubbing or at home or in the car not doing much, the last thing many want to think or be reminded about is working out.

But yes, very big points being made there. It's only a matter of time before change has to take place because nothing ever remains the same forever. If you listen to what top 40 sounded like just 15 years ago from the year 2000, there was absolutely no sign what so ever that things would change to sound as it did in 2000 on top 40 radio. Find the archives or past 102.7 KIIS FM radio shows from around 1984 or 1985 or so on YouTube. A HUGE difference from the sound of 2000! Right now, we are once again on that transition to another change...

Just wait until around 2015 or so.... and imagine how different things will sound by 2020 when Soulja Boy and Hurricane Chris are struggling to still make it and Jay-Z, Dr Dre, and many of them turn 50.
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Oh, and about the FORM LETTER script... I just realized another thing here; WHO is sorry? WHO is really regretting anything? Next time any company screws around or messes up and presents a FORM LETTER in front of my face... for example, I'll gladly use Continental Airlines as an example! Lets say they mess up with me (again) and they issue me a form letter! I am going to go around individually to each and every staff member to find the person who is feeling regretful or sorry. It's been around since the dawn of time? Well then that only makes it worse! ....But I guess as long as people continue to fall for it, it's all good. I think the Form Letter is just about as dumb as the low composite material Airbus likes to use in the tails of their aircrafts that will break off if anything should happen, yet nobody is looking into it because they know it's fuel efficient.. and money is more important than safety.
 
Excellent analogy and thanks for the dialogue. Yes, American's don't really work out and many do it for non-health reasons and most don't dance ...but even traditional old-school American's dance swing danced, and many rural American's today line-dance. Are slow dances ever complex? -- so let us agree to disagree that I don't agree that slow music better for dancing and Dr Dre/Pepper shouldn't be bitter.
 
this past decade has become an extremely sexualized one, and the slower, hip hop, regaeton tracks, Keri Hilson,So Special, Blame It, Pop Champagne, etc fill the dance floor(in the gay club where I spin) with much bumping and grinding..
very often, the reaction to house is exact to the Dre commercial
in Manhattan and Miami ,big locations with visitors from all over the world, it's different, of course, but Manhattan and Miami are not going to change America...
for better or worse, the lyrics of the slower, hip hop, etc tunes are blunt and to the point, and reflect the reality of this decade in America,and the more uptempo Sean Kingston/Black eyed Peas recent tracks don't signify a tidal change, in my opinion...
 
mannyworks00 said:
FYI -- I never liked DR. Pepper -- Tony santiago you should come up with a campaign called "DJ's don't drank Dr. Pepper". Have them write and boycott the company.

Or as strange as this may sound and it COULD work....have a DJ put an empty Dr. Pepper can CONSPICUOUSLY at the DJ booth. It can backhandedly show that having a Dr. Pepper at the DJ booth does nothing at all! It doesn't slow the party one bit and people are still dancing :)
 
I have yet to see this commercial on t.v..... and I have a bunch of cable channels! Makes me wonder how many people are really going to see it. I'm sure there will be many more people who will receive or see a form letter than there will be people who see this commercial within the next three months.
 
I saw the commercial on the Bravo "Housewives Of New Jersey" last week and I had to smile; it looked real good on tv..
 
I just watched "So You Think You Can Dance" from Thursday night on tivo, and there was the Dre commercial, on one of the biggest shows on tv-about dancing!
 
I had a near death experience yesterday. I saw this commercial and I almost died with disbelief. I couldn't believe such a thing was being displayed through my television set... I had to sell that t.v.
 
the version I've seen on TV was not the one on the youtube link. it was edited and did not contain the line "slower is better". I honestly DON'T think the theme is: "dance music stinks". It is saying that Dr Pepper (along with Dr Dre) is mass appeal, and his choice of spinning was more appropriate for that crowd. The cheesy rave DJ obviously could not read the crowd, and only a dance nerd would find that offensive. I appreciate tons of dance music, but I can still appreciate the commercial as it was somewhat comical. Don't understand the big stink here...
 
..oh, I wasn't going to say anything, but since this topic was resurrected, I have to say something about the internet Dr Pepper ad featuring Flo Rida. I just went back and checked and it was still there... They are talking about remixing or creating a unique mix of Flo Rida's "sugar" and being just like the "studio dr". I'm guessing Flo Rida is the Studio Dr.

I must say that his song "sugar" ft Wynter has grown on me a lot since the first time I heard it. You can check YouTube for Wynter's remake of "nothing compares 2 u" which was a good Sinead O Connor classic, and just ignore the comments about everyone and Rihanna trying to be techno now. I do agree though with the one who said that there is a borderline to where electro-pop ends and electronica begins, and she's sort of pushing it.. depending on which video you get, you might get different comments.
 
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