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[Don CT]

And DC is even more Democrat than NYC. My point is that the local media, whether in Boston or NYC or Philly or DC or Baltimore, is severely biased and the jury pool is both almost entirely Democrat and highly influenced by tainted local media.

By that logic nobody anywhere can get a fair trial as people live there and hear things.

 

[AbrahamJSimpson]

By that logic nobody anywhere can get a fair trial as people live there and hear things.

It also suggests that no one in a “blue area” is red, which is demonstrably and laughably false, and that being of the liberal persuasion means they cannot render a fair verdict based on evidence, also laughably inane.

 

[Don CT]

It also suggests that no one in a “blue area” is red, which is demonstrably and laughably false, and that being of the liberal persuasion means they cannot render a fair verdict based on evidence, also laughably inane.

This does bring up an interesting topic. Should the news media report on crime if it could persuade a potential jury.

 

[Larry]

And DC is even more Democrat than NYC. My point is that the local media, whether in Boston or NYC or Philly or DC or Baltimore, is severely biased and the jury pool is both almost entirely Democrat and highly influenced by tainted local media.

Remember federal juries usually come from a much wider geographic area than the city the federal court is located in. The Eastern District federal court in Philadelphia draws jurors from 9 counties, which way beyond what is considered the Philadelphia suburbs

 

[davideduardo]

Remember federal juries usually come from a much wider geographic area than the city the federal court is located in. The Eastern District federal court in Philadelphia draws jurors from 9 counties, which way beyond what is considered the Philadelphia suburbs

And the reason why Virginia swung Democrat in recent decades is the growth of government with the employees needing those expanded Northern VA suburbs to live in. Same with the counties surrounding DC in Maryland. And also for counties in NJ, up the Hudson River and in SW CT for the NYC metro area.

The same big Democratic city sprawl explains why Illinois, mostly Republican by geography, swings Democratic because of the Chicago metro area counties.

 

[TheBigA]

And the reason why Virginia swung Democrat in recent decades is the growth of government

The federal government expanded to Virginia during WW2. The Pentagon was built in 1941. DC, the District of Columbia, used to include Arlington County. Just because people work for the government doesn't mean they're democrats. Reminder that the current governor of VA is a republican. He's up for re-election this year when a 100K of his constituents are being fired.

 

[tbolt909]

This does bring up an interesting topic. Should the news media report on crime if it could persuade a potential jury.

To take it further, anyone who owns a smartphone must be disqualified from serving on a jury. They may have read something on a website. In fact, jurors should be illiterate to qualify.

One of the moderators on this site cannot accept that Trump is a convicted felon. He believes the local media in big cities and corrupt jurors railroaded him. Funny, he didn't mention anything about the current sham Supreme Court. Blaming the "mainstream media" is absurd...

 

[Jean Luc]

This does bring up an interesting topic. Should the news media report on crime if it could persuade a potential jury.

The sovereign commonwealth realm of Canada does not have the equivalent of a first amendment and thus is able to restrict irresponsible and prejudicial pre-trial publicity. The media's lust for numbers should never be allowed to outweigh anyone's right to a fair trial.

 

[tbolt909]

The sovereign commonwealth realm of Canada does not have the equivalent of a first amendment and thus is able to restrict irresponsible and prejudicial pre-trial publicity. The media's lust for numbers should never be allowed to outweigh anyone's right to a fair trial.

Canada is the 51st state of the US haven't you heard?
Nobody can get a fair trial in America anymore. However, you may get a pardon from Big Brother...

 

[gr8oldies]

OK, while this is supposed to be a non-pure-politics board, I have to correct this; the whole issue involves a traditional media market, New York City, that is almost 100% Democrat; much of it is vocally anti-Trump.

The conviction was for supposed crimes involving valuation estimates on properties for the purpose of obtaining loans. I've been involved in doing loans with major banks going back to the 70's; everyone puts in their estimates and the lender evaluates during its due diligence process.

This is like my trying to sell my house for $800,000 when surrounding homes are going for $300,000. I listen to offers for less, and eventually "the art of the deal" lets us find a point where the seller and buyer agree. But in this case, the court thought that a certain property in Florida was worth well under $50 million and higher declarations were illegal lies. In fact, lesser surrounding properties were worth over $500 million and the one in question was estimated at over a billion by knowledgeable local real estate experts.

The local media treated the valuations as lies, not part of normal real estate deals. In reference to the valuation of Mar-a-Lago, terms like "exaggerated", "inflated", "unrealistic" were used in print and broadcast. Of course, in Journalism 101 at Michigan State they taught me that you don't apply flavored adjectives to news items; you don't say "a crazy bystander yelled obscenities" but, instead, "a bystander yelled obscenities".

A nearly "pure blue" judicial system with nearly all blue jurors did not 1) understand business practices that all of us use and engage in, and, 2) disliked Trump for other reasons not related to the case and, finally, 3) they had heard from totally one-sided media that lies about valuations had been made.

This was an incident where nobody was injured, nobody was cheated and where a standard business practice was painted as a crime using a unique interpretation of an ancient statute.

I have listened to the audio and there was no encouragement to "storm" anything. In fact, the language used and available to hear online called for the crowd to peacefully protest, not to attack.

Yet there are many who see all these actions as a needed campaign to reestablish American credibility and influence, particularly in The Americas. The moves on getting the Chinese out of the Panama Canal (they were operating the ports at either end of the canal we built), on trying to bring the trade imbalances with Canada and Mexico to the forefront and the threats about our neighbors allowing nearly uncontrolled masses of people to use their territory to reach the U.S. border are all needed. Perhaps there is too much "showmanship" and a lack of traditional diplomacy, but many of us see a bad situation in need of remedy, no matter which party leads the charge.

To make this post have some semblance of radio and broadcast content, there have been numerous evaluations of the percentage of traditional media journalists who are registered to each party. All of those evaluations show a percentage in the high 90's that are Democrats, with a huge percentage who have actually made donations to that party at some level. So we have a media infrastructure in radio, video and print that is decidedly among the ranks of one party.

To me, that imbalance among journalists and their frequent employment of un-journalistic language is vastly more of concern than Trump calling Trudeau "Governor" and silly stuff like that.

Oh for God's sake, Donald Trump is as pure as the driven snow and just like Jesus Christ! All the prosecutors, all the witnesses, all judges are all in on one giant conspiracy against Our Lord and Savior, God's Chosen President and World's Most Perfect Man, Donald Trump, who has always been a lifetime Boy Scout. On 1/6, "are you going to believe Donald Trump or your lying eyes?".
You do know Trump's team had a right to challenge jurors?

Really? Haven't we been saying no one watches the network news anymore? Yet you're telling me "people don't worship Trump because of those horrible journalists". You certainly know the major networks are owned by conservative corporations? No one on the air is calling for those corporations to be nationalized.

Meanwhile, in the hinterlands, there is a completely closed media ecosphere where nothing outside the Fox News/Newsmax/RSBN/Christian radio bubble even penetrates. Donald Trump is perfect and meanies are persecuting him! The country is overrun by scary trans athletes!

You got your way, your orange felon and his cult are in charge, as well as an unelected South African billionaire.

 

[AbrahamJSimpson]

And the reason why Virginia swung Democrat in recent decades is the growth of government with the employees needing those expanded Northern VA suburbs to live in. Same with the counties surrounding DC in Maryland. And also for counties in NJ, up the Hudson River and in SW CT for the NYC metro area.

Or…try this wild idea on for size….people in those areas voted for democrats because they preferred that platform in those elections.

The same big Democratic city sprawl explains why Illinois, mostly Republican by geography, swings Democratic because of the Chicago metro area counties.

Land. Doesn’t. Vote. At least for the most part, the archaic and inane electoral college and senate notwithstanding.

It’s “sprawl” by big bad democrats, overturning the persecuted republicans, aided and abetted by the big bad liberal media. Because those local newscasts that near always begin with (1) fires or similar visually engaging tragedies; (2) crimes; or (3) weather, somehow have a liberal bias to said flames/crimes/rain-snow-heat-cold et al. Those indoctrinating newscasts, don’tchaknow.

 

[AbrahamJSimpson]

This does bring up an interesting topic. Should the news media report on crime if it could persuade a potential jury.

Should the media report on it? Yes. That’s what news is. When there was a major recent crime in my town, normally a relatively sleepy one, we wanted to know the facts as they stood at that time. What the crime was, when it happened, and yes, the arrest of a suspect. That person is without question entitled to a fair trial. But the public interest is also served by providing context around why it’s believed that person was involved and by extension that the crime was likely isolated and the community risk minimal.

 

[TheBigA]

This thread reminds me of the children's book about "City Mouse & Country Mouse." Two very different lifestyles:

Library of Congress Aesop Fables

That link is on a .gov website, from the Library of Congress. I'm sure at some point, it'll be shut down. But it tells the story of what we're experiencing now in media and government. The rural folks, regardless of the state, see things differently from the city folks. The divisions that existed between the north and south are now largely between rural and urban. Those different lifestyles mean different values, and those values are presented in our media.

The City Mouse and the Country Mouse (Text, Audio + Video)

Short story with audio and video: A city mouse tells wonderful tales of city life, but there are some things he neglects to mention...

www.thefablecottage.com

The City Mouse and the Country Mouse | Super Why! | PBS LearningMedia

Using this Super WHY! episode, students learn about visiting someone using the story of "The City Mouse and the Country Mouse". Students will explore the alphabet, learn about different types of transportation, practice the magic of spelling and use the power to read to change the story...

tn.pbslearningmedia.org

 

[gr8oldies]

Or…try this wild idea on for size….people in those areas voted for democrats because they preferred that platform in those elections.

Land. Doesn’t. Vote. At least for the most part, the archaic and inane electoral college and senate notwithstanding.

It’s “sprawl” by big bad democrats, overturning the persecuted republicans, aided and abetted by the big bad liberal media. Because those local newscasts that near always begin with (1) fires or similar visually engaging tragedies; (2) crimes; or (3) weather, somehow have a liberal bias to said flames/crimes/rain-snow-heat-cold et al. Those indoctrinating newscasts, don’tchaknow.

In my local market, the entire newscast can consist of any story involving University of Tennessee athletics. City council or County Commission could do anything it wanted to un-reported on if there's a coaching change, major recruit signing or anything like it. There's only the bare minimum state legislature coverage. Our GQP reps are usually portrayed in flattering light. Only one TV station did a story about Sen. Marsha Blackburn refusing to sit for an interview with any in-state TV station for YEARS, while she's on Fox/Newsmax/RSBN and her own podcast daily. It was interesting when our local TV stations would post the innocuous "state of the race" story about VP Harris, and the commenters would be accusing the TV station of "Communism", and "how DARE you. This is Trump country and you should only be covering Trump".

Maybe David buys into the belief that the American people unanimously wants Republicans to have absolute one-party rule with no opposition and completely unchecked power, and that all votes for Democrats are cheating. That seems to be what's behind the SAVE act and other voter suppression.

 

[davideduardo]

The federal government expanded to Virginia during WW2. The Pentagon was built in 1941. DC, the District of Columbia, used to include Arlington County.

Yes, when I worked for EZ Communications in 1970, Fairfax was almost a separate market, and the area going towards Prince William County was all forest. I am talking about the massive growth of the last 50 years which has changedd the overall political balance in the whole state of Virginia.

Just because people work for the government doesn't mean they're democrats.

Look at the data. The large majority of Federal Government employees in the DC metro area are Democrats.

Reminder that the current governor of VA is a republican. He's up for re-election this year when a 100K of his constituents are being fired.

And he won without northern VA counties or Richmond.

 

[TheBigA]

I am talking about the massive growth of the last 50 years which has changedd the overall political balance in the whole state of Virginia.

Once again, there is no generalization that can be made about the politics of government workers. Sam Alito lives in northern VA. I would tell you where, but that's classified info. When George Bush was president, all of a sudden there was an increase in the number of Texas style restaurants in NOVA. In fact one of them, Red Hot & Blue, was partly owned by Lee Atwater. People support a party because it reflects their interests, not because they're brainwashed by the media.

Look at the data. The large majority of Federal Government employees in the DC metro area are Democrats.

They're not allowed to ask about your party when you apply. However it seems the president agrees with your generalization, since he's firing them all.

And he won without northern VA counties or Richmond.

I refer you to my post about city mouse vs. country mouse.

 

[davideduardo]

To take it further, anyone who owns a smartphone must be disqualified from serving on a jury. They may have read something on a website. In fact, jurors should be illiterate to qualify.

Jurors are generally questioned regarding their exposure to news about a highly publicized and reported case. No more could owners of smartphones be excluded from juries than readers of the New York Times or Philadelphia Inquirer.

One of the moderators on this site cannot accept that Trump is a convicted felon.

I accept that he was convicted in a contrive legal warfare case where the facts of the case cover widely accepted practices of property appraisal and where there were no victims. Using a hugely negative jury pool and virulently anti-Red prosecutors, a fake case of "overvaluation" of assets was converted into a fraud issue.

He believes the local media in big cities and corrupt jurors railroaded him. Funny, he didn't mention anything about the current sham Supreme Court. Blaming the "mainstream media" is absurd...

The Supreme Court has been appointed according to the intentions of our Founding Fathers, and our democracy has survive much longer than that of most of the rest of the world. I lived in countries that had rewritten their constitution dozens of times over their time of independence, generally in the aftermath of a dictatorship. Media was closed, newspaper editors killed, radio station owners (me) exiled and content supervised by soldiers in the studios.

 

[TheBigA]

Media was closed, newspaper editors killed, radio station owners (me) exiled and content supervised by soldiers in the studios.

We're about a year or two away from that. They're using the regulatory process first. The killing starts when the lawfare is unsuccessful.

The Audacy bankruptcy will be the real flash point. If they change their approval because of Soros, then we're in stage 2.

 

[davideduardo]

Or…try this wild idea on for size….people in those areas voted for democrats because they preferred that platform in those elections.

Or try the real facts: people in those areas either worked for a Democrat dominated government or were receiving some form of potentially endangered government benefits.

Land. Doesn’t. Vote. At least for the most part, the archaic and inane electoral college and senate notwithstanding.

The Electoral Collage was designed to keep areas of the nation from dominating the governing process. It is rather unique world wide, and explains why we have had a stable government about to celebrate 250 years of independence.

It’s “sprawl” by big bad democrats, overturning the persecuted republicans, aided and abetted by the big bad liberal media. Because those local newscasts that near always begin with (1) fires or similar visually engaging tragedies; (2) crimes; or (3) weather, somehow have a liberal bias to said flames/crimes/rain-snow-heat-cold et al. Those indoctrinating newscasts, don’tchaknow.

You are talking about local TV news. Not the national network news. And both are on dying media. But the fact remains that old media, print, radio and TV, is dominated by a huge majority... reports show as much as 97% and never below 90%.... of news staffers being Democrats.

At least in "new media" we have the ability to find sites ranging from the very influential HuffPost to the equally important Breitbart ones where different perspectives are offered. I look several times a day at a variety of those, as well as Reuters, Infobae and several international news organizations. Online, it is easy to find and compare opinions. Over the air, we get 1000 clones of Stephanopoulos.

 

[CTListener]

Or try the real facts: people in those areas either worked for a Democrat dominated government or were receiving some form of potentially endangered government benefits.

The Electoral Collage was designed to keep areas of the nation from dominating the governing process. It is rather unique world wide, and explains why we have had a stable government about to celebrate 250 years of independence.

You are talking about local TV news. Not the national network news. And both are on dying media. But the fact remains that old media, print, radio and TV, is dominated by a huge majority... reports show as much as 97% and never below 90%.... of news staffers being Democrats.

At least in "new media" we have the ability to find sites ranging from the very influential HuffPost to the equally important Breitbart ones where different perspectives are offered. I look several times a day at a variety of those, as well as Reuters, Infobae and several international news organizations. Online, it is easy to find and compare opinions. Over the air, we get 1000 clones of Stephanopoulos.

Stephen Miller, is that you?