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It's sort of a paradox, CCM radio won't play the CCM gold songs (70's, 80's, and even the 90's), because they want the sound to be digital, which to me is not reason enough to not play them, but that's just me, and the record labels won't bother to remaster them in digital, because they believe there isn't a market or demand for it, yet the record labels have digitized the big bands of the 1930's and 40's from the old scratchy shalack 78 rpm recordings (now there you can really tell the difference in the sound quality from the original recordings and the new CD's), the sounds of rock and roll from the 50'and 60's, disco from the 70's, country music from the 50's-80's so why not create that demand as there are plenty of "older" CCM listeners who got saved during those early years of CCM radio.

My point is if CCM radio played that music then there would be a demand for it, even from some "younger" listeners. The reason I know this, is during the 1960's, big band music was non-existant on radio for the most part during that time. It was very hard to find that music anywhere on either AM or FM. Classical Music was very available on FM and even on AM then, but big band was a scarce commodity. As a result the music stores had very little big band records to sell as the record labels weren't releasing any. In the 1980's the nostalgia formats started popping up on radio, all of a sudden the record labels started re-releasing the big bands on CD all digitalized. Today even though the large segment of the big band audience is definitely the older segment of the population being in their 70's, 80's, and 90's there's a large selection to choose from at the record store. So it would make sense that the a "revival" of CCM gold could happen if CCM radio started playing it again.
 
There have been a few "Best of" CD reissues of some classic CCM artists, but they don't really seem to be promoted on a big scale by the major labels. If more of that were done there might be more demand for classic CCM, and that could also be played on the radio. I think that another factor is that although CCM existed in the 70's and 80's, a lot of people didn't discover it until the 90's or later, because of the lack of CCM radio in their areas until networks like K-LOVE and WAY-FM expanded. Because of that the only CCM a lot of people know is from the last 5 to 10 years, so that's what gets played by CCM stations. I guess it's a vicious circle in a way.

R.D.P. said:
As of late, I've been hungry for and been exclusively buying the "Conservative" Gospel performers.

There's something awesome and wonderful about listening to the great Hymns that still lead many lost souls to Jesus.

R.D.P. <><

P.S. The Bible Tract Ministry, I'm doing now, may have lead to my sudden change in musical taste. It sure has caused me to become addicted to the King James Version of the Bible. Can't seem to shake off that addiction, for some reason.
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RDP,
It's OK for your tastes to change, just please don't go KJV Only on us. :D
 
You don't have to worry.  I'm just addicted to it.  Nothing more and nothing less.

R.D.P. <><

P.S. Musically I've also become addicted to the Classical Masterpeices.  As of late, I've also been buying Beethoven, Mozart, Chopin and the other great Classical musicians that composed the most beautiful songs ever released. 
 
R.D.P. Classical Music is special and I'm with you on that. My guess is to why you're getting into the more traditional music is that quite often praise music, which I prefer over hymns generally, has less depth to their lyrics generally speaking. The words to many hymns however, are wonderful and so expressive. That might be why a number of CCM worship groups have started updating the hymns into more modern styles. This way they can still express those timeless truths that folks like Charles Wesley did express over 200 years ago (in the case of the United Methodist Church). Other Christian traditions like the Roman Catholics, Lutherans, and Baptists, etc, may have even older hymns they use.

I also find sometimes that having some ceremony in the service can add an important element, especially at Holy Communion. I'd not want it all the time, but there are times, when it seems to me that we can become too casual and sort of not show the respect and honor when in HIS presence. Sometimes I think folks can forget whose presence we are in when at worship. Yet, I really like the more casual type service. So it seems that there is a balance. This might be part of what you're experiencing. You may have grown up with the King James Bible so that is comfortable and in some ways reassuring. I'm old enough to remember when we did have Bible reading and did say the Lord's Prayer in public schools each morning right before we had the Pledge of Alligiance. We used a KJV Bible, so I became very familar with Psalm 23 and Psalm 100 from the KJV Bible as we kids always read one of those two scriptures (the teacher's never told you what passage to read. I wonder what the teacher would have done if one of the kids started reading from the Song of Solomon). Today, when I hear the NIV or other modern English versions of Psalm 23 or 100, it just doesn't sound right, but I do not use a KJV Bible now. I use a New KJV, NIV, NLT, Amplified, New American Standard as my Bibles.

I've talked with many people, who've said that one thing about church they really like is it's timeless truths and how things don't change all the time like it does out in the world. That can be comforting, especially as we start to age. That is why the older folks tend to not like the praise type services and prefer the traditional organ/choir/hymn service. However, that too can also cause the church to appear stodgy to the unsaved. So I believe balance is in order. The truths of the Gospel never change, but how we present it sure does. Who would have thought 50 years ago we'd be using Powerpoint, praise bands, etc, yet as you've demonstrated there is still a hunger for that more traditional aspect of worship too.

Bringing this back to radio, that hunger for the more traditional or conservative format of worship might also explain why the traditional Christian radio stations continue to survive. An example I know of is WDAC in Lancaster, PA and WRBS in Baltimore, MD.
 
I find myself listening to the Hymns, Instrumentals, Conservative Musicians and Classical Masterpeices, because I was getting bored with the CCM.  

I'm just not finding much excitement in the newer stuff and that's why my musical tastes have changed, over the past few months.

R.D.P. <><
 
It seems that music and other styles comes in waves. At the crest of the wave the popularity is artificially high ... you may notice looking at a cresting wave that there is air beneath the crest. What follows is a huge wave and then a low spot in the water. Behind that the water level comes back up and there will be echos of that wave.

Now turn that wave around and place it on a timeline from "now" at the crest through "the future" as we look at the wave, the low spot and the echos. Then pick a genre and place "now" at the peak of that genre's music. You will see the popularity ride the wave.

Big Band had it's crashing peak ... then the expected lull and then growing popularity. Most genres will follow the same pattern in their own timeline. Retro has always been in ... it just needs to be at the right time.
 
Yes...I have converted from dress to casual wear, many times in public restrooms (with a Chick tract lying on the kamode)...... ;D
 
Yes, I've read from them. However I don't use them. Chick may have a great product but I'd rather pass on them.

The Bible tracts, I use, are created by Me and the Trinity. That's right! With the Trinity's help, I've already created over 20 tracts, with more coming.

These tracts don't even have the cool cartoons, that Chick puts in theirs. Mine has a small message, various Bible Verses, a few questions and the sinners Prayer.

So far, I'm having awesome success with mine and I'm now celebrating three years with this Ministry.

Isn't God wonderful!

R.D.P. <><

P.S. If you want copies of mine, let me know and I'll send you some. They are very effective when it comes to sharing the Gospel, with the lost.
 
Chick I've got no use for. I often find them on the toilet paer holder. At the laundromat, however, they seem to have every issue of the Watchtower ever produced.
 
Johnathan said:
You're right. I have been taking a listen to WNYG online tonight, and they have a very wide, interesting mix. It might be the format that adds enough variety to AC that makes it listenable for those who dislike repetition.

The website is http://www.wnygspiritofny.com/ for those who'd like to give it a try themselves.
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i really do enjoy the format..and its programed that there isn't one bad song played. DJ's from morning to night ...i'm very happy listening to the station...they've also always have some good promotions going on always.
 
Now that's more like worshiping like a family! (To be clear, I'm referring to the variety of musical styles, not the ministry programming. That could use some serious tightening! :) )
 
You could just skip the format blurring and go straight for the blended format like Home.FM. Interesting concept... also risky.
 
duke_fan said:
You could just skip the format blurring and go straight for the blended format like Home.FM. Interesting concept... also risky.
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I'm doing the same thing with Grey FM (www.grey.fm), although the target sound is more of a Hot AC

Here are the last 12 played:

Jessie Daniels - Hello Goodbye
Matt Wertz - Carolina (discovered him through MySpace)
Filter - Take a Picture
Plain White T's - Hey There Delilah
Donna Lewis - I Love You Always Forever
Matthew West - More
Skillet - The Older I Get
Daughtry - It's Not Over
Barenaked Ladies - Pinch_Me
Linkin Park - What I've Done
The Fold - Medicine
Daniel Powter - Bad Day
 
Seems like there was some discussion about a format like Grey.FM a long while ago on various boards (can't remember if it was this one or not) - and it's a great format. Thanks for actually putting it online.
 
William_Yeager said:
duke_fan said:
You could just skip the format blurring and go straight for the blended format like Home.FM. Interesting concept... also risky.
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I'm doing the same thing with Grey FM (www.grey.fm), although the target sound is more of a Hot AC

Here are the last 12 played:

Jessie Daniels - Hello Goodbye
Matt Wertz - Carolina (discovered him through MySpace)
Filter - Take a Picture
Plain White T's - Hey There Delilah
Donna Lewis - I Love You Always Forever
Matthew West - More
Skillet - The Older I Get
Daughtry - It's Not Over
Barenaked Ladies - Pinch_Me
Linkin Park - What I've Done
The Fold - Medicine
Daniel Powter - Bad Day
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I'm sorry? LINKIN PARK. Seriously? How far we have strolled from the Via Dolorosa? OK, not so sacrosanct, but geesh. Seriously?
 
Linkin Park is not a "Christian Artist" but the lyrics could be read as speaking to spiritual issues. The song mentioned says "So let mercy come / And wash away / What I’ve done."

There is precedent for this, as a licensed Christian Rock station in Canada plays some secular artists that speak to spiritual issues. A complaint from a secular Rock station went to the CRTC (Canada's broadcast regulator) and it was determined that the station didn't need to stick to only those artists signed to a "Christian" record label, but instead, the station was free to consider the lyrics of each musical selection when determining how appropriate it was for their format.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFEQ-FM

Unfortunately, it now appears that the station really wants to drastically cut back on Christian/religious music, because they believe it is hurting their revenue and legitimacy in the market as an advertising choice for businesses.
 
duke_fan said:
Interesting concept... also risky.
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This past week on Grey FM, listeners listened to an average of 46.8 songs for every song that listeners dropped. The average time spent listening was over 71 minutes. The loss ratio has been between 2-3% for the life of the station to date.

I think a lot of the success of a format like Grey FM, Home FM, or even the old CFEQ depends on how you position and image the format - a Christian station that adds some secular songs and still positions themselves as "family-friendly"/"positive"/etc. and has stop sets that resemele the typical CCM station probably isn't going to get very far.
 
Johnathan said:
Linkin Park is not a "Christian Artist" but the lyrics could be read as speaking to spiritual issues. The song mentioned says "So let mercy come / And wash away / What I’ve done."
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This is not hypersensitivity... well, maybe a little, but this was the problem with CCM for years, and now it seems that its listeners are embracing this lukewarm pablum of "well, what I heard was..."

The same logic could be used for Creed - and we have all witnessed how Scott's walk with God has been going lately. Why can't the body embrace the heck out of bands like Third Day that have a killer sound without the compromise. They don't have lyrics that can be "read as Christian", they are.

CCM is finally getting music, lyrics and musicians that sound more than comparable with artists on other formats. HOME and GREY is good for people that like potpourri tunage. I know, I'm one of them. But you won't catch Linkin Park on my iPod.

I'm more of a Jazz guy anyway ;D
 
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