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Re: ita example WRRK

marcus250 said:
Interested Observer said:
Todd said:
What should the call letters be for B 94?
Since WBZZ is not avaliable, I would go with either WBZB or WZZB.

I really don't think that the calls make any difference whatsoever to what the listeners think about the station. That's been beat to death on this board many times. The only people interested in the calls are radio geeks like us...
nobody seems to care that WRRK wasn't changed to reflect bob f.m. like scott fibish said to WBZB

Probably because "Bob", like "Jack" and any other variety hits station, is a gimmick format. It lasts a short time before you switch it. It's not "built to last", so to speak. In other words, Steel City Media might decide to go back to Classic Rock one day, so why give up call letters that have enjoyed relatively long market heritage for the past 17 years?
 
The other part of changing the call letters is that out-of-town agency buyers are used to the old calls. Sometimes stations are afraid they will lose national buys just because the buyers don't know the new calls.

Saul was a NY agency guy, he would definitely think this way....
 
Raymond said:
Or, do you think perhaps, Clark never showed up?

Or, do you think perhaps, anonymous posters shouldn't make generalizations?

My mother was in the ICU when CC released me. Some of you might remember that it made the headlines of Inside Radio. The visiting hours in the ICU (if memory serves) were 1 to 1:30 PM and 6 to 6:30 PM, and if I had continued to work, I would never have been able to visit her. She ultimately had a double bypass, was mostly housebound after that, and faded away a few years later when her kidneys failed.

I was out of radio for more than two years dealing with the situation. My stepfather, who was battling colon cancer, passed away before she did. My uncle was in the process of going into a nursing home, where he still is. Three sick adults -- all of them my only close relatives.

What time I took off from CC, I took unpaid. In the end, they decided to give me vacation pay for my weeks off and severanced me decently.

I would make the same decision today.

Family comes first.

And "never showed up" isn't the story.

C.
 
Raymond said:
What I knew (from people who work at the CC building)...

Hearsay is a sure recipe for disaster.

...started to formulate WJJJ without him or his expertise.

That happened prior to my alleged "not showing up." A cursory look at the ratings will reveal that WJJJ was doing very well before it was "re-formulated." And I must admit that once the decision was made (not by me) that Britney Spears belonged on a "Jammin' Oldies" station, my interest in continuing was greatly diminished.

There were other issues, but I bear no ill will toward anyone. I just want the record straight.

And be careful of tales told by those who may have political or personal agendas to advance.

C.
 
If only the rest of the business, indeed the rest of the world, saw it that way Clarke. There are more important things in life than your next air shift.
 
cingram said:
A cursory look at the ratings will reveal that WJJJ was doing very well before it was "re-formulated." And I must admit that once the decision was made (not by me) that Britney Spears belonged on a "Jammin' Oldies" station, my interest in continuing was greatly diminished.

"Believe" by Cher (once an hour, seemingly) was the nail in the coffin for that station IMO. I'm guessing you didn't pick that one either Clarke? ;)
 
cingram said:
A cursory look at the ratings will reveal that WJJJ was doing very well before it was "re-formulated." And I must admit that once the decision was made (not by me) that Britney Spears belonged on a "Jammin' Oldies" station, my interest in continuing was greatly diminished.

I don't blame you on that one, Clarke. "Jammin' Oldies" was good..."Jammin' Hits" was good for nothing.
 
kenhawk1160 said:
I don't blame you on that one, Clarke. "Jammin' Oldies" was good..."Jammin' Hits" was good for nothing.

I think the ratings proved it. Cincinnati's "Jammin' Oldies" station stood until late last year (and even then, it changed only because of the station's sale); I'm convinced 104.7 here could have survived and/or thrived a lot longer if we simply had been left alone - and most of all, promoted.

Remember also that "Jammin' Oldies" was an AMFM concept; I don't believe CC felt as favorably about the format, and in the end, I probably would have just as soon avoided having my name attached to a niche musical idea, even though it did well. Hindsight, however, is always 20/20.

Part of the reason I post so infrequently on these boards is because someone anonymous always insists on rehashing events that are more than six years old. That part of my career is long over. But it was fun, at least for a while.

Back to stealth mode.

C.
 
corporateradiosucks said:
"Believe" by Cher (once an hour, seemingly) was the nail in the coffin for that station IMO. I'm guessing you didn't pick that one either Clarke? ;)

Ugh. No. We were flirting with the early 90's before the "Jammin' Hits" switch happened (I recall C&C Music Factory and a few others) but "Believe," which was popular in '98, was most definitely not added by me.

C.
 
cingram said:
I think the ratings proved it. Cincinnati's "Jammin' Oldies" station stood until late last year (and even then, it changed only because of the station's sale); I'm convinced 104.7 here could have survived and/or thrived a lot longer if we simply had been left alone - and most of all, promoted.

Remember also that "Jammin' Oldies" was an AMFM concept; I don't believe CC felt as favorably about the format, and in the end, I probably would have just as soon avoided having my name attached to a niche musical idea, even though it did well. Hindsight, however, is always 20/20.

Clarke...in your humble opinion, do you think "Jammin' Oldies" could succeed if given another chance in Pittsburgh? I say it can, but I'd like to hear your input on it.
 
kenhawk1160 said:
Clarke...in your humble opinion, do you think "Jammin' Oldies" could succeed if given another chance in Pittsburgh? I say it can, but I'd like to hear your input on it.

I think the pre-existing "Jammin' Oldies" format on 104.7 could have been sustained, at least for a while longer. I honestly don't know if a relaunch on another frequency would be successful today. My gut feeling is that it had its shot in the marketplace.

C.
 
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