Bay Area Radio Predictions for 2010

[sfradio]

It is sooooooo sad that music made and released in 2009 gets so little air time.
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Time for someone to show some cojones and take a chance in 2010 on music made in 2010, not 1980.

So what do you call the stuff that Movin, Wild and Rev play? For that matter, The Wolf?

Yeah, what are u talking about, there is no station playing 80's or 90's in the bay, there needs to be less music from 2010 on stations

 

[Michael Rivers Kramer]

It is sooooooo sad that music made and released in 2009 gets so little air time.
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Time for someone to show some cojones and take a chance in 2010 on music made in 2010, not 1980.

So what do you call the stuff that Movin, Wild and Rev play? For that matter, The Wolf?

Yeah, what are u talking about, there is no station playing 80's or 90's in the bay, there needs to be less music from 2010 on stations

I think it's time for a "Best of Radio-Info boards posting section"...You know, kind of like the "Best of Craigslist"

 

[tripton99]

No '80s or '90s? What do you call almost all the music on KFOG, The Band, Star and KOIT? At least they have listeners. Using Star as an example, pick any hour and tell me if more than two songs from the whole hour were released this year?
Pick any hour on KFOG (forget the 10am hour) and give me an average age of the songs for your chosen hour.
Maybe seven of the 40 music stations in the area might give new music a shot. Just don't tell me there are holes in the timeline that need filling. I just cringe at the thought of dividing up the oldies spectrum into friggin' eras ad nauseum. Why not put your braincells on some adrenalin and find a music or program director with big enough ears and brains to lead rather than follow?

 

[SFStatic]

Even in the heyday of Top 40, very few played more than 4 new songs per hour, and either had a Top 40, or Top 30, or Top 20, plus a few "adds. It's more than now, but even then, if you figure 16 songs per hour, it was only about 25% new music...and no one ever played the real up and comers in the mornings, so less then.

 

[LKellerIII]

Even in the heyday of Top 40, very few played more than 4 new songs per hour, and either had a Top 40, or Top 30, or Top 20, plus a few "adds. It's more than now, but even then, if you figure 16 songs per hour, it was only about 25% new music...and no one ever played the real up and comers in the mornings, so less then.

My memory is quite different. To me, the "heydey" of Top 40 was the mid and late 60s in LA. During drive time hours on KHJ, KRLA and KFWB, the ratio was generally 3 hits from the current play list (Boss 30/TuneDex/Fabulous 40) to one "golden" (oldie). That would be 12 current hits per hour, if you're assuming a total of 16. Perhaps only 1 or 2 of those would be "Hitbounds." During mid-days and nights, the ratio was 1 "oldie" to one current hit; or about 8 current hits per hour.

So at most, these stations were 75% new music (drive times), and 50% new music during other day parts. Also, keep in mind that the "oldies" were generally from the previous 3 to 5 years - many of them were closer to recurrents than oldies. They had a very short list of 50s songs they would play - but even those were no more than a decade old, usually less.

I paid less attention to the ratio when I moved to the Bay Area in the 70s, but I think it was more or less the same.

 

[kenrayc]

Even in the heyday of Top 40, very few played more than 4 new songs per hour, and either had a Top 40, or Top 30, or Top 20, plus a few "adds. It's more than now, but even then, if you figure 16 songs per hour, it was only about 25% new music...and no one ever played the real up and comers in the mornings, so less then.

My memory is quite different. To me, the "heydey" of Top 40 was the mid and late 60s in LA. During drive time hours on KHJ, KRLA and KFWB, the ratio was generally 3 hits from the current play list (Boss 30/TuneDex/Fabulous 40) to one "golden" (oldie). That would be 12 current hits per hour, if you're assuming a total of 16. Perhaps only 1 or 2 of those would be "Hitbounds." During mid-days and nights, the ratio was 1 "oldie" to one current hit; or about 8 current hits per hour.

So at most, these stations were 75% new music (drive times), and 50% new music during other day parts. Also, keep in mind that the "oldies" were generally from the previous 3 to 5 years - many of them were closer to recurrents than oldies. They had a very short list of 50s songs they would play - but even those were no more than a decade old, usually less.

I paid less attention to the ratio when I moved to the Bay Area in the 70s, but I think it was more or less the same.

BOSS RADIO KYNO 1300 (reformulated in the mid 60s by Bill Drake and Bobby Ocean) was basically the same throughout the 70s and then on KYNO-FM 95.7 in the 80s.75% new music and the rest recurrents from less than 5 years back.

 

[SFStatic]

In the midwest at the time, we never had this high a ratio of currents. I can't speak to So Cal stations, or even Bay Area ones. It was 1966-70 that I am thinking of. One place I was at did roll the #1 song every hour and 15 minutes, however, which probably caused a few all night jocks to commit suicide when it was a sucky top hit.

 

[skyrocker]

Haven't dropped in for awhile and was trying out this set of threads when I got sucked in, knowing someone who works at the station(s) mentioned...

So, the inner narrative began...

...KIOI 101.3 flip to a 60s 70s format...
[why limit themselves?]
...some cojones and take a chance...on music made in 2010...
[1.whose cajones? 2. 2010 isn't here yet, how can Cajoneman play it?]
...So what do you call the stuff that Movin, Wild and Rev play? ...The Wolf?
[good question. No, really. And just then, another hit me. I wonder how you'll consider answering it: ]
"What's a better name than the one currently used to classify the type of music played on 96.5FM/KOIT?"
I mean, once the Silver Bells and reindeer disappear, you know.
It's not JUST "Light Rock," on KOIT; there's much more -- something for Wolf listeners, Movin listeners, guys as well as women.
"Lite Rock" isn't even a genre anymore, is it? What do you call such a wide mix as KOIT's? It's much like "ReCurrent Top-40, but I wonder how would you label it.

Now the plug. I'll be playing whatever it is you call it this Monday and Tuesday, mid day 10A to 3P; subbing for Larry Ickes who's out for extensive detail work on his beautifully tanned feet. Or something, I was already mentally counting the money...

Whatever else you label it, call it the number one music station in the Bay Area, most of the time. Way most. What a consistent track record. If I was Bill Conway I'd HAVE to have someone whose job it would be to monitor and neutralize my ego, which would easily be the size of the distance between Turlock and Clovis up and down HiWay-99. I mean, c'mon. I'm just sayin'...

 

[SFStatic]

Have a great holiday, BO, and enjoy all that Lite Rock or whatever it is. Conway seems to be humble enough, especially considering the consistant success they've had there. With all the crazy stuff or just plain bad stuff on the air around, KOIT really remains kind of an oasis of consistency.

 

[Geek-O-Rama]

Wow, an earlier post said KOIT would switche back to Lite Rock after Christmas. Lo and behold, It has happened!!
Again this board knows what is truly happening in SF Radio

 

[tripton99]

KOIT will resume Christmas music programming somewhere around Juy 5th.

 

[punkdj]

live 105 will flip to an all 90s format, or eh top 40...
- with channel 923 now in the mix theres no way the numbers will go up

 

[Michael Rivers Kramer]

KOIT will resume Christmas music programming somewhere around Juy 5th.

LOL...I was thinking about them flipping on Labor Day Weekend myself.

 

[musicman3355]

live 105 will flip to an all 90s format, or eh top 40...
- with channel 923 now in the mix theres no way the numbers will go up

It can't be top 40 since Movin 99.7 fills that void... CBS Radio wouldn't want 2 of their stations to compete with each other. If Live 105 flips, I would probably see "Fresh 105.3", to battle out KOIT.

 

[cayenne]

Can the Bobby Ocean, John Mac Flanagan, Ken in Concord love fest please tone down. It's becoming tired, transparent and ultimately tends to diminish the their legacy...

 

[airpab]

LIVE 105 isn't likely going anywhere! Their signal is superior to Channel 923 and so is their music!

But if they do, I think they'd take it 60's/70's/Some 80's Classic Hits/Oldies!

The suits have got to see how well this format is doing in most major markets?? Or not!

Anyway, a huge void on the Bay Area radio dial !

 

[LKellerIII]

live 105 will flip to an all 90s format, or eh top 40...
- with channel 923 now in the mix theres no way the numbers will go up

It can't be top 40 since Movin 99.7 fills that void... CBS Radio wouldn't want 2 of their stations to compete with each other. If Live 105 flips, I would probably see "Fresh 105.3", to battle out KOIT.

LIVE 105 isn't likely going anywhere! Their signal is superior to Channel 923 and so is their music!

But if they do, I think they'd take it 60's/70's/Some 80's Classic Hits/Oldies!

The suits have got to see how well this format is doing in most major markets?? Or not!

Anyway, a huge void on the Bay Area radio dial !

Yes - Live 105 still has the format mostly to itself given 92.3's signal. And Lite Rock's not likely. I recall that KOIT bought the rights to the "Fresh" branding a couple of years ago. They don't really use it, and perhaps it has expired...I don't know. But 105.1's signal is inferior to 96.5s. KOIT would kick the crap out of "Fresh 105.3."