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Beasley swinging the ax

OK you can see where Fort Myers Beach is, trust me on this a 15 foot wall of water washed over FMB and into the bay on the backside then up to the WJGO transmitter site that houses a lot of Beasley stations among others.

Note all the mobile homes strewn about in the second picture, and the empty spaces where the homes were swept away.'




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The Pro teams get the lions share of the revenue on Radio broadcasts. The local station gets the "prestige" of being the flagship home of the team, but that doesn't translate into much. The fees to carry the games can be expensive, so some stations have ended their partnership when they realised it wasn't worth it...
 
The Pro teams get the lions share of the revenue on Radio broadcasts. The local station gets the "prestige" of being the flagship home of the team, but that doesn't translate into much. The fees to carry the games can be expensive, so some stations have ended their partnership when they realised it wasn't worth it...
This is also the reason some games - college, pro and otherwise, are now finding their way onto streaming websites rather than TV stations or networks. With all the fees and costs involved, it's increasingly more difficult for stations and networks to make any serious money, or in some cases break even..So the mentality has kind of shifted to a model of - if fans of a certain team really want to see at least certain games, they'll need to pay for the streaming service to get them.
 
Could we see a scenario where more professional sports teams take their local radio broadcasts in-house (I suspect a few pro teams do it already), buying airtime, selling spots, and once the expenses are paid for (buying airtime, administrative costs of the team's radio network, paying announcers and production expenses), keep whatever money is left?

In some cases, some "big four" (MLB, NFL, NHL, and NBA) pro sports teams might actually make more money from radio broadcasts this way than selling rights, for once the costs of producing games are covered, the team keeps the rest of the money.

If I were a high-level executive of a "big four" professional sports team with a radio contract about to expire, I'd explore that option.
 
For news, talk, and sports stations, car dealer spots are very important.

But for music stations, most revenue comes from retail advertisers.
And that definitely includes car dealers and area-wide dealer associations in larger metros.
 
If I were a high-level executive of a "big four" professional sports team with a radio contract about to expire, I'd explore that option.
Many teams have run their own broadcast operations for years. They either buy time from local stations or do a deal where the station keeps some inventory that is not competitive with team sponsorships. The team hires the talent and engineers and feeds a completed broadcast to the station.

Deals are also sometimes made for pre- and post-game shows as some teams want full control of the content, while others let the stations do the show themselves with certain conditions. Stations with those agreements also have specific conditions set for using the team name in their marketing.
 
Could we see a scenario where more professional sports teams take their local radio broadcasts in-house

It's always better for someone to pay YOU for your content than to pay for it all yourself. It's hard to turn down money.

The radio station pays for the rights, and pays for the expenses of broadcasting the games. They give you cash and spots.

The real bonus is they give you promotional time outside of the play-by-play. It's hard to turn all that down.
 
Lots to comment on in this thread!

The Fed will raise interest rates another 75 points which will cause more pressure. If people don’t have money to spend and business profits are eroding, costs must be cut. Hopefully the midterm elections may help turn the economy around slowly before we go into a full blown recession.

Many of us here likely remember the stagflation days of the Carter years. I believe we're going to return to those days, high interest rates and high inflation.

I doubt the midterms will change anything. Generally speaking economic changes take at least a year, if not two, to see the effects of.


Inflation can only be caused by the government. The expansion of the money supply. The Rising interest rates will just make matters worse IMO. Not even a full tank of oil for my house costed like $400. Things has to be getting bad for WROR to be laying people off

My last tank-up was $1,100. We consume about 6 gallons of oil daily to heat the house (300 y/o farmhouse). I anticipate this heating season is going to cost me at least $5,000.

Of course, the oil companies are gouging people now because they can.

This comment demonstrates a fundamental ignorance of how fuel prices are determined.

As wages have risen, companies pass on those costs. The cup of coffee or burger you buy will cost more because the person who serves you is making more. Workers hope to break even at best.

People demand a "$15/hr 'living' minimum wage" and then are surprised their McDonald's burger costs $10?

The economy is TOO strong and there aren’t enough workers to fill the needed jobs. Unemployment is a 50 YEAR LOW: 3.5%.

This is simply incorrect. First, unemployment is a rigged number, it only measures people actively looking for work. Many, many people in double-income homes found one spouse laid off during the pandemic, who eventually dropped off the UI roles. My wife knows many women in her circle who decided to stay home and raise/homeschool their children.

Local fast-food places along Route 1 all have help-wanted signs, despite that higher 'living wage'. Why? People have made a value judgement they are tired of working their asses off for peanuts and want a better work/life balance.

Wrong. The policies and decisions that have caused these problems go back many decades and multiple presidents. The biggest issue is that Americans are massively addicted to debt.

This is sadly very spot on. Not only Americans in general but also our elected leaders. They have been conducting generational theft from our children and grand-children for the sake of short-term political gain (votes, power, staying in office.) Yet, somehow, I am considered the 'extremist' because I think these people are traitors for betraying the country for their own self-interest.

I’ve heard absolutely nothing out of the Republicans about how they would turn things around.

I've heard nothing from them period.

Many Americans are financially ignorant.

Again, sadly, you are very right. The level of ignorance is stunning, but I suppose we have our public education system to thank for that.

As for Radio, upper management often knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

Not just radio.

ObviousRadio: At least Krazy K00000nah is safe for the moment! He's going NATIONAL, bay-be!
 
>>then are surprised their McDonald's burger costs $10?

Many McDonald's employees are...kiosks. At least those who choose to go inside for either takeout or dine-in often use the kiosks, with employees getting their food. Saves costs as do the self serve checkouts at places like Walmart. There are costs in the technology but not in work hours, sick time or vacations. Still some employees there. For now.
"Want a $15/hr salary? Meet your replacement..." Kiosk

Maybe 70% of their business is drive-thru but some folks like me go inside on occasion. What used to be Ronald McDonald funland for kids now appeals to some older folks craving cheap coffee.

>>, car dealer spots are very important.

Deb Arnie Arnesen in NH referred to SUVs on air as FUVs. Car dealer(s) dropped their spots. 2005
Foster's Daily Democrat:
CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — Arnie Arnesen's radio show is going off the air at the end of the year, and the outspoken, left-of-center host cites her rants against auto advertisers as one reason.
"I have started calling SUVs FU-vs, because it's not acceptable anymore that 90 percent of people who own them don't need them," she said.

Jeff Shapiro WTPL:""Advertisers perceived that it was maybe a little too strong politically for them to be associated with."
 
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Again, sadly, you are very right. The level of ignorance is stunning, but I suppose we have our public education system to thank for that.
Do exclusive prep schools, Catholic parochial schools, or evangelical Christian denominations' schools do any better in educating their students about economics? Public education takes a lot of abuse from the right (especially the Caucasian Christian right), and some of it is justified, but is the criticism really deserved here, given the broad ignorance of economics across racial, ethnic and religious lines across America?
 
Do exclusive prep schools, Catholic parochial schools, or evangelical Christian denominations' schools do any better in educating their students about economics? Public education takes a lot of abuse from the right (especially the Caucasian Christian right), and some of it is justified, but is the criticism really deserved here, given the broad ignorance of economics across racial, ethnic and religious lines across America?
Financial ignorance is not limited to public schools or any race/class. Many people live beyond their means. Some people make $100,000 year but are still in debt. I said it before that the US economy runs on consumer spending. That's a broken system.

Other people lack the intelligence to determine what is essential. Spending $800 on a tattoo is not essential. Financial ignorance is not the fault of public education. It's a societal problem...
 
What is WROR going to do moving forward? Are they going to rest on their laurels?
If, at some point, testing shows that rock-based '70s and '80s hits have finally "aged out" among the advertising-worthy demos, I'd imagine the difficult task of finding enough titles from the polarizing '90s and '00s will begin in earnest. That will be difficult to impossible, so WROR will likely try to put off the inevitable as long as it can. Of course, if '70s chestnuts like "Jet Airliner" and "Rocket Man" continue to test well with people far too young to have heard them when they were hits, WROR doesn't have to do a thing for the rest of its existence.
 
If, at some point, testing shows that rock-based '70s and '80s hits have finally "aged out" among the advertising-worthy demos, I'd imagine the difficult task of finding enough titles from the polarizing '90s and '00s will begin in earnest. That will be difficult to impossible, so WROR will likely try to put off the inevitable as long as it can. Of course, if '70s chestnuts like "Jet Airliner" and "Rocket Man" continue to test well with people far too young to have heard them when they were hits, WROR doesn't have to do a thing for the rest of its existence.
I do think that at least the 70's based music will age out very soon! I was just wondering what Beasley is thinking by firing the PD at their Top 2 performing station?
 
All Access story on the Beasley cuts in four markets (not just Boston):


 
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