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Beatstock canceled at Six Flags

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The Beatstock show at Great Adventure on August 6 has been canceled. But the August 20 show in Long Island is still on!

This sucks since Six Flags was a better location. Much easier to get to from NYC by public transit, and it even let Wired 96.5 from Philly promote it to the Philly market. There were 4 stations promoting the Six Flags show, and only Party 105 was promoting the Long Island show. Six Flags is also only 10 miles away from me, Brookhaven is 130 miles away :-/ But I will still make the drive to Long Island!
 
If it was canceled due to low ticket sales, they should have just canceled the Brookhaven show. Six Flags is a better destination and had more radio stations sponsoring it. I live 15 minutes from Six Flags and have a season pass, and I think many people who live near Six Flags and in the Philly market won't be willing to drive 3-4 more hours to get to Brookhaven.
If the venue was giving Beatstock a hard time, perhaps they should have moved it to the Sun National Bank center in Trenton, which is easily accessible by train from NYC and Philly. I went to a freestyle concert there a few months ago and it was packed! Or better yet, why not just have it right in New York City in the middle of Central Park?

My theories on why it got canceled: Six Flags and Beatstock had a disagreement negotiating ticket prices ($60 is a bit steep for some), a major artist or two bailed out. I don't think it was low ticket sales since NJ is more densely populated than eastern Long Island and there were more stations promoting the concert, plus there would be people who go to Six Flags on August 6 not knowing anything about Beatstock who might stick around for the concert.

At least PartyFM's MegaJam attracted a sizable audience every year, even before Party 101.5, so that audience would attend Beatstock in Long Island.
 
Nick said:
If it was canceled due to low ticket sales, they should have just canceled the Brookhaven show. Six Flags is a better destination and had more radio stations sponsoring it. I live 15 minutes from Six Flags and have a season pass, and I think many people who live near Six Flags and in the Philly market won't be willing to drive 3-4 more hours to get to Brookhaven.
If the venue was giving Beatstock a hard time, perhaps they should have moved it to the Sun National Bank center in Trenton, which is easily accessible by train from NYC and Philly. I went to a freestyle concert there a few months ago and it was packed! Or better yet, why not just have it right in New York City in the middle of Central Park?

My theories on why it got canceled: Six Flags and Beatstock had a disagreement negotiating ticket prices ($60 is a bit steep for some), a major artist or two bailed out. I don't think it was low ticket sales since NJ is more densely populated than eastern Long Island and there were more stations promoting the concert, plus there would be people who go to Six Flags on August 6 not knowing anything about Beatstock who might stick around for the concert.

At least PartyFM's MegaJam attracted a sizable audience every year, even before Party 101.5, so that audience would attend Beatstock in Long Island.
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Beatstock is an outdoor event. It wont work inside. They shouldnt cancel the show in Brookhaven. I wish I could make that one.
 
Dancerev889 said:
Nick said:
If it was canceled due to low ticket sales, they should have just canceled the Brookhaven show. Six Flags is a better destination and had more radio stations sponsoring it. I live 15 minutes from Six Flags and have a season pass, and I think many people who live near Six Flags and in the Philly market won't be willing to drive 3-4 more hours to get to Brookhaven.
If the venue was giving Beatstock a hard time, perhaps they should have moved it to the Sun National Bank center in Trenton, which is easily accessible by train from NYC and Philly. I went to a freestyle concert there a few months ago and it was packed! Or better yet, why not just have it right in New York City in the middle of Central Park?

My theories on why it got canceled: Six Flags and Beatstock had a disagreement negotiating ticket prices ($60 is a bit steep for some), a major artist or two bailed out. I don't think it was low ticket sales since NJ is more densely populated than eastern Long Island and there were more stations promoting the concert, plus there would be people who go to Six Flags on August 6 not knowing anything about Beatstock who might stick around for the concert.

At least PartyFM's MegaJam attracted a sizable audience every year, even before Party 101.5, so that audience would attend Beatstock in Long Island.
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Beatstock is an outdoor event. It wont work inside. They shouldnt cancel the show in Brookhaven. I wish I could make that one.
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Well, you know what I got planned to help out anyone wanting to go to LI.
 
I'm so pissed at this, I'm going to throw up a "thought" here. All the "names" aren't being noted here..... (And to a certain individual here, DO NOT REPLY WITH NAMES. I don't trust you. Just keep the names in your mind if you know them.) For the record, I do not work with any of the particulars involved with this.

YES, there were very low ticket sales for Six Flags Great Adventure to which part of that had to do with not being able to "tailgate". But let's get to the gist of it.

A certain radio station owned by a major media conglomerate pulled out of "Beatstock", which was something they had sponsored for about 14 years. Luckily the promoter of the show, Vito Bruno, had the smarts to copyright the "Beatstock" brand as his own, which is why he was able to continue with the show. However that media conglomerate had a concert "arm" (even though it is now operated independently) that virtually "owns" certain venues in the region. Which is why Beatstock was blocked from going to those locations to which they had done shows in the past.

Because of Vito's clout in the music industry, he was able to get many artists involved in this. However that media conglomerate, with their sheer force of owning most of the major CHR stations in the country, threatened some of the artists in terms of not giving them airplay had they performed in this concert (so I was told by one).

On top of that, instead of Beatstock at the traditional venues in NJ and NY, it was replaced by another dance music event which does NOT tie in with the radio station that is being used as a sponsor. BUT, on the day of the Six Flags Beat Stock, ANOTHER EVENT being run by the media conglomerate is being held on the SAME DAY in Atlantic City that even though it was disguised as a dance music event, freestyle artists were placed on the bill....some of whom would have been in Beatstock as in the past.

Brookhaven is happening because there is a HUGE backing from another dance/rhythmic station run by another company. Brookhaven has a parking lot to which tailgaters can do their pre-concert happenings. Add TO the fact that in the past, that radio station had held annual events under a different name that was dance music oriented and took on the Beatstock brand. That's why Brookhaven is happening. And from what I know, ticket sales to that venue are going well.

I will always support Vito Bruno and its unfortunate that the dirty politics and games of a media "goliath" that played out here killed off one of the venues.

And that's all I am going to say. I will not be entertaining questions on this......
 
The irony of this is that this will probably be the best Beatstock ever with the biggest line up of dance artists. I know of a few freestyle artists who were never allowed to be at the event because they had the "gull" to asked to be paid for their performance and that's no fantasy,girl.
 
Morpheux said:
The irony of this is that this will probably be the best Beatstock ever with the biggest line up of dance artists. I know of a few freestyle artists who were never allowed to be at the event because they had the "gull" to asked to be paid for their performance and that's no fantasy,girl.
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That I do know. I won't say names there either but I know exactly who you are talking about Morpheux :(
 
Well,Freestyle fans are pretty ticked off that the Long Island Beatstock show has dropped all but two of the freestyle acts.Pretty lousy considering it's only five days away. Most of the fans that are going for the Freestyle probably won't know until the show. Bad business practice.
 
Morpheux said:
Well,Freestyle fans are pretty ticked off that the Long Island Beatstock show has dropped all but two of the freestyle acts.Pretty lousy considering it's only five days away. Most of the fans that are going for the Freestyle probably won't know until the show. Bad business practice.
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And to that...a lot of things being talked are RUMORS. Until we get the entire facts, let's just see what plays out of this.
 
As I suspected,all the freestyle acts have been removed. Not only freestyle but other dance acts as well.No official line up has been posted or will be posted. **Grimy**.

If only there was a group or coalition that would look out and stand up for all dance artists. ;)


Check out the Beatstock page where concert goers who dished out hundreds of dollars to see freestyle acts are letting their frustration be heard https://www.facebook.com/Beatstock?ref=ts&sk=wall
 
I enjoyed Beatstock this year. From what I read on their facebook page the day before the concert it seemed like there would be a riot, but the crowd was happy. All of the performances were great. The venue was good too, but its location was just out of the way, especially for New Yorkers who rely on public transit. Looking forward to another Beatstock next year, hopefully at PNC or Six Flags.

I've been to every Beatstock since 2003 and I wouldn't let a 3 hour drive keep me away from this one. In fact I even enjoyed the drive back because there was tropo on the radio :)
 
^ As long as you enjoyed yourself Nick,that's all that counts. My take is that it does not help dance artists to be pulled at the last minute and not be told personally of that decision. The Beatstock page was pulled down on Sunday because they could not keep up with deleting the posts calling for a refund.Just stating the facts.

I once drove 8 hrs to see this concert and it was one of the bests that I've ever been to.Hopefully,next year if there is another Beatstock it will be better organized. From what I have been told and what I see on this clip below there were not that big of a crowd.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIBtuwDu9BM
 
Its ashame this happened. I have worked with Vito for several years now and I know this is killing him. A lot dirty politics involved. I hope Vito can get this rolling for next year.
 
I go to Beatstock every year, had planned on going to Six Flags, as it was happening before I had to head back to school in Charlotte... but for years we've heard rumors and threats that Vito was going to leave the unmentioned station and company several times, even basically forcing the station/company to include other stations to assist in promoting the event and others he does. I don't doubt plenty of politics, but we got great venues and choice dates for the show because of the station affiliations I'm sure. May be they pushed too hard and when an alternative was made available, they chose to take it. Just to show, hey, this is what we bring to the table. It obviously proves, Beatstock has been a success because of the promotional arm and venues it brings to the table. That said, it pisses me off that great traditions were sacrificed at the expense of egos and corporate BS on both sides. Let's hope the two sides come back to the table and we get our two great shows at two great venues back next year!
 
Dancerev889 said:
Its ashame this happened. I have worked with Vito for several years now and I know this is killing him. A lot dirty politics involved. I hope Vito can get this rolling for next year.
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I hope Vito can get this rolling again too.

I was there and if anything, the concert took on a whole different vibe as you've had a bunch of "tweens" with their mothers there, waiting on the meet and greet line for Big Time Rush and the Iconic Boyz. It may not have been packed, but for everyone that was there they enjoyed themselves. The artists were certainly pouring their hearts and energy out on stage.

Having said that, a lot of fault can go to everyone.....obviously the corporate parent of the long time radio sponsor is at the main blame. But on FB I saw the apathy coming from the fans...a lot of hurtful and angry statements were said and the negativity certainly didn't help (translation: lack of ticket sales that killed NJ). Obviously I want to see that corporate parent come back, or perhaps another major corporation get involved. And once that happens, then Long Island can go back to the other station whereas they held their yearly event with decent crowds and our 2 Beatstock concerts can be back. But at the same time, our community should be more supportive and perhaps should have "read between the lines" on WHY the change of venues occurred, instead of acting out in anger.

Just my opinion.
 
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