Is it in the contract that 700 must carry the football games after baseball season ends? Does not make much sense to me why both 700 and 1530 carry the games. Seems like a duplication and wasted airwaves to me. And I don't care if the Bengals are winning or losing, just do not see the need for the games to be on 2 powerful AM stations in the same city.
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Cornelius van der Beek
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Three stations is probably the only way C.C. can get anyone to advertise. Horrible team with a lousy broadcast. Listen to 980 out of Dayton with a Cleveland game and then compare it to Brad/Lap/Cutman. Hearing those two screaming during the game and then Lap's moribund tour of the locker room followed by the Cut Man taking calls is painful at best. The Bengals would do well to emulate the team that calls OSU games. I've never heard Paul Kiels shrieking as well as leaving listeners wondering what's happening on the field instead of grunting "uh oh" like Lap over Brad's screaming call of a play.
Bengals got used to having an AM & FM station when the games were on B-105 and their AM. That's what started the combo. The fact that the AM back then needed the FM to get any decent coverage is lost on the Bengals. As far as having the game on both 50k's, if it can hurt WLW's sports image to not have whatever the game is, they'll put it on 'LW, too.
Paul Keels is one of the best play-by-play guys out there. Brad and Lap are painful. The radio stations had to gag down Brad when they were related to Channel 12. Why they keep him now is beyond me.
Paul Keels is one of the best play-by-play guys out there. Brad and Lap are painful. The radio stations had to gag down Brad when they were related to Channel 12. Why they keep him now is beyond me.
Being a former Bengals player who is in the good graces of management, Dave Lapham will probably stay on the radio broadcast team as long as he wants to. I do dread those young people interested in a radio career who listen to those broadcasts and think that's how two announcers are supposed to sound like.
I am a Steeler fan, and thus have the fortune of hearing Bill Hilgrove every week. There's a reason why national networks such as ESPN radio, etc. use his calls even when something positive is happening for the other team. He's probably the most neutral homer in the NFL, if that makes sense. I could hear him call a peewee football game.
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Cornelius van der Beek
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Glad to see I'm not alone regarding the Bengals broadcast team. Do they get no coaching at all? Interesting to see the Cincinnati Kid comment about Lap having a job as long as he wants it. It's interesting to hear him call Big 12 games on Fox Sports Net, a completely different guy who offers somewhat cogent thoughts after the play by play guy is done with the play call. Obviously he can take direction if necessary.
I thought they worked for Clear Channel considering Brad but now it makes sense, considering the team the Browns put on the field.
I thought they worked for Clear Channel considering Brad but now it makes sense, considering the team the Browns put on the field.
Lap has nothing to work with and makes the best of it.
"There's a player hurt on the field. He's in a 9-point stance"
"A loose groin is a happy groin"
And the way he skewers Ed Hochuli for being so self-absorbed is hilarious.
When the Bengals are playing, he has nothing positive to talk about. He has to make lemonade out of lemons. Vin Scully would be hard-pressed to make those games entertaining.
"There's a player hurt on the field. He's in a 9-point stance"
"A loose groin is a happy groin"
And the way he skewers Ed Hochuli for being so self-absorbed is hilarious.
When the Bengals are playing, he has nothing positive to talk about. He has to make lemonade out of lemons. Vin Scully would be hard-pressed to make those games entertaining.
Radio play-by-play for both Bengals and Reds has become almost unlistenable due to the rampant sponsorship of everything they say. "I'm going to cough now--this cough brought to you by Vicks...then I'll inhale and we'll have another sponsor for that...." At least TV has not gotten that bad yet, so I'll forego listening at all if it's not on TV... Not a reflection on the announcers, but the salespeople drive me away...
Cornelius van der Beek said:
One reason for his work on Big 12 games may be that Lapham probably has no real rooting interest in the teams who are playing. When he works on the Bengals' broadcast, he breaks one of the cardinal rules....."Don't over-ride or otherwise cut off your fellow broadcaster". Where is the booth's sound engineer on these matters? He could certainly pot Lapham down during play-by-play calls (maybe he has been instructed not to do that). Those interested in a sports announcing career should never consider what is heard on Bengals games as they way it is supposed to sound.
I'm a Bengals fan and while I now live in Houston and am no longer able to hear the radio broadcast, I don't miss it. Johansen sounds like he's asleep 85 percent of the time and Lapham is a pretty bad homer. I agree that the Lapham on FSN's Big 12 broadcasts is the one I'd love to hear doing Bengals radio.
I wish Paul Keels would do Bengals games again. Since Phil Samp retired, Keels was by far the best PBP voice they had (wasn't a Ken Broo fan).
Also agreed on Bill Hillgrove. I also am a huge fan of the Donovan-Dieken team on Browns games.
I wish Paul Keels would do Bengals games again. Since Phil Samp retired, Keels was by far the best PBP voice they had (wasn't a Ken Broo fan).
Also agreed on Bill Hillgrove. I also am a huge fan of the Donovan-Dieken team on Browns games.
Also, WLW carries the "Bengalsline" talk show every Monday night, which is basically at some restaurant in the Cincinnati area, with Paul Daugherty, Lapham, and a random Bengals player hosting. For example, last week, kicker Shayne Graham co-hosted.
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It's all about the revenue... it's just too bad the team isn't a contender. Who cares who's calling the games? A trained monkey could call the games and it wouldn't matter. People would still complain, and Bengals fans would still tune in to see how badly the boys are getting drubbed. In the end, Clear Channel would still have exclusive rights. My guess is that right now, there's a lot of hand-wringing in the boardroom about how badly they got screwed on the contract, and not who the commentators are.
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