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Bernie Ward Indicted

Re: Bernie Ward Indicted ....Paula Poundstone case

Remember when comedian Paula Poundstone got in legal trouble for "pleasuring" herself in front of her two adopted kids?? At the time Mr. Ward said he thought it was a good idea for parents to engage in such activity in front of their kids as a method of "sex education." Several callers suggested Mr. Ward was wrong, but he stuck to his opinion.

His producer once did an hour with Mr. Ward about the empowering nature of the "P" word (slang term for a part of the female anatomy).

This guy is a real wack job and the details of the case will confirm it.
 
Re: Bernie Ward Indicted ....Paula Poundstone case

mred said:
Remember when comedian Paula Poundstone got in legal trouble for "pleasuring" herself in front of her two adopted kids?? At the time Mr. Ward said he thought it was a good idea for parents to engage in such activity in front of their kids as a method of "sex education." Several callers suggested Mr. Ward was wrong, but he stuck to his opinion.

His producer once did an hour with Mr. Ward about the empowering nature of the "P" word (slang term for a part of the female anatomy).

This guy is a real wack job and the details of the case will confirm it.
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I recall the Paula Poundstone incident but I was not privileged (if that is the correct word) to hear Mr. Ward's commentary. If he did in fact make such pronouncements then his judgment is certainly a bit foggy and he might well have committed the acts for which the indictment was rendered. But even given all of that under our constitutional legal system every defendant is to presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law by a jury of his peers. If he has an unnatural interest in kiddie porn or even just depictions of naked children it does not lead to the conclusion that he would commit any improper acts.

To put it real life terms a lot of "normal" heterosexual men go to topless bars but only an extremely tiny percentage of them go on to commit rape or other sexual crimes.Many people here are extrapolating the known facts to justify some sort of public hanging (figuratively at least).
 
In Europe, you might find parents giving children material on sex, (In fact the book "Show Me!" was published by the Lutheran Church of Germany if I'm not mistaken.) or they might take them to a brothel. But having the parents engage in sexual activity and have the children watch is not done even in Denmark, France or Belgium, etc. for "sex education."

It's like people who have fake "bomb" alarm clocks. Ward's judgement is whacked, and I bet a member of his family turned him in.

I remember how the KGOers defended Duane Garret, even when numerous people came forward saying he never paid them for sports collectibles he sold on consignment.
 
mred said:
In Europe, you might find parents giving children material on sex, (In fact the book "Show Me!" was published by the Lutheran Church of Germany if I'm not mistaken.) or they might take them to a brothel. But having the parents engage in sexual activity and have the children watch is not done even in Denmark, France or Belgium, etc. for "sex education."

It's like people who have fake "bomb" alarm clocks. Ward's judgement is whacked, and I bet a member of his family turned him in.

I remember how the KGOers defended Duane Garret, even when numerous people came forward saying he never paid them for sports collectibles he sold on consignment.
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Then we can agree that his judgment is whacked, as was Ms. Poundstone's. I remember growing up in a suburb near Dayton Ohio and one family who practiced nudism in their home in front of their children. Everyone in our neigborhood thought it was wicked (they were new arrivals of what was termed the hippie culture). I myself just thought it to be curious. I think that over shielding children from sexual matters and nudism is bad but then so is allowing them to view overt sexual behavior. Having curiosity about naked people of any age is not in itself evil. The problem is that with all of the pedophiles that make the headlines people are overacting on the viewing of naked children. But the prurient use of such images and making photos or videos of children in sexual situations certainly goes far beyond what the most libertarian of us should tolerate. So if Bernie Ward or Paula Poundstone have crossed those lines they deserve whatever befalls them as a punishment.
 
hope it aint true but an idictment is pretty tough plea bargain coming loved his show for entertainment not views oh well when its time to pay your dues it gets you

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Re: Bernie Ward Indicted ....Paula Poundstone case

mred said:
Remember when comedian Paula Poundstone got in legal trouble for "pleasuring" herself in front of her two adopted kids?? At the time Mr. Ward said he thought it was a good idea for parents to engage in such activity in front of their kids as a method of "sex education." Several callers suggested Mr. Ward was wrong, but he stuck to his opinion.

His producer once did an hour with Mr. Ward about the empowering nature of the "P" word (slang term for a part of the female anatomy).

This guy is a real wack job and the details of the case will confirm it.
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mred, you should tip off the news media if you say is true. I'm sure Fox News and the local news stations would run with it if they can get the tapes of Bernie Ward actually saying that. I'm sure you recorded it, you seem like a big fan of his, since you know everything about him.
 
Ward's 'defense' that he was just downloading 'kiddy porn' for research purposes, and intended to use it against child pornographers, worked for the Who's Pete Townshend a few years ago.
As far as Ward is concerned, this was one of only two ways a fat pig like him could satisfy his urges. The other would have required a blind sex partner.
 
Newname said:
As far as Ward is concerned, this was one of only two ways a fat pig like him could satisfy his urges. The other would have required a blind sex partner.
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Apparently someone likes him. He's managed to produce 3 children. His wife is a physician, so obviously she's not blind, either. How about sticking to broadcasting rather than ad hominem attacks?
 
Newname,, can you explain what his weight has to do with the allegations? Your so far off,, Kenny in Concord
 
As a father myself, the thought of downloading that crap- even for research- is not even comprehensible. However, Bernie is known for digging pretty deep into his stories (remember, he was the whistleblower for the expensive government toilet seats, hammers, etc. back in the '80s) so it wouldn't be a stretch to imagine his side of the story to be true. Pretty awful judgement on his part at the very least, if indeed it was just for research. No matter what, he should have known better than to cross that line. Ultimately, he is probably guilty of poor judgement as opposed to being a kiddie porn fan, but I guess we'll wait to see what the actual indictment says.

As for KGO's handling of this, I think they are doing what they need to do. You can't really have him on the air as it would be a monumental distraction. The reporting of this on the KGO news has been fair, but the one thing I guess I'm a bit surprised about is that none of the other talk show hosts are touching this at all (if they have, I haven't heard anything and I listen all the time). His fill-in hosts are still referring to it as the 'Bernie Ward Show', so they're not trying to bury him too deep (so far).

I suspect we'll be right back here after the indictment is unsealed. See you all then...
 
People with an interest in this case can go to the Michael Savage website and download the Oakdale police report. It has a transcript of the online chat. Even for the kinky among us it is unnerving to read.
 
??? Could you imagine if you take out the name Bernie and insert "Rush", just how big this story would be. This is really a resume enhancement for Bernie. The Left needs every voice to defeat the NEO cons.... :eek:
 
True, though note that Ward, though once nationally syndicated, is not on the same level as Rush. A host in
one market as opposed to someone with 600 affiliates or so. What makes more news, "Barry Bonds tests
positive for steroids" or "some guy for the Rancho Cuckamonga Quakes tests positive for steroids"? :)
(OK, bit of an exaggeration there! Make it "rookie for Angels that few have heard of tests positive"...)
 
The FBI has on air tapes of him saying it was ok for Paula Poundstone to "pleasure" herself in front of her adopted children and that parents should engage in this practice.

Also, he frequently said on the air he told his children never to talk to police especially Feds, because lying to Feds is how Martha Stewart got into trouble.

Remember the report he did on Towne School in SF and claims (unproven) of child on child sexual activity? or on abuse in the Catholic Church?
 
"The FBI has on air tapes of him saying it was ok for Paula Poundstone to "pleasure" herself in front of her adopted children and that parents should engage in this practice. Also, he frequently said on the air he told his children never to talk to police especially Feds, because lying to Feds is how Martha Stewart got into trouble. Remember the report he did on Towne School in SF and claims (unproven) of child on child sexual activity? or on abuse in the Catholic Church?"

You really seemed obsessed with Bernie and KGO, Mred. If Bernie actually said it was OK for parents to pleasure themselves in front of their children, I would find it disturbing, but I think I'd like some corroboration before I believe that was exactly what he said, and how he meant it. What would the FBI do with tapes of that? Use them in court as some type of proof that he's pro-kiddie porn? Even if he said it, it's protected free speech.

As for what he said about talking to the Feds - lying to the Feds IS what got Martha Stewart in trouble - that's a fact.

I don't remember when the Town School story took place, but what would Bernie be guilty of in this case? If you'll remember, he was a reporter for KGO radio news, and reporting on assigned stories was his job. As for underage boys having sex with other boys at the Town School, unproven or not, I would be surprised if it DIDN'T happen from time to time. As for the Catholic Church sex scandals, are all the hundreds of reporters who filed reports about this huge story guilty of something, Mred, or just Bernie Ward?

Again, I'm not particularly a Bernie Ward fan, I don't know if he's guilty or not, and some of the more recent revelations (sending pics to the dominatrix) certainly do not make him look good. But I think that implying he's guilty based on these few controversial statements he made on-air, or the stories he has reported - is misleading and amounts to guilt by innuendo.
 
mred said:
The FBI has on air tapes of him saying it was ok for Paula Poundstone to "pleasure" herself in front of her adopted children and that parents should engage in this practice.
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I'm not so sure I believe this. Lots of people listen to KGO, especially reporters and nosy media gossips. Had he said such a thing it would have made local headlines. The only times I have seen any reference to this alleged situation has been on the ba.broadcast newsgroup and here. Sounds like a plant to me.
 
All you have to do is get on Michael Savage's web site and see and read the police report conversations. The filthy leftist media in this town is just overlooking the situation obviously. If it were Rush, Hannity, or any other consevative host, it would be discussed, analyzed, regurgitated to the max, that everything Paris Hilton does 30 seconds from now.... would be overlooked.
This guy looked like a typical fat slob pervert that was a so called priest just to cover up his sickness...which is extreme liberalism.
 
What bothers me about this case is, if I'm doing my role playing thing on AOL as "SexFairy" and someone from another jurisdiction sends me a kiddie-porn photo, is my first instinct to suddenly take the moral high road and call the local fuzz, wait for them to arrive, expose my role-playing antics to them and become their evidence-gathering tool? Or do I simply destroy the photo, order my "slave" not to send any more kiddie porn and go on with my role playing, pretending like it never happened? Also, as "Vincentlio" was ostensibly sending these photos from outside the city limits of Oakdale, why did the local constabulary get involved to the extent they did instead of referring her to the FBI's cyber-crime unit to begin with?
 
Newsperson responds:

I read the link to the ABC 7 news story with the transcript and it did sound very bad for Bernie. In fact the ABC 7 reporter even stated that. I read the transcript again and after thinking aobut this is what I concluded:

Both of these people are actors and they were playing a role other than themselves. Bernie sounded so "put on" and also excited that he found someone to engage in this pretend dialalog.

The woman did not sound like much of a dominatrix. In fact if Bernie wanted to go on line with a dominatrix he should have connected with a woman in the City. All the woman did was call him a slave a few times. She is not for real and not even a good actress.

What I do not understand is the pictures and how they fit in the big picture. If fact the pictures do not even match the pretend dialalog of "a slave and a dominatrix". There are a lot of the facts of this story that we have not heard.

The defense will really have to work hard to keep the jury from jumping to conclusions. If Bernie kept all of his notes and part of a manuscript from his unwritten book that would be helpful. We would all like to know now what his purpose was in sending thoses pictures, however at this point there is not enough information to predict the outcome of the trial.

Any thoughts on the above? Will Bernie become employed in broadcasting or some other field?

Newsperson
 
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