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BEST PROCESSED ***AM*** MUSIC STATIONS IN DFW

KMKI stinks with HD, it makes no sense to run it when your audience is kids listening on cheap radios or with mom in the minivan. It's hard to believe they're the flagship station for Radio Disney and sound that lousy.

KGVL needs more "punch" to get the most out of that little 1K.

Jay Walker said:
In the 70's when I went from Plate modulation to PDM I was astounded by the quality as well as the incredible loudness we were able to achieve with the Continental Power Rock on KQAM in Wichita. Part of the loudness of course was the ability to use asymmetrical modulation.
Jay Walker

Speaking of KQAM Here's some unscoped airchecks of it from 1987. I had a friend who worked for the station in 1988 and I remember that Continental power rock right in the hallway.

Part 1: http://www.divshare.com/download/17645948-c17
Part 2: http://www.divshare.com/download/17645999-671
 
Jay Walker said:
When I worked at WLS there was an interesting store room on the fifth floor that I would have loved to clean out. It contained pretty much every processor ever used on WLS. Gates Sta-Levels, the legendary General Electric BA7A limiter (used on KLIF in it's heyday I've been told) RCA BA-6A limiter, Audimax/Volumax, Inovonics MAP II, CRL, AM Optimods, in other words the "who's who" of AM processing from tube to microprocessor.

(as a side note one of my favorites in my little collection is the Dorrough 210 Stereo AM Limiter used on KTNQ back in the Top 40 days.)

WCFL and WLS really set the standard for AM processing in Chicago during the 70's. It may sound blasphemous to some but I never was that impressed with the "east coast" AM sound in the late 60's and 70's. WABC always seemed to me to be just a little too "tin can" sounding because of the way the plate reverb rang out (my flame suit is on so fire away)

The best of the best in the west was KFRC and pretty much any of the RKO top-40 stations. RKO Audio Director Bob Kanner at KHJ/KRTH and his variations of the "Kanner box" created legendary sound.

Here's a link to pictures of some of the RKO processor racks from back in the day: http://www.w3am.com/audiocha.html

I listened to WLS as a teen in the mid-late 60s in S.E. Kentucky and it was the best-sounding and best overall radio station I ever heard at the time. I worked at KFRC in the early 70s and our on-air sound was just amazing---except for the pumping & sucking when we had to play Roberta Flack's "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face"... :)
 
My old spring reverb mated to the CBS volumax and audimax on my 250 watt daytimer rocked.
I used a Altec 1567a mixer as a mic preamp for my RCA 77dx.

Just kidding.
 
unclepudd said:
Some long time listeners might remember KRLD 1080 in the 70's when they programmed morning/afternoon news blocks and "The Gentle Sound" of music mid-days. They utilized eleven different processors/equalizers,etc. to get the sound. Only problem was the CE who set it up kept no notes and KRLD later discovered if any one of the pieces of equipment was removed the sound was lost. It gave both voice and music a presence I have not heard since which, at the time, was as good or better than a lot of FM's.

Music sounded great on 1080 through "The Gentle Sound", the year or so they were Country in the late 70's (They were only playing music at night & on weekends by that point.) & the format that followed. It was similar to "Music of Your Life."
 
Others have mentioned KFXR. How does a station make music sound that bad ? ;D 1190 used to be one of the best sounding frequencies in DFW.
 
Another from the past that always sounded great is the old 1150AM side of KVIL.
 
dfaulkner said:
Another from the past that always sounded great is the old 1150AM side of KVIL.

I do remember working on KVIL AM back in the late 70's/early 80's. The processing was a Urei LA-4 into a Fairchild reverb then over the STL to the original 6 tower site off LBJ and 35 in Northwest Dallas. At the tower was one of those Inovonics 8 band compressor/limiters. I visited the site once with XRey who showed it to me. The processor was just setting on a table - no rack mount or anything....really kind of a shoddy set up, but it sounded great on the air. That AM was 1000 watts directional almost straight east. Ron used to laugh that it couldn't be hear a mile to the west but could be heard in downtown Tyler. That was almost true - it did have a very directional pattern.

When the FCC required them to split cast the AM from the FM, Dan Bell, Paul Davis, Marc Avery and I were hired to do that. We simulcasted morning and afternoons and split the midday and all weekends. Originally at the Park Cities studios, the AM control room was thrown together in what was a break room...very small and unlike the FM, a sit down setup. We played 45's exclusively and usually they were the old records that had been in the FM studio but were replaced with clean copies. Lots of "cue burn" (anybody remember - cue burn...?).

When we moved to Capitol Bank over Memorial Day weekend 1979, the AM studio was an exact copy of the FM studio. The thinking was if they both were the same, jocks who had to work both AM and FM shifts wouldn't have to adjust to being comfortable on either. It was probably the best equipped 1000 watt directional daytime only AM in the country. State of the art Ward Beck slide fader console, 6 ITC cart decks, 2 Technics turntables and 2 Neuman thousand dollar mic's! We even had AM only studio listener lines. Sadly, we were still playing those old 45's out of old teletype cardboard boxes! Still there was a charm to it all.

It was odd working on the AM because you rarely met anyone who heard the station. It did have listeners, a few times hitting a 1.5 to 2.0 in the ARB! Even at the station, they monitored the FM in the halls. I remember one day Ron had the engineers put a switch in so that the AM could be heard on the stations "house monitor" heard throughout the building. Some days the FM would be heard, some days the AM. It was cool to finally walk out of the studio and know at least 'someone' heard that last break!

When we did contests, we would do the same call out of a number or whatever as the FM. People's choice cash calls were similarly announced, but as "...we just made a call here at KVIL..." as opposed to "...I just made a call...".

Truthfully, all of us who worked on AM also usually did a shift or two on the FM, often on the weekends. We all dreamed of a fulltime FM gig but with the likes of Bill Gardner, Ken Barnett, Larry Dixon and Cat Simon, Mike Donahue and a few others hanging around, those chances weren't too great. I did eventually make it to late nights following Cat from 11pm-2am on the FM.

The night jock was responsible for singing off the AM at sunset. More than a few times the jock would forget and I would drive in aroudn 9:30pm and hear the AM still on. At night that AM directional probably blared all the way to Louisianna!
 
Thanks for all the details. As a listener, it sounded great. Was highly directional. Heading east on I-30 it was good to about Sulphur Springs. North it was almost gone by Plano, maybe Allen. South by around Cedar Hill. Not exaclty sure how far west it went. But, in Arlington it sounded like I was listening to something hundreds or thousands of miles away. I recall Ron joking on the air once that the AM had six towers, one for the signal to come out of, the other five to keep it from going anywhere. ;D
 
Do I remember correctly that, at one point, KVIL AM was in stereo? I recall hearing it on a friend's Cadillac radio, and I was amazed that I wasn't listening to FM.
 
Yes. It was one of the Stereo AMs in DFW in the mid 80's. Steve Eberhart may know how long it was Stereo.
 
dfaulkner said:
Yes. It was one of the Stereo AMs in DFW in the mid 80's. Steve Eberhart may know how long it was Stereo.

That was after I left. If I recall correctly, they only put the equipment in necessary to make the "stereo" pilot light come on - it wasn't actually stereo - only a mono feed being sent out stereo - That may or may not be true but it is what I was told at the time.
 
Steve Eberhart said:
That was after I left. If I recall correctly, they only put the equipment in necessary to make the "stereo" pilot light come on - it wasn't actually stereo - only a mono feed being sent out stereo - That may or may not be true but it is what I was told at the time.

My recollection is it sounded surprisingly good for AM. I also recall that the FM broadcast in Dolby Stereo for a while. If you had a way to decode it, it did improve the signal to noise level. You have to give KVIL a lot of credit for being an innovator.
 
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