> > > > Give me a break with that list of cookie-cutters.
> > > The best ever in SF? KSFO in the '60s, KSAN in the '70s
> > and
> > > KGO since. These stations made a connection with a huge
> > > segment of passionate radio listeners. The stations
> > > locked-in on the lifestyles of that core and they knew
> how
> >
> > > to entertain and inform. They were 24/7 stations with
> much
> >
> > > more than a wacky morning show and 10-in-a-row
> > > commercial-free music sets all other times. They wee not
>
> > > judged by how good their "street promotion" was. There
> was
> >
> > > more "entertainment" in one day on KSFO or KSAN than on
> > x100
> > > or Z957???? in a month. (Jeeez, you were not serious
> about
> >
> > > Z957, were you?).
> > > KSFO, KSAN and today's KGO had/have brilliant management
>
> > > with a willingness to support out-of-the-box thinking
> and
> > a
> > > general courage to lead, not follow.
> > > Today's owners/managers are almost all gutless
> bookkeepers
> >
> > > who take their programming cues from distant,
> > unaccountable
> > > consultants. SF is not cutting-edge and hasn't been for
> > > decades.
> >
> > Though I totally agree regarding KSAN, KSFO in the 60s,
> and
> > KGO then and now, I think DJMan probably should have
> > specified Top 40 or CHR. I don't think he was thinking of
>
> > Talk radio, MOR, or "alternative" FM. So in his area, I'd
>
> > have to nominate KFRC in the mid 60s thru the early 80s.
> > Though they were technically a "cookie cutter" Bill Drake
> > consulted Boss Radio station, they improved on the format
> -
> > MUCH better than flagship KHJ in Los Angeles. They had
> some
> > great personalities - Dr. Don Rose, Bobby Ocean,
> > etc...especially after they dumped Drake in the late 70s.
> In
> > the early 80s, they had morphed into a hybrid Top
> > 40/Soul/Funk format (or whatever you would call it) that
> was
> > ahead of its time, and unfortunately - not available on
> FM.
> > The early "all hit" KMEL (pre-Hip Hop, but
> post-"Camel")was
> > very similar, and hired some people away from KFRC - Like
> > Mark McKay.
> >
> Agree that KFRC deserves some props for what they did to
> improve the cookie-cutter. They were exceptional enduring
> and endearing.
>
> T
>
Before this gets too far along, I want to also add The first years of KKSF under Steve Feinstein. That was what programming was all about. It was new (for its time) and he had made a point when hiring air talent that they needed to understand before every cracking the mic, that the music was the star of the station, not the jock.
So I have nominated five stations that were/are better than Z957: KSFO, KSAN, KFRC, KGO and KKSF. If that's all I could listen to on my radio in SF, I would be a happy camper.
I'll go back under my rock now.
T