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Best signal in Cincinnati
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Night time, yes. Day time, KFYR 550 Bismarck, North Dakota goes farther with only 5KW. I recall going under an overpass in Fargo & it didn't fade at 190 miles! Try that with WLW. But the real blowtorch is Watrous, Saskatchewan's CBK 540. With 50KW non directional, it's audible 450 miles away during the day near Mt Rushmore--I didn't get to see how much further it went. Granted, it's not a US station, but it cover a huge number of US square miles in the day time.radioman148 said:
BobOnTheJob said:
Another good one is 570 WNAX Yanton, SD. I've picked them up at great distances in all directions during the daytime.
I think WKRC 550-AM is probably not thought of as a powerful station in connection with some of the others in Cincinnati. However, during the day, it really seems to get out well. I remember being in south-central Kentucky in the early 1960's and with a regular plug-in table model AM radio, I listened to the University of Cincinnati football and basketball games on WKRC. In doing that, it was important to get away from florescent lighting and other interference such as the the whine put out by TV sets. Back then, WKRC had its towers on top of the Hotel Alms in the Walnut Hills section of the city.
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Man, I can't even get DJO after sunset in Batavia! How did you pick it up in Youngstown?
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I can get them on my DX-398 and in my '08 Accord every night. Depending on conditions some nights they dominate 1160 and others they are mixing with another 1160 (I assume it's 1160 in Chicago)
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I can get them on my DX-398 and in my '08 Accord every night. Depending on conditions some nights they dominate 1160 and others they are mixing with another 1160 (I assume it's 1160 in Chicago)
550 WKRC is highly-limited to the west/northwest during the day [due to St. Louis’ 550 and Chicago’s 560. WKRC actually GAINS SIGNAL STRENGTH in the n/w direction [despite their drop to 1kw] AT NIGHT. The meter on my Icom IC-R71A receiver GAINS THREE S-UNITS at 550’s nighttime power/pattern change in Connersville, IN... In other directions, it likely ranks a firm second place position [daytime] and easily provides the second-best coverage [overall] of the market... In fact [considering the severe groundwave/skywave conflict that hinders 1530 in the Butler/Warren County “northern metro” – WLW and WKRC are the ONLY TWO full-market coverage stations after sunset. The market has long-outgrown quality coverage from 1360. I’ll concur that 550 KFYR—Fargo, ND and 570—KNAX Yankton, SD are 5kw “AM aberrations”—considering their AWESOME daytime groundwave coverage – better than many 50kw sticks can crank-out in most other locations [both have better signals than does 50kw 750 WSB—Atlanta]! 1030 KTWO—Casper, WY is another that hikes many miles during the day. Sadly, Indianapolis has no full-market AM station coverage at night!
Cincinnati has always been a bit peculiar in the FM reception realm—likely because of your stations’ necessities to address their local terrain issues - The "San Francisco Effect" [with tall towers on the hill that work-out to well-above 500-ft HAAT Class B facilities, thus a consequential ERPreduction below the typical 50kw that benefits the "near field" at the expense of regional coverage, terrain obstruction, and a possible “beam-tilt” to fill-in the valleys]. In my hometown of Connersville [equally-seated between Cincy and Indy], Indianapolis FMs are easy to receive – Cincinnati FMs are much-less so. I can only recall two exceptions... B105 and 93.3 WAKW [which used to inflict havoc on my childhood reception of 93.1 WNAP]. The last time I was “home” in C’ville, I could not listen to most Cincy FMs – I could easily listen to nearly Indy FM. I frequently receive Class A 101.9 WKLR from the west side of Indy INSTEAD of Class B WKRQ... I spent my teenage years addicted to Q-102, and I can rarely get-it in Connersville today! I have this feeling that most Cincy FM CEs "focus" their signals towards "The Senven Hills" rather than the "outback".
Cincinnati has always been a bit peculiar in the FM reception realm—likely because of your stations’ necessities to address their local terrain issues - The "San Francisco Effect" [with tall towers on the hill that work-out to well-above 500-ft HAAT Class B facilities, thus a consequential ERPreduction below the typical 50kw that benefits the "near field" at the expense of regional coverage, terrain obstruction, and a possible “beam-tilt” to fill-in the valleys]. In my hometown of Connersville [equally-seated between Cincy and Indy], Indianapolis FMs are easy to receive – Cincinnati FMs are much-less so. I can only recall two exceptions... B105 and 93.3 WAKW [which used to inflict havoc on my childhood reception of 93.1 WNAP]. The last time I was “home” in C’ville, I could not listen to most Cincy FMs – I could easily listen to nearly Indy FM. I frequently receive Class A 101.9 WKLR from the west side of Indy INSTEAD of Class B WKRQ... I spent my teenage years addicted to Q-102, and I can rarely get-it in Connersville today! I have this feeling that most Cincy FM CEs "focus" their signals towards "The Senven Hills" rather than the "outback".
hipporadio said:
WKRC only can be heard occasionally in the Chicago area at night. During the day the 550 in St. Louis come in.
In the late 70s I used to listen to WKRC after work at midnight in the Celina area. the 1kW aignal was absolutely listenable with some background chatter. WKRC can sometimes be a challenge even in Dayton with other 550s not powering down or changing pattern. KTRS out of St. Louis is a blowtorch, they are very strong north of Lafayette, IN and they were one of the few stations I could get both there and Quincy, IL (they were country KUSA then).
I guess WNDE is the closest Indy comes to full market AM coverage. WFNI excludes all the northern suburbs and I can see why the move of WIBC from the AM to FM made sense.
In Dayton, except for the northern licensed stations most of the Cincy FMs are there, but they aren't blasters. I can remember the slightest bit of tropo would bring many of the Cincy FMs to my location in the Celina area. Not quite the case today.
I guess WNDE is the closest Indy comes to full market AM coverage. WFNI excludes all the northern suburbs and I can see why the move of WIBC from the AM to FM made sense.
In Dayton, except for the northern licensed stations most of the Cincy FMs are there, but they aren't blasters. I can remember the slightest bit of tropo would bring many of the Cincy FMs to my location in the Celina area. Not quite the case today.
gr8oldies said:
I remember hearing WKRC very clearly in St. Marys when it carried Bengals preseason games in the early 90s. I about drove myself nuts trying to pick up the same signal in Columbus, at about an equal distance from Cincinnati. This was before I knew anything about directional patterns.
Re: Cincinnati FMs in the earlier post - they are very listenable going up 71 as far as Jeffersonville before adjacent channels overpower them or they simply fade. Of course, that's also nice, flat terrain from Warren County up to Columbus.
when the local 1530 in Englewood FL was off the air 1530 Cinci boomed right in and steady/ 700 WLW is there evry nite albeit weak. i can get a very weak 1530 Cinci in Englewood by nulling the local 1530. I have received the 1360 Cinci at times in SW Fla. I do remeber getting WLW in eastern IA during the day; don't know if that is due to the signal or ground conductivity. Maybe both.
Much to my dismay I remember WCKY having a killer signal in South Florida as I was trying to pick up WKBW (WWKB now). WLAC 1510 and WCKY 1530 made hearing 1520 difficult.
The WCKY (1530-AM) signal into Florida (and beyond) is well documented over the years. Here are some examples that just involve Florida or just to the south. There are many, many more that involved the United States and other parts of the world.
During the Cuban Missle Crisis in 1962, WCKY was one of the stations in the USA who broadcast programs in Spanish late at night aimed at Cuban citizens. To my knowledge, it was the furtherest north station in this country who took part (others were 50,000-watt outlets in Nashville, New Orleans, etc.).
In the mid-1960's, WCKY aired Xavier University football & basketball games. A letter was received (at either the station or the university) from a group of prisoners who were incarcerated in the Florida State Penitentiary (Tallahassee?) who reported they listened to the game broadcasts. Xavier's sports information office responded by sending broadcast schedules and similar materials to that captive audience.
WCKY also served as the flagship station of the Cincinnati Reds Radio Network from 1964 thru 1968. During a broadcast of a night exhibition game (the Reds trained & played pre-season games in Florida), WCKY received a telephone call from a home not far from the park where that game was taking place to advise they had tuned in to the station to listen to that close-by game.
During the Cuban Missle Crisis in 1962, WCKY was one of the stations in the USA who broadcast programs in Spanish late at night aimed at Cuban citizens. To my knowledge, it was the furtherest north station in this country who took part (others were 50,000-watt outlets in Nashville, New Orleans, etc.).
In the mid-1960's, WCKY aired Xavier University football & basketball games. A letter was received (at either the station or the university) from a group of prisoners who were incarcerated in the Florida State Penitentiary (Tallahassee?) who reported they listened to the game broadcasts. Xavier's sports information office responded by sending broadcast schedules and similar materials to that captive audience.
WCKY also served as the flagship station of the Cincinnati Reds Radio Network from 1964 thru 1968. During a broadcast of a night exhibition game (the Reds trained & played pre-season games in Florida), WCKY received a telephone call from a home not far from the park where that game was taking place to advise they had tuned in to the station to listen to that close-by game.
WCKY has had a huge signal for years on their different frequencies.
Back in the 1930s, when Red Barber was the Reds announcer, during the daytime (back when their transmitter was in Covington), their signal was so strong into Pittsburgh that the Pirates were complaining about the Reds being on that station.
Back in the 1930s, when Red Barber was the Reds announcer, during the daytime (back when their transmitter was in Covington), their signal was so strong into Pittsburgh that the Pirates were complaining about the Reds being on that station.
charlestondxman said:
The 1530 signal into the Chicago area has generally been good at night although sometimes because of the directional pattern there is some late night fading. WLW comes in well day & night.
When I was a kid in the early-mid 1960's, WCKY 1530 had a night time fade spot in New Baltimore,OH and something else would appear in the background there. Unfortunately, my pappy couldn't stop for long in the middle of the intersection where it faded, so I never knew what appeared in it's place. It was more than 1 signal & Sacramento was probably part of the mix, but there wasn't anything that was dominant. But WCKY was totally gone at that location.
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